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Nicolas Jacques (Grandjehan) Grandjehan Bourgeois (abt. 1550 - abt. 1621)

Nicolas Jacques (Nicolas) Grandjehan Bourgeois formerly Grandjehan
Born about in Coutran LaFerte Gauche, Champagne, Francemap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 3 Jun 1602 in Compiègne, Oise, Paroisse St Antoine, Francemap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 71 in Champagne, DOrdogne, Aquitaine, Francemap [uncertain]
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Biography

Research Notes

Most of the information came from merged profiles, preserved until better documentation is found. Little is actually sourced, most from family trees.

The only information that seems correct is that he died before his son Jacques was baptized in 1621. Actual death date unclear. Birth, parents, marriage all uncertain. Might not have been married, even though "spouse" Marie Bourgeois seems to be real and mother of his child if (likely) not married.

Children Marie and Barbe likely not his (need research) (Bourque-573 04:53, 11 May 2019 (UTC))

Additional notes, please read:

The mother on the PPP profile was born after this man was born. She has been removed. Fauconnet-3
The parents were different but not duplicates. There is no credible source for his parents. Parents were born 200 years later, both corrected and removed. (Bourque-573 14:19, 13 September 2019 (UTC))
His birth date was 1570 on one profile and 1580 on the other; birth date was entered as 1575; death dates were the same.
Child Bourg-105 could not have been his child; born 1576. He was removed.

Parents

Father: Nicolas Grandjehan, Mother: Francoise Polmard
Marriage: 1610, Couperans, Marne, France [1]

Birth

Born 1570 Champagne, Dordogne, Aquitaine, France. [2]
Birth: 1570, Couvray, Brie, Champagne, France [1]
Birth: ABT 1580, France

Marriage

Husband: Nicholas Jacques Grand Jehan Bourgeois
Wife: Marguerite Parie Loisel Bourgeois
Marriage (Bet. 1590–1600). Montreuil-Bellay, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France.
Marriage ABT 1596 Montreuil-du-Bellay, Saumurois today Maine-et-Loire, France.
Marriage: Date: 3 Juin 1602 Place: Compiègne, Oise, Paroisse St Antoine, France
Marriage ABT 1604. St-Pierre-de-Montreuil-B (France).
Marriage 1610 Germain, Loire, Centre, France.
Marriage 1620 Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France.

Death

04 JAN 1621 Place: Champagne, Dordogne, Aquitaine, France [2]
04 JAN 1621 Place: Couperans En Brie, Champagne, France
Before Jan 8, 1621 [3]
Buried Champagne-et-Fontaine, Departement de la Dordogne, Aquitaine, France.
4 JAN 1621 Place: Coutran, La Ferte Gaucher, Champagne, France[4]

Nicolas GRANDJEHAN CHILD-CHRISTENING-NAME s son as Nicolas GRANDJEHAN, deceased ID: I587 Name: Nicolas GRANDJEHAN Given Name: Nicolas Surname: Grandjehan Sex: M Birth: in , , , France Death: Y Reference Number: 2080, 2116 Event: 4268, 4276, 4932 Custom ID+ _UID: D436493C3EEED411AFD90050DA8458AFDDC1 Change Date: 21 Sep 2016 at 10:11 Note: !CHILD-CHRISTENING-NAME: Parish of St. Romain, at La Ferte-Gaucher, Dept. of Seine-et-Marne, France. Listed on baptismal record on 8 Jan 1621 as son as Nicolas GRANDJEHAN, deceased. Mother of child Jacques BOURGEOIS was Marguerite BOURGEOIS, and child apparently was raised with mother's surname. Never married? (Reference: E. Rene PERRON, LES AMITIES ACADIENNES, issue #58 (4 qtr. 1991).

!IMMIGRATION: A BOURGEOIS was known to be in the 1632 expedition of settlers arriving at Lahave on the Atlantic Coast on the eve of the Feast of the Assumption and eventually retake Port Royal from the Scots. (Rushton, The Cajuns, p. 308). Since this Nicolas was already deceased by the time of his son Jacques' baptism in 1621, would this BOURGEOIS be a relative of Jacques' mother?

