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Peter Noyes (bef. 1590 - 1657)

Peter Noyes aka Noyce
Born before in Charlton, Hampshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 18 Nov 1622 in Chieveley, Berkshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 67 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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Peter Noyes migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 243)
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Noyes family

For background information about Peter’s Noyes's family, click here.

For information on another Noyes family of the area, click here.

Biography

Peter Noyes was baptized 30 Aug 1590 in the Parish of Andover, Charlton, Hampshire, England, the youngest of five known children and the younger of two sons of Thomas Noyes and Dorothy UNKNOWN.[1]

Marriage and family

On 18 November 1622, in Chieveley, Berkshire (about 22 miles from Weyhill) when he was in his later twenties, he married Elizabeth Smith.[2][3] Elizabeth was buried at Weyhill 13 Feb. 1635/6. Children bpt at Weyhill:[1]
  1. Thomas Noyes, bpt 17 Nov 1623
  2. Elizabeth Noyes Haynes], born 19 Apr 1625
  3. Dorothy Noyes, bpt 23 April 1627
  4. Abigail Noyes bp 4 Feb 1628/9 m. Plympton
  5. Peter Noyes bpt 18 Jan 1630/1
  6. Joseph Noyes bpt 13 Jun 1633.

Nicholas Noyes was not a son of Peter. In 1652 Nicholas Noyes of Newbury testified that it was he who sailed on the Jonathan with Peter, not a mythical son Nicholas.[1]

Migration to Massachusetts Bay Colony

By 1637 Peter Noyes had heard news about New England. But however impressed, Peter displayed the shrewdness which characterized many of his later actions.
Peter Noyes chose this role deliberately. He was not 'harried out of the land.' Far from it. He took his steps cautiously but firmly; he had courage, and he had vision. He could have easily have remained with other members of his own family.
During the year 1637-38, he rented two of his four properties in Weyhill to his sister Dorothy, wife of John Waterman in Tangleu, Southampton, probably to gain money for his passage and expenses. Then taking 80 pounds from a Mrs. Agnes Bent in Weyhill, who wished to accompany him in due time, Peter sailed from Southampton on the ship Confidence, taking three servants, his eldest son and daughter, and his neighbor, John Bent. Noyes had not forgotten, however, to retain property near Andover, which paid him a yearly rent of about 20 pounds.
On the twenty-sixth of March, 1638, Peter Noyes, yeoman of the parish of Weyhill, Hampshire County, England, gave his land back to the Lord of the Manor. No longer would he help his Hampshire neighbors erect fences around the common fields in the spring or watch the plow teams turn furrows in the rich loam. Noyes had decided. He was taking his eldest son to visit New England in the expectation of moving his family from Weyhill forever.

