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Virginia Jane (Shumate) Carper (1805 - 1891)

Virginia Jane (Jane) "Jennie" Carper formerly Shumate
Born in Monroe, Monroe, Virginia, United Statesmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 16 Sep 1824 (to 9 Feb 1880) in Monroe, Virginia, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 86 in Grandview, Raleigh, West Virginia, United Statesmap
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Contents

Biography


This portion of the biography is from her Find A Grave Memorial:
Jane's parents are Hardin Shumate and Elizabeth Leach, both from Virginia. Her known siblings are Edmund, Susan Moran, George Washington, Cynthia, Hester, Kendley, William, Elizabeth, Hardin and Martha S Shumate.

She married Joseph Carper, September 4, 1824 in Peterstown, Monroe County, Virginia. Their known children are Hester Elizabeth (Hattie), Andrew Jackson, George Washington (Wash), William Decatur, Susan Jane, Mary Ann, Isaac Perry, Hardin Houston, Virginia C (Jennie), Samuel Hamilton Walter, Isabella R (Belle) and Joseph Emery Carper.

In 1880 Jane was widowed and living with her son Joseph in Shady Springs.


Name

Daughter age (under 10) of [Shumate-302|Hardin Shumate]].[1]
Daughter age (10-15) of [Shumate-302|Hardin Shumate]].[2]
Wife age (20 - 29) of Joseph Carper.[3]
Jane Shumate.[4][5][6]
Jane Carper.[7][8][9][10]
Name used Unknown - record from GEDCOM not found.[11]
  • Virginia Jane Shumate Carper.[12]

Birth

Most of the following dates are estimated:

1800-1810: The 1810 census for her father listed one minor female in the 1-10 age group.[1]
1805-1810: The 1820 census for her father listed the oldest minor female in the 10-15 age group.[2]
1800-1809 Her husband's 1830 census lists one adult female in 20-29 age group.[3]
1801.[7]
1805 in Monroe County, West Virginia: based upon death at 86 in Dec 1891 - birth would be during 1805.[10]
1806 in Virginia.[8]
1807-1808 in Virginia.[9]
1808 SAR membership 61208 application in Feb 1944.[6]
17 Dec 1805: FindAGrave Memorial 17989796.[13]
NOTE: FindAGrave Indexes have different birth dates and both list the WRONG birth location: Wikipedia states that Giles County, Virginia wasn't established until 1806. Correct location was Monroe County, West Virginia.
17 Dec 1805: USFindAGraveIndex (omits maiden name).
17 Dec 1809: WVFindAGraveIndex.[12]
1809 in Rich Creek, VA. Note: The location for marriage of parents and births of younger siblings was Monroe County, West Virginia. [11]

Parents and Siblings

Includes estimated birth/death dates from her FindAGrave Memorial 17989796.[13] Fuller-5853 15:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hardin Shumate (1782–1874)* and Elizabeth Leach (1789–1873)* married 6 Jun 1806 in Monroe County, Virginia. Their children included:
Virginia Jane Shumate Carper (1805 - 1891)
Edmond Shumate (1807–1852)*
Susan Shumate Martin (1811 - 1848)
Cynthia M. Shumate Dunn (1815 - 1898)*
Hester Ann Shumate Martin (1818–1883)*
Kenley Shumate (1820 - 1915)*
Daniel Shumate (1822–1902)*
William H Shumate (1824–1888)*
Elizabeth Shumate (1825 - 1833)*
Hardin Shumate (1828–1865)*

Marriage

Joseph Carper and Jennie Carper on 4 Sep 1824 in Monroe, Virginia.[4][5][11]

