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Susan Munson (abt. 1609)

Susan Munson
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Susan Munson migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Great Migration (Series 2), by R. C. Anderson, vol. 5, p. 200)
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Disputed Origins

While FamilySearch.org gives the birth information for a Susan Munson, whose parents were John Munson and his wife Elizabethe Munson,[1]there is no indication that the birth was for this Susan who migrated to New England in 1634. Therefore the the *parents* are being detached with notes on their profiles. If, in the future, new evidence comes to light, they may certainly be reattached after discussion with the Puritan Great Migration project through the comment section on this profile.

There is no proof that she was sister or wife of the immigrant Thomas Munson.

Biography

Susan Munson was born probably in England in 1609. She migrated on the Elizabeth of Ispwich. She was enrolled at London, 30 April 1634, aged 25, bound for the Massachusetts Bay Colony, as "with John Firmin." [2][3]

Robert Charles Anderson in his Great Migration Series, states that no records have been found for this passenger in New England.[4] Savage in his Genealogical Dictionary inaccuratey suggests that Susan was perhaps the wife of Thomas Munson of New Haven.[5] However, Thomas' only known wife was named Joanna.[4][6]

Sources

  1. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J33R-D9W : 22 March 2020), Suzan Munson, 1604.
  2. Charles E. Banks, 1984, Planters of the Commonwealth, Genealogical Publishing Company.
  3. Hotten, John Camden (editor). The Original Lists of Persons of Quality: Emigrants, Religious Exiles, Political Rebels, Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years, Apprentices, Children Stolen, Maidens Pressed, and Others, who Went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700. (London: John Camden Hotten, 1874, p. 281.) p 281
  4. 4.0 4.1 Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume V, M-P. p. 200. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2007, p. 200.Subscription$
  5. Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692. Vol. I-IV. Vol III p. 257. Boston, MA, USA: 1860-1862.
  6. Jacobus, Donald Lines (compiler). Families of Ancient New Haven, Vol I-VIII. and Index Vol IX New Haven: 1931. Reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1974, 1981, 1997. Originally published as New Haven Genealogical Magazine, Volumes I-VIII. Rome, NY and New Haven, CT 1922-1932.

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I now believe that the Susan Munson that migrated here was single. She may have been a relative of Thomas Munson but defiantly not his wife or even his sister. I'm still investigating all this. According to my research, she and her husband settled in New York. The Suzan Munson whom I believe was actually the daughter of John and Elizabeth never left England. She married Thomas Moore and had four children, then married William Moore who had three children. She died in England. I would love if we could finally solve this mystery. I'll keep you posted when I can get more sources and references.
posted by [Living Ford]
Donna, Remember, the Thomas Moore who was married to Susan and had four children in Stock probably married Susan Francis https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVPW-SMT not Susan Munson.
posted by Anne B
I don't believe that is the right Thomas Moore or Suzan Munson, that your referring to.
posted by [Living Ford]
Unk-10876's PM was inactive. Now that profile is "No Profile Manger."

Since we don't think she was married to a Munson, but her name was Munson on the ship's manifest, it seems as though Munson was her LNAB and she was single when she migrated.

So I'm thinking merge Unk-10876 into this one.

UNKNOWN-10876 and Munson-2360 appear to represent the same person because: These are meant to be the same person, but it is unknown if she was single or married. Use Munson since that is the only given name we have for her.
posted by Anne B
I have just set Munson-2360 and [[Unknown-10876|Unknown-10876] as an unmerged match. They are the same person. The question is before the merge gets started. Do we list her as Munson (the name on the ship manifest) or Unknown (from the belief that she might have been the wife of Thomas Munson, which she is not)? Do we think she was married or single when she emigrated?

Carole, if you have thoughts on this post them to the other profile.

posted on UNKNOWN-10876 (merged) by Anne B
I have just set Munson-2360 and UNKNOWN-10876 as an unmerged match. They are the same person. The question is before the merge gets started. Do we list her as Munson (the name on the ship manifest) or Unknown (from the belief that she might have been the wife of Thomas Munson, which she is not)? Do we think she was married or single when she emigrated?
posted by Anne B
edited by Anne B
Yes, Ann. She was married to Thomas Moore. They had 5 or 6 children. I'm not at my desk right now to send you the information. I'll try to remember to send it to you later. She was born in 1603/04. She did immigrate here on the Elizabeth, when she was 25 yr. old. (The Planters of the Commonwealth...1620-1640) (Boston, 1930) (120-121). I think her husband came with her. They ended up back in England and that's where she died .Her brother, Captain Thomas Munson was my Direct Ancestor (10 generations. I have quite a lot of information about this family. Please, e-mail me and I can send you my info. I have most of it on PDF's.
posted by [Living Ford]
edited by [Living Ford]
First you should edit your comment and take out your email address, to protect yourself. If you want to send someone your email on Wikitree use the send private message option on their profile.

It has been determined by wiser minds than mine (ie Anderson) that the woman who boarded the Elizabeth 1635, has no records in New England, so it cannot be proved that she was Munson's sister. I am curious about which Thomas Moore you think she married and why you think so. I'll send you an email.

posted by Anne B
Thank you M. & Chris,

I detached parents, disputed origins here, notes on profiles of *parents.* I also added maintenance category, in case neither of you have time to flesh out the biography. If you do take it on, please remove maintenance category. Thanks.

Thank you Michael. I added the comment while doing the daily activity feed check, so didn’t have time to fully review. I apologize for my mistake.

What is the source for the parents you provided? Thank you.

Thank you to the co-profile manager for working on this profile.

parents were changed, citing Banks.

Will a PGM Crew member please review? Thank you.

I did not change the parents of Susan Munson. There were no parents entered on the previous version. The Banks cite refers only to the Susan Munson name on the Elizabeth passenger list.
posted by Michael Lewis
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posted by [Living Ford]
deleted by [Living Ford]
I added sources from the GM Directory. Great Migration sketch which indicates no record of Susan in New England and a TAG article which explores her possible connection (maybe sister?) to Thomas Munson (1612-1685) of New Haven. It notes that her age in the ship record doesn't match the baptism date, but that ships lists were not particularly accurate with regard to age. But her presence on the ship with Munnings, Kimballs and Scotts, does imply a connection to the other families of Rattlesden.
posted by M Cole
edited by M Cole
NEHGR : 57: 331 lists the baptism of this Susan to John and Elizabeth but indicates there is no proof she is the immigrant. https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image/?volumeId=11719&pageName=331&rId=23530225

Anderson profiles the immigrant Susan on the Elizabeth as origins Unk . GM: V: 200

There does not appear to be any proof of the connection.

https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/great-migration-immigrants-to-new-england-1634-1635-volume-v-m-p/image/?volumeId=12155&pageName=200&rId=235140115

posted by Chris Hoyt

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