Arrival

Note: The dates are confused. Noyes said to have arrived two weeks before he departed, embarking Southhampton 24 April 1638, and arriving Massachusetts 11 April. See below:
  • Peter arrived in Massachusetts on 11 April 1638.
Peter Noyce, Penton, Co. of Southn, Yeoman, age 47
Thomas Noyce, his sonne, age 15
Elizabeth Noyce, his daughter, no age given
Robert Davis, his servant, age 30
John Rutter, his servant, age 22
Margaret Davis, his servant, age 26.[4]
  • Peter Noyes, came in the Confidence, 1638, from Southampton, the latter part of April, aged 47, with son Thomas, 15; daughter Eliz. and three servants.
  • “Peter Noyce of Penton, Hants.," aged 47, embarked from Southampton on the Confidence on 24 April 1638, with his son, Thomas, 15 daughter, Elizabeth, and three servants. His servant Robert Davis, came in 1638, aged 30, in the Confidence of Southampton.[5]
Note: He is called 'yeoman' in the ship's passenger list, but is repeatedly mentioned in the records of this country as 'gentleman;' and the term 'Mr.' is often applied.
On arrival in Watertown in 1638, Noyes was granted plow land, meadow, upland, and an outlying of seventy acres. Impressed by the possibilities of the area, Noyes returned to Weyhill to dispose of all business.
He went home after a short visit or exploration in New England, well pleased with what he saw at Watertown. Noyes did not rush away impetuously. The next year he gathered his family, old Mrs. Bent, and a few others, then headed back to New England (Weyhill Rectory MMS. Indenture of P. Noyes, 1652; Middlesex County Court, Registry of Deeds, III 292-293; Middlesex County Probate Records, VIII, 425.)[6] in the Jonathan, with several friends, and Nicholas, Dorothy, Abigail, and Peter, all probably his children, and a distant cousin, Nicholas Noyes beside John Waterman, Richard Barnes, William Street, Agnes Bent, Eliz. Plimpton, and Agnes Blanchard, which I judge to be his servants as he paid for their passages; but such was not Agnes Bent, for she paid for herself, for daughter Agnes, Thomas Blanchard's w. with her h. and Richard Barnes, s. of said Blanchard's w. and prob. Eliz. Plimpton. Blanchard's w. with inf. d. on the passage, 15 days out, and Barnes's gr. mo. d. this side of the Banks.[7]
From the town records, there is a list of the early grantees or settlers, who went to the Sudbury Plantation about 1638 or 1639, including Mr. Peter Noyse [8]
Note: The Court having granted the request for a plantation at Sudbury, allowed the petitioners to go on with their work, and appointed a committee to establish the bounds and make an allotment of land, as set forth by the following record:
"At Gennall Court held at Boston the 6th Day of the 7th Month, a 1638 [Sept. 6, 1638].
"The petitioners Mr Pendleton, Mr Noyse, Mr Brown, and Company, are allowed to go on in their plantation, and such as are associated to them and Lift. Willard, Thomas Bro [Brown] and Mr John Oliver are to set out the bounds of the said plantation and they are alowed 4s a day, each of them and Mr John Oliver 5 shs a day, to bee borne by the new plantation. And the petitioners are to take care that in their alotments of land they have respect as well to men's estates and abilities to improve their lands, as to their number of persons; and if any difference fall out the Court or the counsell shall order it." (Colony Records, Vol. I, p.238)
Note: William, came in the Jonathan, 1639, and exc. that Peter Noyes of Sudbury paid for his pass. whereby it might be judg. that he brot. him as a serv. no more is known.[9]
Note: John Waterman, a passenger in the Jonathan, arrived at Boston 1639, of wh. I kn. no more but that his pass. was paid by Peter Noyes of Sudbury, and therefore we may suppose him a serv.[10]