Children

Includes ages recorded in Census records NOTE: * denotes estimated birth/death dates from her FindAGrave Memorial 17989796.[13] Fuller-5853 15:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hester Elizabeth Carper Pack (1825 - 1883)*: Eliza 18 in 1850;
Andrew Jackson Carper (1827 - 1909)*: Andrew 20 in 1850;
George Washington Carper (1831 - 1910)*:
William Decatur Carper (1833 - 1925)*: WIlliam D 15 in 1850; his son, John H 16, in 1870
James P Carper:
Susan Jane Carper WIlliams (1835 - 1914)*: Susan 13 in 1850;
Mary Ann Carper Smith (1837 - 1886)*: Mary 9 in 1850; Mary A 22 in 1860
Isaac Perry Carper (1839 - 1909)*: Isaac 7 in 1850; Isaac P 20 in 1860
Hardin Houston Carper (1842 - 1871)*: Harden 4 in 1850; Harding H 18 in 1860; Warden M 28 with wife, Malinda (Sweeney) 22, and son, Andrew L 3 in 1870.
Virginia C Carper: Virginia C 15 in 1860
Samuel Hamilton Walker Carper: Samuel 16 in 1850; Samuel H W Carper 12 in 1860
Isabella B Carper (1851 - 1939)*: Isabella R 9 in 1860
Warden M Carper: Warden M 28 in 1870 uncertain child since he wasn't listed in census for 1850 and 1860. NOTE: After a bit of research, I determined that the 2 people after Warden M on the 1870 US Census were the wife and son of Hardin aka Harden who was the same age as Warden whose profile has been updated and merged with Hardin. note by Fuller-5853 19:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC).
Joseph Emery Carper (1853 - 1935)*: Joseph 8 in 1860; Joseph 17 in 1870

Residence

As implied daughter of HOH, Hardin Shumate:

1809 in Rich Creek, VA.[11]
1810 in Monroe, Monroe, Virginia, United States.[1]
1820 in Pearisburg, Giles, Virginia, United States.[2]

As implied wife to HOH, Joseph Carper:

1850 in District 59, Raleigh, Virginia, USA: estimated birth 1797 age 49 (implied wife to HOH, Joseph and eight others aged 4-20.[7]
1860 in Scotts Ridge, Raleigh, Virginia, USA: estimated birth 1806 in Virginia age 54 (implied wife to HOH, Joseph and seven others aged 8-22.[8]
1870 in Shady Spring, Raleigh, West Virginia, United States: estimated birth 1807-1808 in Virginia age 62 (implied wife to HOH, Joseph and six others aged 3-65: 1 sibling, another sibling with his wife and son, Rachel 65 (unknown relationship) and son of a third sibling.NOTE: The only Rachel I could locate in the family was the sister of Jennie's father whose unsourced profile has her birth in 1799 making her 71 in 1870. note by Fuller-5853 00:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[9]

Death

Unknown.[11]
1891.[6]
Dec 1891 in Raleigh Co., West Virginia.[10]
18 December 1891 in Grandview, Raleigh, West Virginia, United States.[12]

Burial

Grandview, Raleigh County, West Virginia, USA.[10][12]

Research Notes

Where are their two oldest children?

Hester Elizabeth born 1925 and Andrew Jackson born 1827 were not included in the household count for the 1830 US Census.[3]

? 1870 in Marsh Fork, Raleigh, West Virginia. Does this record belong on the profile?

Could locate no CARPERs in this location but there were SHUMATEs: John 55, Sarah 52, Savina 26, Lucindy 23 and Eliza A 19. All born in Virgina.

Sources that could not be located:

#S-1073023559 West 1809 Birth in Rich Creek, VA citing Idaho, Select Deaths and Burials, 1907-1965 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.[11]
IdDeaths citing Idaho, Select Deaths and Burials, 1907-1965 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. [14]

Estimated Birth Date

Virginia Jane Carper was born between 1800 and 1810. Records which record birth information did not one agree on the date of birth. See Birth above for more details. There were only two exact dates listed in the sources: 17 Dec 1805 (FindAGrave Memorial and US FindAGrave Index) AND 17 Dec 1809 (WV FindAGrave Index) Which is Correct?)

Option 1: 17 Dec 1805:
Option 2: 17 Dec 1809:
  • Marriage to [Carper-367|Joseph Carper]] was on 4 Sep 1824 in Monroe County, Virginia. Jane would have been about fourteen when she married.

Conclusion:: Option 1 is most likely:

  • Since Jane would have been too young when she married had she been born in 1809, then Jane was born during 1805.
  • Jane was born '17 Dec 1805 in Monroe County, West Virginia.

Which Location to Use?

History note: Sources cited below are from Wikipedia Articles:

Monroe County, West Virginia which was created in 1799. To the south is:
Giles County, Virginia which was established in 1806 from parts of four counties, one of which was Monroe County, West Virginia.

If family remained in same place these locations would apply

From 1799 to 1806 use Monroe County, West Virginia.
After 1806: Giles County, Virginia, United States.
However 1810 in Monroe, Monroe, Virginia, United States..[1]
Therefore this family may not have been in the area that was included in the newly established Giles County.
By 1820 The family was enumerated in Pearisburg, Giles County, Virginia, United States.[2]

Therefore use: the locations from US Census in Blue text above.

