Meet our Members: Melanie Paul

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Melanie PaulHi everyone!

It's time to get to know another one of wonderful WikiTreers. This week's member is Melanie Paul.

Melanie became a Wiki Genealogist in October 2018. Among many other things mentioned below, Melanie is a Team Leader for Profile Improvement Team in the Australia Project. 

When did you get interested in genealogy?

I don't remember a time when I wasn't interested. I grew up hearing stories about my mother's beloved brother from whom she had grown up separately, her cousins, her Gran, the beloved parents she lost before she was 10; that I had a gr-grandfather who was a Doctor, and another who was a Judge; that one of my gr-grandfather's had been involved in setting up some kind of radio tower in New Guinea; that I was descended from gold miners who had emigrated from England - and that they were miners, not panners; that I had numerous cousins who had married their own 1st cousins; that my grand aunt was a famous (for her day, anyway) pianist who had travelled between England and Australia, Australia and New Zealand, England and New Zealand, and so on; that the grand aunt's son was in the Grenadier Guards (band) for a while; that I had a Swedish great-grandfather we didn't know a whole lot about (which strikes me now as rather strange given that one of his sons went to Sweden somewhen before 1950 and brought back five copies of a family book that took us back to the late 1490s); 

What are some of your interests outside of genealogy?  

There is life outside genealogy? surprise

I love to read. I love history, and much of my early reading involved historical novels, then I graduated to real history. I had read the entire 10-volume set of our encyclopedia before I was 10 (and had tried to teach myself French from those volumes, too, and crochet).  I think my first experience with literature that was not English-based (or Australian) was from the "foreign" stories included in each volume.  Some were from Japan, and I remember one about a Moon Maiden.  A couple of times I actually read the dictionary for fun. Games, especially games that make you think, that expand your knowledge, but also games that are just for fun. 

I love to listen to music — my Mum used to play piano, and she composed as well.  My kids and grandkids also play.  I also sing — although I've never actually had singing lessons (other than when in school). My kids and I would sing for church, which followed a family tradition of singing as my family always sang when I was growing up.  (I was the youngest member of my church's choir — the only child.)  I'm afraid, however, that I was the despair of my daughter when singing.  With perfect and absolute pitch, she'd pull my starting note out of the air, I'd get it spot on until it was time to actually start the song.  That's when I'd start half a tone off, and she'd have to adjust everything to match with me.  

I like crafts, and cooking, too, and the latter love seems to have passed down as my kids are quite inventive with their cooking.  I also love words, how they convey so much.  Many years ago I wrote a few stories that never got published, although I did use quite a number of them as teaching aids.

What is your genealogical research focus?

It used to be specifically my own — extended — family, going as broadly as the notes my Mum had spent much of her life putting together from her own research, or things she had been told by aunts or cousins.  (I still have not come to the bottom of her notes.)  I would say it has changed, because I probably spend more time researching other families than my own. I enjoy solving puzzles, so am likely to dive in head-first and chase any number of rabbits down any number of holes.

Are you interested in certain surnames or locations? 

Any surname related to my family — those keep growing, because the more you add spouses of relatives, the more names you are adding to your branches. I sometimes see a surname I recognise, and my inner rabbit hunter sits up and says "I wonder if that person could be related to this other person?" and off I am likely to go chasing down that last name. I found a long loop-around from me, through my paternal grand aunt, all the way back through my mother to me because of recognising a name.  (It has to go through me, because if I shorten the loop so it goes by way of my mother's marriage to my father, she will gather her ashes together and come back to haunt me!)   Any location related to my family (which is a lot of places).

(interview continues in comments)

WikiTree profile: Melanie Paul
in The Tree House by Eowyn Walker G2G Astronaut (2.5m points)
reshown by Chris Whitten

Do you have a favorite ancestor?

A favourite ancestor would have to be my 4-greats-Grandmother.  She was a musician, a composer (even if some male claimed her work as his own and got away with it), and she has the most glorious name — Tempest. 

Do you have a favorite discovery?

