OK we have an overlapping profile that is a part of the New Netherland Settlers Project

+5 votes
but falls within the new Norway name change thing

So I was looking in G2G there and reading up on this and that when I came across this new thing they are doing in the Norway Project and there is a big G2G announcement about it:


and I hope that links properly to that question thread - anyhow so I thought of my sixth great grandfather (and seventh - pedigree collapse) and this might affect the name that we use for him as well as he would be subject to this change from what I understand - or did his special circumstances make him not the same in this regards?
WikiTree profile: Albert Andriessen Bradt
in Policy and Style by Navarro Mariott G2G6 Pilot (145k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

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After looking into this, I think this particular LNAB problem is one that we can resolve pretty easily, and with a result that is consistent with the specific naming connections of both the New Netherland Settlers and Norway projects.

It's rather common for New Netherland settlers to be widely documented with a family name (such as Bratt or Bradt) when primary sources show that they used a patronymic for most or all of their lives. This is one such situation.

The earliest record that exists for Albert is the record of his marriage in the Netherlands in 1632. The record itself gives his last name as Andriess (a patronymic, with a Dutch spelling); but he signed it with the last name of Andriessen (also a patronymic, with a spelling consistent with Norwegian usage). Since "Andriessen" is the way he signed his name (and he did so as a young man), that's his LNAB according to the New Netherland Settlers project naming conventiona, and it's 100% consistent with the convention for Norway.

Note: This and other profiles for the early generations of the New Netherland Bratt/Bradt family need a lot of work. The profiles for several family members are the result of merges of a number of duplicate profiles (I count at least 10 profiles for Albert). They contain duplicative and contradictory content inherited from the various duplicates -- some of it from excellent sources and some of it indiscriminately copied from somewhere on the Internet. The 1948 article in The American Genealogist by respected American genealogist Donald Lines Jacobus (subscription needed) looks like an excellent starting point (and possibly the main basis) for revising these profiles, but it will need to be supplemented by citations to the primary sources, and we'll need to comb through these articles to remove erroneous information (such as dates that belong to some other person), check cited sources to see what they contain and make sure they are cited correctly, etc. 

by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
It is a lot that is still not fixed but working on it - lots of information out there on them - some contradicts other accounts - for instance have seen where Albert was leader of an underground Lutheran group that could not worship until the English took over in 1674 - but then in another account there was talk of a church being set up in I think 1652 - of course I lost track of it right now - (will find again) so many sources and the stories get muddled - The thing is for Albert and family - Bradt should not even be their name- but they are so well known by it it would be foolish to get rid of it - Andriessen should be his name  - so much history I am re-learning here working on this family again - just love it.  Well back to the matching and sorting

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