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Ludwick Lybarger (abt. 1727 - abt. 1827)

Ludwick (Ludwig) Lybarger
Born about in Kurfürstentum Pfalz, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
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Died about at about age 100 in Madley, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, USAmap
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Biography

1776 Project
Private Ludwig Lybarger served with Bedford County Militia, Pennsylvania Militia during the American Revolution.
Daughters of the American Revolution
Ludwig Lybarger is a DAR Patriot Ancestor, A070262.

Ludwick was a Rev War Patriot, Capt Paxton's 4th Co, 1st Battalion, Bedford Co Militia.

He was a very early settler of Londonderry Township, settling on Wolf Camp Run. He had a tannery that was still on his property (as of 1997), and erected one of the first mills in that part of the county. Ludwick and wife Phoebe are listed as communicants of the Little Wills Creek Church in the years 1805-1826. Tradition has it that one morning Ludwick had been sowing oats and came home from the field for the noon day meal. He laid down for a few minutes of rest and peacefully passed away. His will is dated 20 Feb 1827, and was proved 17 Aug 1827. Will - Book 2, p 241 Bedford Co, PA. In his will he mentions his wife Philabena, two of his older sons and his younger children. At that time most of his older children had moved to Ohio. There is no record to tell accurately the order of birth of his children. SAR Patriot Graves Register says buried in Lybarger Lutheran Church Cem, Londonderry Twp, Bedford Co, PA.

He passed away about 1827.[1][2][3]

The will of Ludwig Lybarger can be found on pp. 418-419. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99B-LKM3?i=418&wc=9PMD-3TP%3A268498201%2C269794101&cc=1999196

Establishing the Lybarger (Now Christ) Evangelical Lutheran Church

On November 17, 1805, a small group of Lutherans, led by Reverand (sic) Henry Hanker, gathered at the Wills Creek home of Henry Lybarger and took part in the sacrament of the Holy Communion. And thus began the formal, recorded history of what is today Christ (formerly Lybarger) Evangelical Lutheran Church. There were 26 participants at that first communion table. They were: Christopher Ball, Rachel Ball, Mary Crise, Elizabeth Cupp, Peter Cupp, Catherine Fait, Frederick Fait, Susanna Fait, Mary Fisher, Hannah Haines, Mary Helms, Adam Lybarger, Barbara Lybarger, Daniel Lybarger, Henry Lybarger, Sr., Ludwick Lybarger, Sr., Mary Reams, Sarah Smith, Mary Wagaman, Jesse Walker, Andrew Wolford, Catherine Wolford, Charlotte Wolford, Frederick Wolford, Sr., Joseph Wolford, and Mary Wolford. See Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church. https://www.pa-roots.com/bedford/church


Sources

  1. ↑ "Geni World Family Tree" on MyHeritage, profiled below
  2. ↑ "BillionGraves Index", Burial, Ludwick Lybarger, Bedford, Bedford, Pennsylvania, United States, Cemetery: Lybarger Cemetery, Death Date: 1827, Birth Date: 1727. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3TC-3VH
  3. ↑ Find A Grave Index", Ludwig Lybarger, Death or Burial Place: Madley, Bedford, Pennsylvania, United States of America, Cemetery: Lybarger Cemetery, Event Type: Burial. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVVX-Y7S6

See also:

Where The Record Is Found (Citation)
Geni World Family Tree
MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd.
Ludwig Lybarger, Sr
Describe The Record (Notes)
Ludwig Lybarger, Sr
Birth: 1734 - Brenschelbach, Lower Palatinate, Germany
Death: Aug 17 1827 - Bedford County, Pennsylvania, United States
Father: Nikolaus Leyenberger
Mother: Maria Catharina Leyberger (born Catgaruba)
Wives: Philabena Lybarger (born NN), Barbara Lybarger (born NN)
Children: Samuel Lybarger, Jacob Lybarger, Grandel Unknown, Isaac Lybarger, Benjamin Lybarger, Frederick Lybarger, Daniel Lybarger, Elizabeth Lybarger, Joseph J Lybarger, Sr, Mary (born Lybarger), Abraham Lybarger, John Lybarger, Elizabeth (born Lyberger), Sally Lybarger, Grandel Lybarger, Abraham Unknown, Henry G Lybarger, George Lybarger, Isaac Unknown, Ludwick "Louis" Lybarger, Jr., Lewis Lybarger, Sr., Andrew Lybarger, David Unknown, John Unknown
Siblings: Nicholas Lybarger, Sr., John George Leyenberger




