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Jesse (Desforetz) De Forest (1576 - 1624)

Jesse De Forest formerly Desforetz aka Des foretz, Des forests, du Forest, de Forest, de Forrest
Born in Avesnes, Comté de Hainaut, Pays-Bas espagnolsmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 23 Sep 1601 in Sedan, Ardennes, Francemap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 48 in Oyopok River, Brazilian Guiana, South Americamap
Profile last modified | Created 26 Sep 2016
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Jesse (Desforetz) De Forest was a Huguenot emigrant.
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Biography

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Jesse (Desforetz) De Forest is Notable.

Jesse de Forest was the driving force behind the 1621 Round Robin petition, whose signers promised "to go into Virginia and there to live in the same condition as others of His Majesty's subjects, but in a town of incorporation by themselves" See also "The de Forest Family" page on WikiTree.

Jessé de(s) Forest(s) (1576 – October 22, 1624) was the leader of a group of Walloon Huguenots who fled Europe due to religious persecutions. Jessé de Forest emigrated to the New World, where he planned to found New-Belgium.

Jesse's father had left Avesnes for Sedan at some time during the three years prior to 1601, so that Jesse had had opportunity in the latter place to meet and to be attracted by young Marie du Cloux. She was the daughter of Nicaise du Cloux, a fellow merchant of Jesse's father. The members of the du Cloux family were people of good position in Sedan merchants, barristers and surgeons .[1]

When Jesse's father went to Holland in 1602 he must have left his mercantile business in Sedan to Jesse for in that year we first find the latter spoken of as merchant undoubtedly a merchant in woolen cloth. Up through 1606 Jesse appears in the Sedan records as a merchant (probably in woolen cloth) residing at Sedan. In 1607 he is still a merchant, but resident at Montcornet in Thierache, an eastern canton of Picardy. In 1608 he was there still but had changed his work to merchant-dyer. It is clear that while living at Montcornet, he was in partnership with David de Lambremont, husband of Magdeleine du Cloux, a sister of Marie. [2]

The first mention which we find of Jesse de(s) Forest(s) tells of his marriage at Sedan on 23 September 1601 to Marie du Cloux.[3][4] The earliest entry that concerns the de Forests translates as follows:

1601: Sunday, 23d day of said month [September] at the Catechism the said Sieur du Tilloy blessed the marriage of Jesse des forests, son of Jean des forests, merchant, residing in this city, with Marie du Cloux, daughter of Nicaise du Cloux merchant residing in this city.

Sieur du Tilloy was evidently the Protestant minister who officiated for the event.

The first child, baby Marie, was born in 1602 [5] , then four children of Jesse and Marie baptized between 1604 and 1609
In the following year appears a record which shows that Jesse himself had become a merchant of Sedan.

1602: Sunday, 7th day of said month [July] on which day was celebrated the Lord's Supper, Monsieur du Tilloy, having made the evening exhortation, baptized Marie, daughter of Jesse des forests merchant residing in this city, and of Marie du Cloux his wife.Sponsors: Estienne du Cloux and Marie Aubertin.

Then follow the baptisms of four other children:

  1. Jean (later called Jan or Jehan), July 22nd, 1604, witnessed by Jean le Vasseur and Magdeleine du Cloux;[6]
  2. Henry (known to us as Hendrick), March 7th, 1606, witnessed by Henry de Lambremont, merchant, and his wife Rachel Aubertin;[7]
  3. Elizabeth, September 1st, 1607, witnessed by Abraham le Groa, goldsmith, and his wife Elizabeth Aubertin; [8]
  4. David, December 16 th, 1608 witnessed by David de Lambremont, merchant-dyer at Montcornet, and Marie de Lambremont, daughter of Henry.[9]

After 1608 there was a gap of eight years in the church registers of Sedan. Jesse de Forest appears in the Walloon registers of Leyden in 1615. His daughter Rachel, mother of one of the notable families of New York, was born in 1609 while Hendrick Hudson was sounding his way up the “great north river,” and four years earlier than Christaensen put up his block-house on Manhattan Island. Rachel married Jean Mousnier la Montagne in 1626 at age seventeen, which was fairly young for a bride even in those days.