A current favourite discovery (these do tend to change the more research is done, the more problems get solved) is also a brick wall breakthrough. My Scottish great-great-Grandfather's brother died rather horrendously. He (the brother) and his wife had had two sons, both of whom vanished from Australian records until the younger one was "discovered" years later in Queensland with his uncles.  (Well, we knew he was there, but there was this huge gap in records between infancy in New South Wales, and adulthood in Queensland.)  The older one had been thought to have died young, because of the no records thing.  Some while ago I found non-Australian records for the younger son and the mother, but not the older son, pretty much reinforcing the idea that he had died in infancy.  None of the cousins had any record of him, either, so we noted that he most likely died at, or soon after, birth and only one registration for him was made. 

Recently, while looking for something else, I found a death registration in England that simply jumped up and yelled at me "Here I am!  Here I am!" — and what genealogist can resist such a siren call?  I looked at it, bookmarked it, then went on with what I was doing. Came back to it later, looked at it again, thought about it some, made some notes in my text file, and went on with what I was doing. Much later came back to it again, looked at it, analysed it as coldly as I could, thought about it, then applied to purchase the certificate.  (Anyone researching using the GRO knows just how little information is actually given on the results of a search.  There's just not much at all to say "this is THE one".)  I then waited as patiently as possible for the email to tell me my order had been processed and my pdf copy of the death certificate was now available.  Brick wall down — this young boy was my long-lost, thought to have died an infant, cousin.  He had, indeed, died young, just aged 6-years, not 0, and in England, not Australia.  His story now has a proper ending, not a speculative one.

What is your toughest brick wall currently? 

I'd have to say the end of my Paul line, because the name is just too common, and too little is known of that end of the family.  All the other "dead ends" I have are just temporary stops along the way.  When I find I am going in circles, I stop working on that particular thing, and pick up something else.  Take a break and get some "fresh air", as it were.

How long have you been on WikiTree?

I've been on WikiTree since 2018.  I had done my usual random internet search for my ancestors, to see what people had for them (and to see how correct they were), and found my Paul line was here, fairly well documented from the Doctor up, but with a few things that needed tweaking.  So, I messaged the then manager of whichever profile it was, offered my information, and any corrections, and it just went from there.  It wasn't long before I actually signed up for an account, eventually getting the Wiki Genealogist badge.

What do you spend the most time doing on WikiTree?

I probably spend more time researching than doing, because without the research how can you verify what you do?  I like to be as accurate as possible (hence the ongoing search, off and on, for that missing cousin mentioned earlier), and you cannot be accurate without proper sources to support your statements.  It's all well and good to say "so-and-so is the child of this-person and that-person", but if you cannot support that with documents, how can it be trusted?  I work on somewhat obscure Notables, too.  I enjoy creating profiles for people who have made an impression on me, even if they are no longer as well-known as they once were.  The absolutely brilliant Black American pianist Gene Rodgers, for example, blew me away with his playing in some old movie I was watching, so I looked him up.  He was on Wikipedia, but was not on WikiTree.  Now he is (and he was my first "from scratch" USBH profile, too).  Nora Lane (Schilling-1876) is another, Gabby Hayes (Hayes-20962), Wild Bill Elliott (Nance-2994), David Rappaport (Rappaport-121), William Sampson Jr, (Sampson-5017), Ross Martin (Rosenblatt-205), Allan "Rocky" Lane (Albershart-3), and so on.  More recently I've been working on Notable Australians, particularly Notable Australian WOMEN.  (There was a G2G post (https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1581689/notables-gender-bias-among-others) about the imbalance in profiles, more Americans than non-Americans, and more males than females, so I just had to do my little part in addressing the issue!)

Which projects are you most involved in?

Oh, boy, what a question.  I tend to cycle around my badged Projects, when need arises — which is often due to my tendency to chase rabbits down holes.  The "most involved in" also changes due to the aforementioned rabbits, but mostly would be Australia Project (where I was recently elevated to Team Leader of the Project's Profile Improver Teams, Connectors, Bio Builders, Data Doctors, Sourcerers and where I am part of the Notables Team, the New Zealand Project (also part of a terrific Team who work on Notables), Remember the Children Project (which I was part of before it even became a capital-P Project), and the Notables Project

While I do add the profiles of non-"celebrities", I do tend to do rather a lot of them, either by design, or because I stumbled across them while chasing rabbits, or watching old movies or television shows.  Recently I was working with another Aus-Project member to get an Australian Living Notable Connected to the main Tree, and the trail took me from Australia to his English grandparents, and up the branches, and out along other branches to a Notable English family (where I am still following the rabbits).  While I have added a few Living Notables to the Tree, I prefer to work on those already deceased, because there are just so many of them that do not yet have profiles, and so many of them are falling into obscurity because of the plethora of newer faces every year. 

