Mike Claunch

I'd like to say that Mary Walthall (husband James Edward Claunch) and I have been discussing these branches for a year or two now.

Mary reminded me today to come back and contact Mike G Claunch. I don't really know what else to do other than to ask Mike G to get a Y-DNA test, because without that we don't have evidence pro or con about the Claunch bothers in the 1750-1760 timeframe.

What we do have is the descendants of the (8?) children of Jeremiah and Jane who moved over the Cumberland pass around 1800 and settled in eastern Kentucky. Some of their descendants moved down the mid-plain of TN.

John Franklin Claunch seems to have gone all the way down the west side of the Cumberland plateau to St Clair County Alabama.

Additional info about Jeremiah Claunch - 1752 and Jane McGuire:

I have 75 autosomal tests from this couple who are not from the Clounch branch. if we counted the Clounch tests it would be 121 samples. (as I recall).

NONE of these are descended from the German immigrant Hieronymus Claunch. NONE. Thats perhaps a bold statement but if you want to call it wrong then pony up a Y-DNA test *and* show a paper trail to John Franklin Claunch - 1760 *and* show a R-M269 haplotype. That would prove me wrong. It would also give us another mystery to solve. ;)

Thank y'all, I look forward to hearing from all the new Y-DNA tester's. See y'all on ftdna.com.

We have enough Y-DNA samples now that we know John Franklin Claunch was the HALF BROTHER of Jeremiah Claunch who married Jane McGuire and bought the 60 acre farm in Mecklenburg County Virginia in 1783.

Their father seems to be the Jeremiah Claunch born in 1733/34 . But descendants of John Franklin have different Y-DNA than descendants of Jeremiah-1752 (married jane McGuire).

So the Claunches are related via the MOTHER [alleged to be Sophia Erwin - please show some evidence that is true]. Jeremiah-1752 was from a BRITISH/IRISH/SCOT father and John Franklin was from a GERMAN father.

My branch [the jeremiah-1752 m Jane McGuire branch] is from the Scots. And everybody in my branch is Scottish.

WHAT WOULD HELP CONFIRM/DENY THIS? If Mike G Claunch or male descendants of his or of his father (if any) were to get a Y-37 test at ftdna.com and join the Glantz project at ftdna.com.

You could then compare that Y-DNA with the two other known samples. one of those descends from the immigrant boy that came with Hieronymus and his first wife.

That Y-DNA haplotye is J-M172.

The Scottish Y-dna haplotype is R-M269. (and we have a Y-700 test too).

WHAT DOES NOT HELP CONFIRM/DENY Claunch lineage? Autosomal DNA tests.

Hello David it looks like we are related via the Turner line, I've started a Gedmatch family DNA Project. Project Name: # All About Our Family Connection I would love it if you and other family member could join this project so we can share family information, documents, photos and etc. Please feel free to contact me for more information.

Your cousin David Anthony Taylor [email address removed]

Looking at the tree of Glantz-26, then his alleged son Claunch-26, it looks like alleged grandson Claunch-66 is my 5th GGF.

I have so far seen no records that indicate births or marriages connecting these people. i suspect it has been constructed as a narrative. That is fine, but it is not evidence. Therefore I am writing a book where I can show evidence, primary and secondary sources, as i find them. Conclusions, ie, narrative, are shown separately from sources. The sources must come first.

Y-dna is absolutely critical. If we can find any paternal descendants we need to compare Y-dna. I have Y-111. I also have 23andme dna and ancestry dna.

Mike, please be aware I have not done due diligence on the Claunch people who moved to Kentucky because I am researching middle Virginia right now. i will eventually get to them. if you have ancestry DNA you might match me. Just so you know I DNA match Serricuna, I see her on Glantz-26.

Mike, The father of John G Claunch of Mercer County Kentucky was Matthew Claunch who was also William's brother. So we share the Jeremiah Claunch who bought the 60 acres in 1783.

I descend from the Jeremiah Claunch who bought 60 acres in Mecklenburg County Virginia in 1783. He is my 5th great grandfather. His son William is my 4th GGF. William married Betsy Alvis in 1793, had a first son David J Claunch in 1797 (my 3rd GGF), and in 1798 Betsy died, so William married Rebecca Bolton and moved to Mercer county Kentucky. I DNA match 17 of Betsy Alvis relatives. i dna match many of William and Rebecca's descendants. William had brothers Dennis and Jacob and I DNA match many of their descendants. I DNA match descendants of John Franklin Claunch, son of a Jeremiah Claunch (relationship unknown) who lived in western Virginia during the revolutionary war. David J - 1797 moved to Alabama and after 1865 changed his name to Clounch. He had sons William Eldridge Clounch, David Jefferson Clounch 2nd, Leff Clounch (my middle name is Leff). Wliiam Eldridge is in 2nd GGF, his son Albert is my 1st GGF, his son William Wilkerson is my GF, and my dad was Louis Leff Clounch.

As a direct paternal descendant of the Klotz/Glantz/Claunch family I took a Y-dna test. On ftdna I Y-37 match descendants of a Charles Claunch and a James Claunch. On Y-111 i have many markers near (1 or 2 mutations showing in light pink) a Glantz who descends from another Glantz who lived in Pennsylvania and has a common ancestor in the Klotz family in Germany (probably a cousin of Hieronymus Glantz the immigrant).

I have not been able to historicly connect (with records) the Jeremiah Claunch in 1783 with the Claunch family who owned a farm 10 miles north from 1744 to 1758. That family consisted of Jeremiah the immigrant , his Mack second wife, George Mack (her father), John Michael Claunch the immigrant boy, and his sister who married John Hagler.

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your contributions to our tree.

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Thank you!

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