It is also noteworthy that his children were always christened after a godfather or a godmother, a fact which accounts for the disappearance of the baptismal names then current among the de Forests of Avesnes.

Jesse and Marie's children would be later connected to America
Several of these names connect the family with its later existence in America.
Henry de Forest was one of the founders of Harlem, on the island of Manhattan, and died there in 1637.
Jean, sometimes recorded as Johannes, had a small claim against the estate of Henry, though it does not appear certain that he ever crossed the ocean.
David visited New Amsterdam in 1659, and had a son baptized there, but in 1665 had returned to Holland and was guardian to Willem and Rachel de la Montagne grandchildren of his sister Rachel.

Jesse fell sick on October 13, 1624, nine months after the "Pigeon's" departure, from a sunstroke, while exploring. He recovered...until three days later when he died of a second sunstroke.[10]
Listed as an ancestor of John W. De Forest in the "American Ancestry" reference volumes by Thomas Patrick Hughes, 1838-1911, published by Joel Munsell's Sons of Albany, New York.[11]

Name

Name: Jesse /De Forest/[12]

Birth

Birth: Date: 22 Oct 1576 Place: Avesnes, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France[13]

Marriage

Jesse des Forests married at Sedan on 23 September 1601 to Marie du Cloux.[3]

Children

  1. Marie, was born in Jul 7, 1602
  2. Jean (later called Jan or Jehan), July 22nd, 1604, witnessed by Jean le Vasseur and Magdeleine du Cloux;
  3. Henry (known to us as Hendrick), March 7th, 1606, witnessed by Henry de Lambremont, merchant, and his wife Rachel Aubertin;
  4. Elizabeth, November 1st, 1607, witnessed by Abraham le Groa, goldsmith, and his wife Elizabeth Aubertin;
  5. David, December 11th, 1608 witnessed by David de Lambremont, merchant-dyer at Montcornet, and Marie de Lambremont, daughter of Henry
  6. Jesse, was baptized on March 1, 1615 at the Walloon Church of Leiden, Zuid Holland. The baptism was witnesses by: Melchior du Forest, Jan Vekers Jr., Agnes de la Grange and Esther de la Grange . [14]

Death

Death: Date: 22 Oct 1624 Place: Cyopuk River, French Guiana, South America
Died 1624 Age: 47-48.

Sources

  1. The du Cloux family of Sedan
    The du Cloux were people of consideration at Sedan. Several of them were merchants. Others were barristers, notaries or surgeons. One Jean du Cloux was bailli of the city previous to 1596.
  2. https://history.wisc.edu/people/sommerville-johann/ This link replaces a prior "broken link" to the Department of History, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Emeritus Professor Sommerville, History 351, 2008.
  3. 3.0 3.1 "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11707-58826-84?cc=1582585 : 8 August 2015), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Mariages, 1573-1608 (Ms 664/1) > image 204 of 285; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France).
  4. Jesse's name first appears in the registers of the old Huguenot church of Sedan, sequestrated in 1669 by Louis XIV and later recovered.
  5. "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (: 8 August 2015 Baptism record child Marie), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Baptêmes, 1598-1607 (Ms 663/3) > image 150 of 374; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France).
  6. "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (: 8 August 2015 Baptism child Jean), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Baptêmes, 1598-1607 (Ms 663/3) > image 228 of 374; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France).
  7. "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (: 8 August 2015 Baptism child Henry), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Baptêmes, 1598-1607 (Ms 663/3) > image 294 of 374; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France).
  8. "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (: 8 August 2015 Baptism child Elizabeth), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Baptêmes, 1598-1607 (Ms 663/3) > image 366 of 374; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France)
  9. "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (: 8 August 2015 Baptism child David), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Baptêmes, 1608 > image 46 of 48; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France).
  10. Vacherie, St. James Parish, Louisiana History and Genealogy. Elton J. Oubre, death p 745
  11. American Ancestry : giving name and descent, in the male line, of Americans whose ancestors settled in the United States previous to the Declaration of Independence, A. D. 1776 - Hughes & Munsell - Published 1892 - Volume 3.pdf page 185]
  12. Source: #S-550408936: Page: Source number: 192.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JLM. Note: Ancestry.comText: Birth date: 1575Birth place: Marriage date: 1601Marriage place: APID: 7836::323935
  13. Source: #S-550408936: Page: Source number: 192.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JLM.Note: Ancestry.com Text: Birth date: 1575Birth place: Marriage date: 1601Marriage place: APID: 7836::323935
  14. Erfgoed Leiden en omstreken Dopen Waalse Kerk, Leiden, Zuid Holland, Netherlands, Archiefnr: 1004, Inventarisnummer: 270
  • S106 Ancestral File 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
  • #S-923559106 Ancestry.com Family Trees. 1147854854