I also regularly work on profiles connected to the USBH Project, as well as the Wales, Ireland, Scotland, and England Projects.  ANZACs, too, are close to my heart, because my Granddad lost his older brother in the Great War, and my Gran her "favourite" brother.  Also, my maternal grand-aunt's husband's brothers — immigrants all — enlisted in the Australian forces in the Great War, and not all of them came home.  I could not help but imagine how that must've hit the folks back in Scotland; they'd "lost" their sons already to another country, then lost some of them to war.

How can others help those projects?

I think all Projects can be helped in their goals, not just those of which I am a member.  If you are a member, or thinking of becoming a member, of a Project, any Project, check in with their Project page/s and see where the needs may be greatest, or just talk to the folk who are part of the Project.  If you like writing biographies, but not collecting sources, perhaps you could be part of that Project's bio builders, and free up someone who loves to collect sources, but dislikes writing biographies, to do what they prefer.  We call that "collaboration".

What inspires you to contribute so much of yourself to WikiTree's mission? Do you consider your work here to be part of your legacy? 

When I first found WikiTree, I loved the idea of the one world Tree where we are all connected somehow; and of having well-sourced profiles — one to a person — unlike the messes I saw elsewhere.  I still think it is an admirable goal — and we all need a goal of some kind.  My work as part of my legacy?  I guess I do, in a way.  I want my grandchildren and the children of my siblings and cousins to be able to look at what I have done and say "Oh, wow!  I didn't know that about (name)." and maybe get interested enough to add more.

What is your favorite feature or function on WikiTree?

I think it's the Relationship/Connection Finder. Because it's wonderful to see people getting excited over being related to, or connected to, this person, or that person, even when those people are not the featured celebs of the week. 

I know it was a real thrill for me the very first time I Connected a fellow WikiTreer to the main Tree. That thrill is still there every time I make that Connection, whether for a fellow WikiTreer, or for a deceased celebrity – or non-celebrity – because they are still someone's relative, or ancestor, even if they don't yet know it. 

What would you most like to see added or improved?

I really wish the way marriages / partnerships display on profiles in the native interface (the one the casual browser sees) didn't use the words husband or wife.  For people who are / were divorced, it is really jarring to see it stated that they are the wife/husband of someone they may have not been married to for longer than the marriage itself lasted.  (I hide my first marriage for that reason.  Not because I am ashamed of it, but because I am not his wife anymore, and have not been for 40-plus years.)  For people who never married, but were in long-term relationships, the same applies, as it does for same-sex relationships.

Do you have a story about how someone was helped through your participation on WikiTree? 

I don't have any stories, as such (that'd feel too much like blowing my own trumpet), but the thanks I get say I have helped others, and that gives me the warm fuzzies every time I get such a message.

Do you have a story about how you were helped through the work of others on WikiTree? 

Oh, yes!  Eva Ekeblad (Ekeblad-7), Antonia Reuvers (Widenstedt-15), and others of the Sweden Project were wonderful when I needed assistance with Swedish records I could not understand.  My Swedish line grew as a result, as did that of my in-laws. 

Do you have any tips for someone who wants to get more involved in our community?

Just jump in.  Don't be afraid to ask questions if you don't understand something.  In fact, the questions you ask — even if you consider them silly (there are no silly questions except the ones that never get asked) — may help someone else who is struggling with the same, or similar, issue/s.  If there's something specific that piques your interest, and there's a Project for it — join the Project!  If it's not something where there's a capital-P Project for it, maybe there's a "free space project" (lower case p), such as the Doctor Who project, or Classic Disney project, jump aboard it! 

Also, don't get upset if someone edits "your" profiles (there will always be someone ready to remind that they aren't "our" profiles, as we share so many ancestors, and collaborate on open profiles).  If they add something that isn't correct, that can be rectified, but mostly they are there as part of the collaboration aspect of a wiki in order to improve what's already there. (Sometimes it's to correct something that is throwing off an error warning for those we call Data Doctors — a great bunch of folk who like to "fix" things.)  Stick with it, even if it seems tough when you first get started.  It is definitely easier the more you do, and there's always the community for support and help if / when you need it.  And on that, never be afraid to ask for help if you get stuck on anything. Never be afraid to offer help, either. If you have information that may be helpful, or is at the time not verified, add those things under a == Research Notes == header (beneath the biography text, but above the Sources header).  You can "sign" such notes so others can see just when you made them, and they will hopefully show chronologically.  (Signing in a biography text box is done by using four tildes (~~~~), but only works if above the Sources header.  If you want to sign something beneath the Sources header, sign above, save the edit, re-edit and move the signature to where you wanted it, then save again.) 