Marriage Marriage 9 Jan 1692 in Gremevillers, Oise, France. Husband Nicholas Grand Jehan Jacques Bourgeois. Wife Anthoinette Langlois.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Source: S5 Author: Ancestry.com Title: OneWorldTree Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Repository: R1 Name: www.ancestry.com Database online. Text: Record for Nicolas Grandjehan Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.), Database online.
  2. 2.0 2.1 Source: S1161517621 Ancestry.com Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015 Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Repository: R1150661019 (unsourced)
  3. Karen Theriot Reader [Nicolas Grandjehan] :Child-Christening-Name: Parish of St. Romain, at La Ferte-Gaucher, Dept. of Seine-et-Marne , France. Listed on baptismal record on 8 Jan 1621 as son of Nicolas GRANDJEHAN, deceased. Mother of child Jacques BOURGEOIS was Marguerite BOURGEOIS, and child apparently was raised with mother's surname. Never married? (Reference: E. Rene PERRON, LES AMITIES ACADIENNES, issue #58 (4 qtr. 1991).
  4. WikiTree profile Bourgeois-140 created through the import of Ryanraymondextended with bosto (2).ged on Dec 22, 2011 by Kevin Ryan.

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Bourgeois-8 and Grandjehan-1 do not represent the same person because: Not the same person
posted by Pat Songe
Bourgeois-114 and Grandjehan-1 appear to represent the same person because: I believe these people, Marguerite Bourgeois and Nicolas Grandjehan are the same as Marguerite Grandjehan and Nicolas Bourgeois, but the family names were interverted. The real people are Marguerite Bourgeois and Nicolas Grandjehan. Marguerite Grandjehan and Nicolas Bourgeois did not exist.

The parents attached to Nicolas Bourgeois are wrong and should be disconnected. Duplicates exist for said parents (I think they originally had a child attached, but I don't remember who).

Note for future research

Bourgeois-1454 Bourgeois-1617 Bourgeois-114 Grandjehan-1

posted on Bourg-297 (merged) by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Darrell, where are you getting this information. So far everyone I've looked at in this family is totally unsourced. One child born before her mother was. This is not a good situation. Would you please work to clear them up?
posted on Bourg-297 (merged) by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Bourgeois-1617 and Grandjehan-1 are not ready to be merged because: there is no source on either profile to determine what would be the correct LNAB, this needs much more research with credible sources, a pedigree resource file is just another name for a family tree
posted by Danielle Liard
Bourgeois-1617 and Grandjehan-1 appear to represent the same person because: The names look to be interchanged , Grandehan is the name of the spouse. See family search on Nicolas Bourgeois and his family.
Bourgeois-564 and Grandjehan-1 appear to represent the same person because: appear to be same person with very similar "facts".
posted by Jacqueline Girouard
Grandjean-23 and Grandjehan-1 appear to represent the same person because: clear duplicate; merge into Grandjehan-1
posted by Jacqueline Girouard
This person , his parents and his wife have life events in widely different locations. This would have been highly unlikely at the time. Could this be elaborated, please?
no evidence Nicolas married Marie-Marguerite (Doucet Dit Laverdure) Doucet-1. Removing her as his spouse. She can be re-added if a source can be found.
posted by Jacqueline Girouard
Where is the evidence that Nicolas's last name was Bourgeois?
posted by Jacqueline Girouard
Re: Tom's note: CHILD-CHRISTENING-NAME: Parish of St. Romain, at La Ferte-Gaucher, Dept. of Seine-et-Marne, France. Listed on baptismal record on 8 Jan 1621 as son as Nicolas GRANDJEHAN, deceased. Mother of child Jacques BOURGEOIS was Marguerite BOURGEOIS, and child apparently was raised with mother's surname. Never married? (Reference: E. Rene PERRON, LES AMITIES ACADIENNES, issue #58 (4 qtr. 1991).

!IMMIGRATION: A BOURGEOIS was known to be in the 1632 expedition of settlers arriving at Lahave on the Atlantic Coast on the eve of the Feast of the Assumption and eventually retake Port Royal from the Scots. (Rushton, The Cajuns, p. 308). Since this Nicolas was already deceased by the time of his son Jacques' baptism in 1621, would this BOURGEOIS be a relative of Jacques' mother?

posted by Jacqueline Girouard
Grandjehan-1 and Bourgeois-298 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate profiles found in merge proposal

Same name, date and place of birth, spouse, child, date and place of death

all are duplicates need merging

posted by [Living Gauvin]

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