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Green-34392 Mel Green
I am having a problem with William Lybarger (Lybarger-177) son of Ludwig Lybarger (Lybarger-56). I have checked all the available sources Geni World Tree (geni.com, FindAGrave.com. will of Ludwig Lybarger, myheritage.com database), and nowhere do I find a reference to William Lybarger, son of Ludwig. What I DO find is a myriad of references to William Lybarger (Lybarger-54) son of Andrew Lybarger (Lybarger-55). Consider the following stats: 1)William/Ludwig, b. 4 Mar 1809 Bedford, PA, d. 26 Nov 1900 Muskingum, Ohio. 2)William/Andrew, b.4 Mar 1809 Bedford, PA, d. 26 Nov 1900 Muskingum, Ohio. It is obvious that Lybarger-177 and Lybarger-54 are the same person. My feeling is that Andrew moved to Ohio with his family and they all died there, and there is no Ludwig/William. My feeling is that we could solve the problem by simply removing Lybarger-177, no harm no foul since they are duplicates anyway. Anybody have a problem with that, or should I go through the merging procedure?
posted by Mel Green
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Rutherford-448 Dave Rutherford
We don't normally 'remove' or delete profiles on WikiTree. When we have a clear duplicate like this the proper procedure is always to merge the profiles. I'll disconnect william as a son of Ludwig and set up the merge.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Green-34392 Mel Green
Thanks Dave. I've never had to do a merge as a 2 step process before {Deleting unneeded father, then. setting up a clean merge). Intuitively it makes sense and I should have figured it out on my own.
posted by Mel Green
Rutherford-448 Dave Rutherford
Everything about merges is not intuitive, so I understand your trepidation. And thank you again for all your hard work on this family.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Green-34392 Mel Green
Well, I've long since been retired, so I have a lot of time on my hands.
posted by Mel Green
Ronda (Morris) Oglesby
I have his wife as Philbena Phebe Barbara Volmer 1736-1828
posted by Ronda (Morris) Oglesby
Rutherford-448 Dave Rutherford
I think he married twice and he married Philbena after his first wife died. Do you have any sources for the last name?
posted by Dave Rutherford
Green-34392 Mel Green
Dave: I'm sorry that I missed your post. I was tracing the genealogy of my Great Aunt Catherine Hartland, wife of Norman Lybarger and ended up at Ludwick Lybarger, which put me plumb into middle of the Palatine Migration Project, for whom I had already created a Wikitree profile, which then gave me the problem of merging the two profiles. I would agree to merging the two profiles, and you can include any or none of my research. I just wanted it done.

One source would be "Daughters of the American Revolution, DAR Genealogical Research Databases", database online, (http://www.dar.org/ : accessed July 23, 2016), "Record of Ludwick Liberger", Ancestor # A070262. It would seem the Barbara was the first wife of Ludwig, the mother of Ludwig Lybarger. There is another reference in that same source that seems to claim the she was the mother of Henry Lybarger, so go figure. Let me know how you want to handle this. I'll agree with whatever you say.