Get involved in challenges.  Even if you think you don't know much, you may learn things along the way, and be of more help than you realise.  There are usually four 'Thons per year (our short-form of "marathon"), where we join Teams and work toward a common goal, while "competing" against other Teams.  (MY own Team is the "Toddlin' Tortoises", because we're slower than most, and don't care if we come first at the wrong end because that makes all the other Teams look good!)  Apart from the 'Thon events, there are other challenges throughout the year, and monthly events run by Projects.  Lately, too, there have been what are called "popup" challenge events.  Something in any of those might just be right up your alley, so go ahead and jump in!

What could we do to inspire more people to participate in our mission?  

(1) Keep working to add more non-Americans / non-English speakers, and 

(2) encourage American members to think more globally.  People won't be inspired if all they see are people with whom they have nothing in common, the site appears unwelcoming to them, or what they see is American dates, and place abbreviations.  An example of the first point — my Indian relatives would like to see more Indians with profiles, and more of them Connected.  An example of the second would be someone who always uses the American "short date" form in posts (example: 5/10, or 8/12), despite being reminded that not everyone interprets them the same way; just as not everyone who sees WA will understand that is for Washington State not Western Australia, or AZ is for Arizona and not Azerbaijan.  

(3) Feature more non-Americans (and non-Royals) in the Connection Finder weekly themes — not just as the "support" profiles, but as the main feature.  

(4) When a non-American non-British Royal "celebrity" dies, change the EPOW for them, the way it is so frequently done for American celebs.  Not everyone necessarily "relates" to American film stars, or American sporting figures, who may be "big" in the United States, but not necessarily famous – or of interest – elsewhere.

Every step like that is another step to making the cousins from the rest of the world feel more as though they really are a part of the larger whole.  The more they feel accepted, the more inspired they are likely to be. 

Congratulations on being selected Melanie.  Well deserved!

Thank you, Dennis.

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Wonderful interview. Thank you for sharing your stories! Great to see you as Member of the Week. Congratulations for that, and thank you for all you do for the Australia Project, as well as all your other work on WikiTree.
by Australia Project WikiTree G2G2 (2.1k points)
selected by Danny Stapleton
Whoops! That's from me!

Pretty sure you speak for a lot of us wink Thanks Gillian

As Sue says, you really do speak for all of us in the Australia Project, with these sentiments Gillian. Melanie is a one in million genealogist, and we are all glad she is one of us. :-)

Regards

Danny in canberra

Thanks, Gillian, Sue, and Danny.

+25 votes

MPWW! On more than one occasion you have reeled me back in and made me pause and do some deliberate thinking, changing or modifying my position, without criticism. On more than one occasion your input has kept me from closing my account and consider other options for genealogy. I enjoyed getting to know you better thru your interview and appreciate how agreeable you are even when we disagree. For my first year on WT you always seemed to be there at the right time and have the right advice or input. Thank you down under from up above. Geographically speaking of coarse, Kevin

by K Smith G2G6 Pilot (375k points)

Thank you, K.   blush

+19 votes

yesyesCongratulations on your M.O.M. recognition!  You are 1 in a million!wink

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.7m points)

Thank you, David.

Thank you gladdies.

+23 votes

Melanie Paul is a most C'est Bon Magnifique WikiTreer !!! 

by Stanley Baraboo G2G Astronaut (1.4m points)

Thank you, Stanley.  blush

Thank you gladdies.

+20 votes

Melanie, congratulations on being Member of the Week!! I loved reading about you, your projects and accomplishments. Thank you for all you have done for WikiTree and I especially am partial to your Remember the Children contributions.

by Virginia Fields G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

Thanks, Virginia.

