Elizabeth Maria (Noude) Joubert
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Elizabeth Maria (Noude) Joubert (bef. 1792)

Elizabeth Maria Joubert formerly Noude aka Naude, Naudé
Born before in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
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Wife of — married 7 Mar 1819 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Colonymap
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Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Table Bay, South Africa (1762)
Elizabeth Maria (Noude) Joubert was part of the settlement of the Dutch Cape Colony.
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Biography

Name

Elizabeth [1] Maria [1] Naude [1] Joubert [1]

Birth

Date: before 9 Feb 1800 [1]
Place:

Baptism

Elizabeth Maria Noude
South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1792
Baptism Place: Stellenbosch, Cape of Good Hope, [South Africa]
Father's Name: David Noude
Mother's Name: Hester Joubert [2]

Marriage

Date: 7 Mar 1819 (- 1857) [3]
Place: Graaff Reinet, Cape Colony [3]
Groom: Josua Adriaan Petrus Joubert (Joubert-1222) [3]
Bride: Elizabeth Maria Naude [3]

Research Notes

  • Presuming that the current set of parents of this Elizabeth Maria Naude (born before 9 Feb 1800) are correct (it still has to be validated), it implies that the other sibling by a similar name Elizabeth Maria Naude (born before 12 Aug 1792) could not have married Josua Adriaan Petrus Joubert (1795 - 1875) and had Joubert-2077 and Joubert-2078 by him. So subsequent action was taken and the mother replaced with Naude-792. Van der Walt-440 05:44, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
  • b1c8 Carel NAUDE * 3.10.1758 = 22.10.1758, enigste Naude wat in Drakenstein geboer het, ook wamaker x “Roodesant”, dist. Tulbagh 4.4.1784 Elisabeth Catharina JOUBERT * 1766 = Paarl 19.10.1766 d. 25.5.1811 xx Graaff-Reinet 19.10.1818 Susanna Catharina JOUBERT [4]
    d2 Jacobus Petrus = 3.12.1786 x Stellenbosch 7.1.1819 Anna Elisabeth NAUDE (David- dg) [4]
    e1 Elisabeth Catharina * 1811 = Graaff-Reinet 8.7.1811 x Graaff-Reinet 28.12.1834 Johannes Stephanus DU TOIT [4]
  • b1c5 David NAUDE * 26.3.1753 = 8.4.1753 x 3.3.1776 Hester JOUBERT [4]
  • b1c5d7 Anna Elisabeth = 14.12.1788 x Stellenbosch 7.1.1819 Jacob Petrus NAUDE (Carel-sn) [4]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 WikiTree profile Naude-792 created by C V 21 October 2016. Source:
    • SOUTH AFRICAN GENEALOGIES by JA HEESE & RTJ LOMBARD
  2. Source:
    • "South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFRB-RFW : 17 August 2021), Elizabeth Maria Nonde, 12 Aug 1792, Baptism; citing p. , Stellenbosch, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa, State Archives, Cape Province; FHL microfilm 2,214,090.
    Added on 15 Sep 2021 by Ian McArthur
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Source:
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 Source:
    • Heese, J.A. & Lombard, R.T.J. South African Genealogies 1 Human Sciences Research Council, 1992, ISBN 0-620-23962-1 v.6 pp. 32-40" Added on 15 Sep 2021 by Ian McArthur




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Naudé-242 and Noude-6 do not represent the same person because: Different dates and parents
Baptism record added. No accent on the e.
posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Ian McArthur
Thanks Ian. I read Noude - same o as in Joubert and different to the 'a' in 'Maria' ....
posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Philip van der Walt
Please consider the following:

Is this not the same person as https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naud%C3%A9-242 (Naudé-242), birth record not yet found. David and Hester's daugther Johanna Petronella was baptised on 23 March 1800, her sister Helena Franssiena baptised 27 Sep 1802, biologically it is possible that there may have been another child in between them. As far as I can see there are baptisimal records for all the other children, why not this one? There is as far as I can see no definate indication that Elizabeth Maria born 1792 married Josua Adriaan Petrus Joubert, no death notice found yet, but if true, that exclude the re-use of the same name in 1800.

posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Jo Fourie
Thanks Jo, I have searched for her baptism but have found nothing yet. If the current set of parents for this profile is incorrect, my edits need to be undone (two child connections and one spousal connection reversed). In the mean time I have matched this profile with Naudé-242.
posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Philip van der Walt
The husband & children should be linked to her sister Naude-552? Can I proceed to do so?
posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Christelle van der Merwe
Yes please. Also - SAG might throw some light on the parents.
posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Philip van der Walt
edited by Philip van der Walt
Naude-552 and Naude-792 appear to represent the same person because: Same person, same birth date
posted on Naude-792 (merged) by Christelle van der Merwe

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