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It has been claimed, without sufficient evidence, that Kenelm Winslow was the son of William Winslow and Mary Bucke. He is being detached until credible records can be found.
Kenelm Winslow was born about 1534 based on the fact that he purchased land in 1559.[1]
KENELM WINSLOW Of Kempsey, England. Died 1607 in the parish of St. Andrew, County Worcester, England. In 1559, he purchased of Sir Richard Newport, an estate called "Newport's Place," in Kempsey, County Worcester. He had an older and very considerable estate in the same parish called "Clerkenleap." It was sold by his grandson, Richard Winslow, in 1650. MARRIED Catherine (Katherine). ONE SON: EDWARD WINSLOW (No. 6) He is the only child of whom we have knowledge, though his will indicates there were other children besides Edward. NOTE: It is interesting to note the carelessness about the spelling in those times, even ones own name, as the following examples indicate. In the will of Kenelm Winslow (No. 5), father of this Edward, in the body of his will he wrote his name "Kenelme Wynslowe," and his signature at end is "Kenelm Wynslo." The Parish Clerk at St. Peters, Droitwich, writes the name "Kenelme Wynsloe," sonne of "Edward Wynslowe."
KENELM WINSLOW'S WILL, 1607 - "In the name & feare of God amen he XIIIth daye of April in the yeare of our Lord 1607, I Kenelme Wynslow of the Cittye of Worcester yeom., being of very perfect memory altho sicke in bodye doe make & declare my lst will 7 testament in manner & forme following, vizt:
"ffirst I commend my soule to the eternal God and my body to the earth to be buryed in comely sort of buriall ater my decease,
"Item: I devise & appt. v s. in money to the pore of the psh of St. Andrew parish wherein I dwell to be distributed by my wife or by her appt. And as touching my goods & chattells, I will 7 appoint the custody thereof (my funeral discharged and my debts paide) to Katherine my very loving wife whom I ordaine, constitute and point to be my sole executrix of this my present will, apppointing and wishing her not to alter the purpartie hereof (things over worne excepted) without the consent of my (9576) ealdest sonne whom I require to be a guide & comforter to her, and such of my house-house stuffe as she shall think well of I licenseher to dispose of to such of my children and grandchildren as shall best please her and the same nott to be delivered until after her decease and then the same to be delivered to them as the figt and legacie as well of me to them as of my said wife. These being witnesses present at the publishing hereof. by me:
"Kenelme Winslo John Swayne Edward Tovy Ric. Caldoe, his marke "(Proved at Worcester before Mr. Edward Archbould, surr., sworn by Katherine the relict, 9 Nov. 1607). [This will is at the ofice of the Worcester Record Office, ref. 008.7-92-1607.
Kenelm Winslow was supposedly married twice, neither of their names are known.[1]
Children:
Neither of his two wives have ever been mentioned by name in any credible source.[1]
John C. Hunt first posited that Elizabeth Folliot may have been Kenelm's wife. This was within his hunt to understand the use of the term "cosen" between Winslows and others. He, himself, later "rejected the idea that Kenelm's wife was Elizabeth Foliot."[2] She should be detached.
Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick's article, NEHGR 154:79-108, in 2000 suggests that the simplest solution to Hunt's project (to explain the use of "cosen" between Gov. Edward Winslow and others) is to make Kenelm's wife one of the older daughters of Sir Guy Fulke, not mentioned in Sir Guy's will, because they had already been taken care of (and because the will appears to have been written when he was a bit distraught).[2]
Has anyone else seen this? Appears plausible and would say that the X Greville may be a Katherine or Elizabeth Greville, or even Blanche. Though is speculative, is better than the Bucke guess.
Sir Guy Greville's children are not all known by name and it cannot be assumed that, if not named in his will, they do not exist. Kirkpatrick demonstrates this with contemporary evidences of wills that do not include all children. Secondly, he finds credence for Sir Guy's having 7 sons and 8 daughters in two places: (1) the crypt in which he is buried pictures his offspring as 7 sons and 8 daughters, (2) reference in Bindoff's book The House of Commons 1509-1558 which credits Sir Guy with 7 sons and 8 daughters (though this may be based on the crypt as well). The last point is that the older daughters' marriages may well not be recorded due to their early dates.
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In his 1968 NEHGR article, however, Hunt disavowed his theory that Mary Bucke was Kenelm's and instead suggested that the relationship with the Buckes came through Kenelm marriage to Elizabeth Foliott. If this latter theory of Hunt's is correct, Katherine _____ was Kenelm's second wife.
Kenelm's own ancestry as currently shown seems to be equally dubious; if there is any evidence for his parentage, please share it on that G2G thread.