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Woohoo Melanie. You are doing a great job. And I hear you on the plan to build up the non-Americans profiles sister! It's meant to be a global tree after all. (PS I don't have anything against Americans, I just prefer to see more global exposure).
by Melanie White G2G6 Mach 2 (22.7k points)

Thanks, Melanie!  (In response to your PS comment re Americans - nor do I, or I would not have married one!)

+17 votes
Thank you, Melanie, for sharing your story, and congratulations on being MotW!

I particularly enjoyed reading about your love for reading dictionaries. Aren't they an excellent introduction to genealogy with all the short bio teasers in them? ;-)

Your insistence of that loop going through you instead of through your parents' marriage lest your mum gather her ashes and haunt you, made me chuckle. (And yes, I can relate.) Thanks again!!!
by Oliver Stegen G2G6 Pilot (125k points)

Thank you, Oliver.  Dictionaries can be a wealth of information!

+13 votes

Congratulations Malanie on being Member of the Week!smiley

by Gary Nevius G2G6 Pilot (920k points)

Thank you, Gary.

Thank you gladdies.

+17 votes
The bigger question is where doesn't Mel help on WikiTree? That would be easier to count that where she does help. Mel has made so many contributions that might seem small on the surface, but have had an enormous impact. Like creating the image for the USBH sticker for instance.

Thanks for everything you do, Mel!
by Emma MacBeath G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
Awesome!!

Thank you, Emma, and Eileen!

+14 votes

Great going Mel!!!

Time for a few Arnott's biscuits for you! laugh

by LJ Russell G2G6 Pilot (219k points)

Thanks, LJ!

+13 votes
G'day mate!

Congratulations on being the Member of the Week! You have been a big help during the Thons for the Toddlin' Tortoises! Slow and steady wins the race.
by Eileen Robinson G2G6 Pilot (204k points)

Thanks, Eileen!

+13 votes
Hi Melanie,

What a great way to get to know you even better. I think I can safely say you’re one of the real valuable assets for Wikitree. Without you so many things wouldn’t be the same. Congrats on your Projectleader ship for the profile improvement team of Australië, but I hope you will always be available for everyone who needs your help.

Stay who you are, because you’re a diamond.
by Margreet Beers G2G6 Pilot (153k points)

Thank you, Margreet!

+10 votes
There is a town named after me in Oklahoma. The town's name is Hulbert, after Ben H. Hulbert, a Cherokee Indian. I wish a very happy Valentine's Day to all those of Indian origin and non-whites worldwide. My surname is Hulbert. Rob William Hulbert.
by Rob Hulbert G2G Crew (810 points)

Thanks.

The name Lawrance derives from Lawrence / Laurence, which in turn derives from Laurel, used in ancient times to denote success, and peace.

 

+12 votes
Thanks for your work and leadership on WikiTree.

You are a valuable member on the Wales Project.
by Stuart Awbrey G2G6 Mach 8 (86.1k points)

Thanks, Stuart.

+10 votes

P.S. Share the spread the word!

by Azure Robinson G2G6 Pilot (565k points)

Thanks, Az.

Thank you gladdies.

+10 votes
Fantastic interview! Melanie's enthusiasm is contagious and a boon for Wikitree. Thank you for being you, Melanie
by Maggie N. G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)

Thanks, Maggie.  blush

+10 votes
Fantastic and really interesting interview, MelanieI Thank you for putting so much thought and of yourself into it. I agree completely with your statement about the need to change how relationship are handled by Wikitree. I find you very supportive; it is great to have you on the Kiwi Crew, too!
by Clare Pierson G2G6 Mach 2 (24.4k points)

Thanks, Clare.  blush

+9 votes

I love your interview, Melanie. There's even a tiny thumbnail photo; I thought we would never pry that out. laugh

You're an amazing WikiTreer, leader (especially of the TTs), manager of pages, and project/thon participant. And everything else you do in the warrens. It was fun to read your interview and get to know more. 

by Laura Ward G2G6 Mach 4 (46.2k points)

Thanks Laura.  blush   

+6 votes
Congrats, Melanie, beautiful interview!
by Cristina Corbellani G2G6 Mach 7 (76.8k points)

Thanks, Cristina.

Thank you gladdies.

+4 votes

Melanie! Thanks for a great interview! Also, thanks for the Team Missouri mascot "Little MO" that you created for us!

by Bartley McRorie G2G6 Pilot (166k points)

Thanks, Bartley.

Go Team MO!

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