Indexed Census Records

For more complete analysis, the following indexed census records are included in Sources for Family of Joseph and Jane Shumate CARPER:
United States Census, 1860 for the Head of Household, Joseph Carper.
United States Census, 1870 for the Head of Household, Joseph Carper.
Links to Source Summary for Wife of HOH: Jane Carper

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1810USCensus in Monroe, Monroe, Virginia; Roll: 70; Page: 568; Image: 00015; Family History Library Film: 0181430. Ancestry Record 7613 #696596 Index was for household of four: 2 males including HOH (26-44) her father, Hardin, was 27; (under 10) her brother, Edmon was 3; and 2 females including wife of HOH (16-25) her mother, Elizabeth Leach, was 21 and (under 10] Jennie was 5. Also on FamilySearch: Census record XH28-MZW and Image of Father's 1810 US Census
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 1820USCensus in Pearisburg, Giles, Virginia; Page: 121; NARA Roll: M33_130; Image: 233 Ancestry Record 7734 #19101 Index was for household of nine: 4 males including HOH (26-44) her father, [Shumate-302|Hardin]], was 37; (2 under 10) her brothers, George Washington and, possibly, William were 7 and maybe under 10, (10-15) her brother, Edmon, was 13; and 5 females including wife of HOH (26-44) her mother, Elizabeth Leach, was 31, (10-15) Jennie was 15 and (3 under 10] her sisters, Susan Morgan, Cynthia M, and Hester Ann were 9, 5 and 3. Also on FamilySearch: Census record XHLC-74X and Image of Father's 1820 US Census.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 1830USCensus in Giles, Virginia; Series: M19; Roll: 190; Page: 216; Family History Library Film: 0029669; HOF, Joseph Carper, age between 30-39 (estimated birth between 1791 and 1800), his wife age between 20-29 (estimated birth between 1800 and 1810). Ancestry Record 8058 #835157 also on FamilySearch: Census record XH54-SVH and Image of Census.
  4. 4.0 4.1 WVMarr Ancestry Record 2538 #10006553
  5. 5.0 5.1 VaMarr Ancestry Record 3723 #1097595
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 SARMemApps Volume: 307; Ancestry Record SARMemberApps #1260386
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 1850USCensus in District 59, Raleigh, Virginia; Roll: M432_972; Page: 8A; Image: 21 Family 100 Lines 18-27 enumerated on 3 Aug 1850. Jane, implied wife of HOH, Joseph Carper: Jane b 1801. Ancestry Record 8054 #15456319 also on FamilySearch: Census record M8D2-5KR and Image of Census
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 1860USCensus in Scotts Ridge, Raleigh, Virginia; Roll: M653_1373; Page: 1004; Image: 598; Family 74 Lines 17-25 enumerated on 15 Jun 1860. HOH, Joseph Carper: Jane Carper b 1806. Family History Library Film: 805373. Ancestry Record 7667 #34382586 also on FamilySearch: Census record M41Y-GQW citing p. 12, family 74, NARA microfilm publication M653 Roll 1373 and Image of Census
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 1870USCensus in Shady Spring, Raleigh, West Virginia; Roll: M593_1698; Page: 377B; Image: 270; Family 47; Lines 5-12; enumerated on 9 Aug 1870. Jane as implied wife of HOH, Joseph Carper: b 1807-1808 in West Virginia. Ancestry Record 7163 #5602122 also on FamilySearch: Census record MZ41-MPX citing p. 8, family 47, NARA microfilm publication M593, Roll 1698; FHL microfilm 553,197 and Image of Census Family History Library Film: 553197.
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 WVDeaths Ancestry Record 2568 #1525260.
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5 West 1809 Birth in Rich Creek, V; .Name used Unknown - record from GEDCOM not found. Birth location not likely: See Place of birth in Estimated Birth Date.
  12. 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 USFindAGraveIndex (17 Dec 1805-18 Dec 1891) Ancestry Record 60525 #90674339 Omits maiden name; and WVFindAGraveIndex (17 Dec 1809-18 Dec 1891) Ancestry Record 70630 #134754 both citing Virginia Jane Shumate Carper on FindAGrave.
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 Find A Grave: Memorial #17989796 has marker and bio. Index also on FamilySearch.
  14. IdDeaths Could not locate source. No other info shows anything with Idaho.