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I removed the Netherlands Project as a profile manager because I see no evidence that he was Dutch or lived in the Netherlands.
posted by Ellen Smith
The following book is a good reference for the life of Jesse de Forest in the Netherlands

https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Walloon_Family_in_America.html?id=JWlGAAAAMAAJ#v=onepage&q=A%20Walloon%20family%20in%20America%3A%20Lockwood%20de%20Forest%20and%20his%20forbears%20...%2C%20Volume%201%20By%20Emily%20Johnston%20De%20Forest&f=false

He was a member of the Dyers Guild in Leyden where he had four children baptized. He submitted petitions at the Hague. He served in the Military under Maurice, Prince of Orange. He also had a history with the Dutch West India Compny that places him in Netherlands.

posted by Paul Lee
Thanks for pointing that out, Paul. That book is mentioned in this profile, but this profile had only a hint about his time in Leyden (that is, it lists one baptism recorded there).

A further, unstated, motivation for my change was the requirement that no more than two project accounts can be profile managers on a profile. I think Huguenot is the most important project to be associated with this profile, with Netherlands and New Netherland as additional interested projects. Because the Netherlands project has removed itself from a number of early profiles over the last year or two, I guessed that they might no longer be interested in this profile (or at least not as interested as they were back in 2018).

posted by Ellen Smith
Hi Ellen, it's good to learn more about the process for associating projects with profiles.

Jesse de Forest was a Walloon. His focus was to organize a " New Belgium" colony as a sanctuary for Wallons seeking relief from the oppression that drove them out of Belgium. Although he lived in Sedan, France among the Huguenots, the Petition for Feedom ( signed in the round to protect against persecutors identifying the organizer) that he led was for the creation of a colony where the Walloon families live in a cohesive community and speak their Waloonian language. Jesse presented this petition to the British Ambassador to the Hague. The British would not allow the Walloons to live together or speak their native tongue, so Jesse rejected the offer. However, the Netherlands granted the colony, and this became New Netherlands shortly after the approval. Jesse died on an assignment for the Dutch West India Company, so he did not make it to New Amsterdam, but his children did, where the were leading citizens. In this way, Jesse DeForest bears a huge role in the the Netherlands colonizing America, and the great influence that New York has in world today. Without Jesse's great drive, France would almost certainly have claimed Manhattan and the Hudson as their own, but the process that the "Petititioner for Freedom", Jesse DeForest set in motion ended up prevailing, enabling the crucial role of the Netherlands in American colonial history.

posted by Paul Lee
Hi Bea, yes I am very interested in helping manage the Jesse de Forest biography development. As an organizer of the Walloon Settlers he had one of the most consequential influences on the founding of New Netherlands....
posted by Paul Lee
Hi all,

I tried to make something of the profile, it was very hard to read because of all the info that was added, so I tried to shorten it bit and added all info that was added here to a free space page now, the freespace page link is added to the info at the top of Jesse's profile. Just added it all there now, so if anyone would like to try and organize the free space page, maybe it could be used for the whole de Forest family ? If you like I can add all of you interested as manager or to the trusted lof the freepace of course. Added source for the marriage as well, they did marry in Sedan .:) LNAB now is according the French convention and as it was written in the marriage record.

Greets, Bea

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Hester (Esther) de la Grange wasn't his wife, she was married to his brother Gerard. So I'll connect her to the correct husband
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
marriage alternatives - Husband of Marie (Du Cloux) Forest:

married September 21, 1601 in Avesnes,Nord,France

married September 23, 1601 in Sedan, Meuse, France, Hugenot Ch.

posted by Steven Mix

Rejected matches › Jessé du Forest (1615-bef.1636)

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