posted by Mel Green
edited by Mel Green
Green-34392 Mel Green
Dave: I missed the part about the last name of Barbara. I'm sorry, but the reference I quoted does not give a last name.
posted by Mel Green
Green-34392 Mel Green
Dave: The URL I gave you for the Ludwick's DAR record is incomplete. For it to work use https://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/default.cfm?action=full&p_id=A070262. I'll correct my profile for Ludwick
posted by Mel Green
edited by Mel Green
Rutherford-448 Dave Rutherford
I've corrected a couple of dates to help clarify that Philbena was his second wife. But there still looks to be work done here. In particular, it looks like many of the children may be listed with the incorrect mother.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Green-34392 Mel Green
Dave: I have list all the children of Ludwig in chronological order with the name of their mother. These were created by Ronda Oglesby so we may have to back to her to discuss a few issues:
  • -Lewis Ludwick b.1762 mother unknown (I'm not sure if he belongs in this list)
  • -Ludwick Jr. b. 1764 mother Barbara
  • -Daniel b. 12 Dec 1765 mother Barbara
  • -David b. 12 Dec 1765 mother Barbara (twins?)
  • -Mary b. 8 May 1765 mother Barbara (very short gestation period?)
  • -Lewis b.1771 mother Barbara
  • -Isaac b. 1772 mother Barbara
  • -Frederick b.1774 mother Barbara
  • -Andrew b. 1778 mother Barbara
  • -Jacob b. 1783 mother Philbena
  • -Joseph b. 1801 mother Barbara
  • -John b.1802 mother Barbara
  • -Abraham b.1808 mother Barbara
  • -William b. 1809 mother Barbara

If your date of 1783 is correct, then any child born after Jacob should be mothered by Philbena. Ronda's source is from ancestry.com, to which I don't belong, so they're not available to me.

posted by Mel Green
edited by Mel Green
Rutherford-448 Dave Rutherford
Find A Grave - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/12305675/ludwig-lybarger has a different (if somewhat similar) list of names. According to this, Jacob 1783 was Barbara's last child, which makes sense as she would have been on into her forties by then. The memorial's list suggests that he did not marry Philbena until about 1798 so all the late children were hers. No way that Barbara could have had children by then anyway.

I suggest that we use these lists as a template to sort out the children until such time as we can obtain better sources.

posted by Dave Rutherford
Green-34392 Mel Green
Should I do this on my own, or should we encourage Ronda Oglesby to do it? I don't mind doing it, but I wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers.
posted by Mel Green
edited by Mel Green
Green-34392 Mel Green
Hey Dave, I hate to throw another complication into this mix, but if you go to https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7928307/andrew-lybarger for son Andrew, you'll get a reference to his parents as Ludwick Lybarger and Naomi Thompson Lybarger (1783-1867). Does she show up anywhere else in this saga? At the birth of Andrew (1778) she wouldn't have been born yet. My vote would be to ignore this reference,
posted by Mel Green
edited by Mel Green
Green-34392 Mel Green
Dave; This is turning into some sort of Odyssey. From Ludwick's will, the following children are named: Ludwick, Frederick, Grandel, Benjamin, Joseph, Isaac, Elizabeth, and Sally. The following children are not named in his will but are included in the children shown in the Find A Grave site that you mentioned: Daniel, Lewis, George, Andrew, Jacob, John, and Abraham. The following names are shown in Ludwick's profile, but not on either of the sources above: Mary, David, and William.

I can accept the Will and the Find A Grave sites as valid sources for inclusions in Ludwick's profile, but that leaves me with no sources for David, Mary, and William. Maybe Ronda could help us out here?

posted by Mel Green
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Green-34392 Mel Green
The Jacob Lybarger Family Tree at https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/jacob-lybarger-24-2py5sgq shows his father as Ludwick Lybarger and his mother as Barbara Vollmer.
posted by Mel Green
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Green-34392 Mel Green
Dave: I updated the Ludwick's children, and added a few more, so that the appropriate mother is shown for each child. I still feel uneasy about William, Mary, and David, since they don't seem to appear on any source, and Lewis Ludwig which I don't feel belongs here, as mentioned in the Find A Grave source for Pvt. Ludwig Lybarger.
posted by Mel Green
Green-34392 Mel Green
Lybarger-200 and Lybarger-56 appear to represent the same person because: Obvious same person
posted by Mel Green

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