See also:

1810USCensus Repository: Ancestry's website 1810 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

1820USCensus Repository: Ancestry's website 1820 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

1830USCensus Repository: Ancestry's website 1830 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

1850USCensus Repository: Ancestry's website 1850 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

1860USCensus Repository: Ancestry's website 1860 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

1870USCensus Repository: Ancestry's website 1870 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

WVFindAGraveIndex Repository: Ancestry's website Web: West Virginia, Find A Grave Index, 1780-2012 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

USFindAGraveIndex Repository: Ancestry's website U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

IdDeaths Repository: Ancestry's website Idaho, Select Deaths and Burials, 1907-1965 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc

SARMemApps Repository: Ancestry's website U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

WV Marriage Register

WV Ministers Marriage Register Married: 16 SEP 1824 in Peterstown, Monroe, Virginia to Virginia Jane Shumate.

VaMarr Repository: Ancestry's website Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850 Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999.Original data - Dodd, Jordan R., et al.. Early American Marriages: Virginia to 1850. Bountiful, UT, USA: Precision Indexing Publishers.Original data: Dodd, Jordan R., et al.. Early Amer Note:

West Repository: Ancestry's website Family Data Collection - Individual Records Edmund West, comp. Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc.

WVDeaths Repository: Ancestry's website West Virginia, Deaths Index, 1853-1973 Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.Original data - "West Virginia Deaths, 1853–1970." Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. From originals housed in county courthouses throughout West Virginia. "Death Records.".O Note:

Source: WVMarr Repository: Ancestry's website West Virginia, Marriages Index, 1785-1971

Acknowledgements

Shumate-301 was created by Walter Pack Sr on 13 Feb 2016 and includes data from merge(s):

  • Shumate-539 was created by Pat Credit on 23 Feb 2019 when she changed the LNAB on Carper-390 which was created by Living Powers through the import of Powers, Moter.ged on 20 Jun 2016.




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Andrea,

Why is "Catherine E Shumate (1775 - 1873)*" listed as a sibling? Her birth is before her parents were born.

Pat

posted by Pat (Fuller) Credit
Wikipedia states that Giles County, Virginia wasn't established until 1806. Correct location was Monroe County, West Virginia.
posted by Pat (Fuller) Credit
This is the correct birthdate 1805 according to our West Virginia Death Records for she was 86 years old when she passed on in 1891. West Virginia Department of Arts, Culture and History WV Death Register

Name: Jane/Carper Sex: Female Death Date: Dec 1891 Death Place: Raleigh Co., West Virginia Age at Death: 86y Birth Place: Monroe Co., West Virginia Marital Status: M Spouse: Joseph/Carper Occupation: Housekeeper Mother: Elizabeth/Leach Father: Harden/Shumate

posted by Andrea (Stawski) Pack
This is the correct birthdate 1805 according to our West Virginia Death Records for she was 86 years old when she passed on in 1891. West Virginia Department of Arts, Culture and History WV Death Register

Name: Jane/Carper Sex: Female Death Date: Dec 1891 Death Place: Raleigh Co., West Virginia Age at Death: 86y Birth Place: Monroe Co., West Virginia Marital Status: M Spouse: Joseph/Carper Occupation: Housekeeper Mother: Elizabeth/Leach Father: Harden/Shumate

posted by Andrea (Stawski) Pack
Name: Jane/Carper

Sex: Female Death Date: Dec 1891 Death Place: Raleigh Co., West Virginia Age at Death: 86y Birth Place: Monroe Co., West Virginia Marital Status: M Spouse: Joseph/Carper Occupation: Housekeeper Mother: Elizabeth/Leach Father: Harden/Shumate

posted by Andrea (Stawski) Pack
Shumate-569 Has a different birth date. See Estimated Birth Date for the reason.

Once we resolve this issue the two files can be merged.

posted by Pat (Fuller) Credit
Profile is a duplicate of Shumate-301 with same dates and burial information and it looks like all the other info matches
posted by Darren Kellett
PM has completed most of the updates before merge process begins. updated Mar 5

From Feb 23: PM still updating profile. Please leave a comment instead of editing profile at this time.

posted by Pat (Fuller) Credit
Carper is her married name. Profiles should use maiden names. Her LNAB should be changed to her maiden name Shumate.

This profile is a duplicate of Virginia Jane (Shumate) Carper (1805 - 1891) and then the two profiles should be merged.

posted by Pat (Fuller) Credit
Carper-390 and Shumate-301 do not represent the same person because: Carper is not the surname and the PM has not been on since 2017
posted by Andrea (Stawski) Pack

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