Chronology

Note: The officials known as "highway surveyors" had charge of repairs on town roads. This term was early applied, and has continued in use until now. As early in the records as 1639, Peter Noyes and John Parmenter are mentioned as surveyors for Sudbury, Middlesex Co., MA.[11]
On 4 September 1639 in Sudbury, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts, the early land divisions were made, on permission of the Colonial Court, by such commissioners as the town or court might apoint.e.g., "A Generall Court, holden at Boston the 4th Day of the 7th month 1639.4 Sep 1639.
"The order of the Court, upon the petition of the inhabitants of Sudbury, is, that Peter Noyes, Bryan Pendleton, J [John] Parmm, [Parmenter], Edmond B [Brown], Walter Hayne, George Moning, and Edmond Rise have comission to lay out lands to the p'sent inhabitants, according to their estates and persons and that Capt Jeanison, Mr Mayhewe, Mr Flint, Mr Samuel Sheopard, and John Bridge, or any 3 of them, shall, in convenient time, repaire to the said towne and set out such land and accommodations, both for house-lots and otherwise, both for Mr Pelham and Mr Walgrave, as they shall think suitable to their estates, to bee reserved for them if they shall come to inhabite them in convenient time, as the Court shall think [fit]."[12]
Nearly fifteen years later, a dispute concerning money left in Peter Noyes's hands at the time of his embarkation brought forth a dozen depositions describing his actions, and those of his neighbors, in England. Peter himself testified, as did others who had lived in the vicinity of Andover and Penton Grafton, Hampshire.
Mr. Noyes was a freeman May 13, 1640, a selectman eighteen years, and represented the town at the General Court in 1640, '41 and '50.
Noyes was destined to be a founder of a New England town, a leader of men in every sense of the word. As such, he was to be responsible for over six hundred and fifty separate 'orders,' carrying the weight of law and often of power of life and death over his townsmen. For a yeoman from a small West Country village, this was an awesome challenge.
On Nov. 13, 1644, in Concord, Middlesex Co., MA, Herbert Pelham, Esq., of Cambridge, Mr. Thomas Fling and Lt. Simon Willard of Concord, and Mr. Peter Noyes of Sudbury, were appointed commissioners "to set some order which may conduce to the better surveying, improving, and draining of the meadows, and saving and preserving of the bay there gotten, either by draining the same, or otherwise, and to proportion the charges layed out about it as equally and justly (only upon them quarter-clerk) are the only ones now extant.[13]
In 1648 in Sudbury, Middlesex Co., Mass, Peter Noyes was "to see people ioyne in mariage in Sudbury." (Colonial Records, p.97.)[14]
In 1655 in Sudbury, Middlesex Co., Maass, the pastor and Mr. Noyes were empowered "to appoint a man to remove the pulpit and the deacons' seat out of the old meeting house into the new meeting house."[15]
Ensign Peter Noyes, of Sudbury, was then engaged by the grantees and he began the survey but his death, on September 23, 1657, delayed the speedy accomplishment of the work. It is known that there was some trouble in the early settlement of the place, growing out of the question of lands, but its exact character is not recorded; perhaps it was owing to the delay which now occurred. Ensign Noyes was a noted surveyor, but not so famous as Capt. Jonathan Danforth-29 (1628-1712), whose name is often mentioned in the General Court records, in connection with the laying out of lands and towns, and many of whose plans are still preserved among the Archives in the State House. Danforth was the man wanted at first for the undertaking; and after Noye's death he took charge of it. [16]
On 23 September 1657, when he was in his mid-sixties, Peter died of unknown causes in Sudbury, Middlesex County, Massachusetts Bay Colony.[16][1] Three years before his death he gave his estate in England to his son Thomas. The day before his death he made a will in which he made his son Thomas his executor, and named the following other children: Peter, Joseph, Elizabeth (wife of Josiah Haynes), Dorothy (wife of John Haynes), Abigail (wife of Thomas Plympton), his daughter-in-law Mary (wife of his son Thomas), and his kinsman Shadrach Hapgood.[17] The Noyeses have lived in various parts of the town. The mill on the west side was built by them (see period 1650-75) Prominent members of the family are buried in the Old Burying Ground, Wayland.'[18]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Reed, Paul C. and Smith, Dean Crawford. "The English Ancestry of Peter1 Noyes. New England Historical and Genealogical RegisterVol 152: 259-285. Peter pp 283, 284. Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
  2. The American Genealogist, vol. 90 no. 1 (January 2018): 24-34. "The Ancestry of Elizabeth (Smith) Noyes, wife of Peter1 Noyes of Sudbury Massachusetts," by Leslie Mahler and Nathan W. Murphy.
  3. "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch [1] : 10 February 2018), Petrus Noyse and Elisabetha Smith, 18 Nov 1622; citing Chieveley,Berkshire,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 254,496.
  4. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. (Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889), p28. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana.
  5. Savage, Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England. (Broderbund, 1994) v.4 p. 21
  6. Powell, Sumner. Puritan Village: The Formation of a New England Town. Chilton Publication: 1963. pp. 1-3
  7. Savage, Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England. (Broderbund, 1994) v.3, p.228.
  8. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. (Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889), p26. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana.
  9. Savage, Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England. (Broderbund, 1994) v.4 p. 223.
  10. Savage, Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England. (Broderbund, 1994) v.4 p. 431
  11. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. (Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889), p89. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana.
  12. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. (Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889), p 105. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana.
  13. A History of the Town of Concord MA. Shattuck, Lemuel. Publication: Russell, Odiorne, & Co., Concord, MA, 1835. Family History Library, 35 W Temple City: Salt Lake City, Utah, pp. 15-16
  14. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. (Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889), p90. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana.
  15. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana. p.190
  16. 16.0 16.1 Bay State Monthly, A Massachusetts Magazine.'’ John N. McClintock and Co, Boston, 1884-1885. Volume 1, 1884; "The Boundary LInes of Old Groton" by the Hon. Samuel Abbott Green, MD; pgs 278-284; pgs. 337-344. Hathitrust
  17. “Probate records v. 1-3 1654-1673”, database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9D5-B31F : 5 May 2023) or (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99D5-BPG6  : Transcribed), FHL microfilm 007554513, image 68-70, Middlesex, Massachusetts, Vol 1, 1654-1661.
  18. Hudson, Alfred Sereno.The History of Sudbury, Massachusetts. 1638-1889. (Boston: R.H. Blodgett, 1889), pp31-32. Allen County Public Library, Ft Wayne, Indiana.

See Also.

  • Bay State Monthly, A Massachusetts Magazine.'’ John N. McClintock and Co, Boston, 1884-1885. URL: HathiTrust
  • Reed, Paul C., and Dean Crawford Smith. URL: [2] Dorothy ______, the Key in Our Search for Shadrack Hapgood]. New England Historical and Genealogical Register, v. 150 (1996), pp. 141-156.
  • Shattuck, Lemuel. A History of the Town of Concord MA. (Concord, MA: Russell, Odiorne, & Co., 1835). Family History Library, 35 W Temple City: Salt Lake City, Utah.




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I'm tired of fighting Peter Noyes' battles. I divest my interest as profile manger.
posted by Rolland Rice Jr.
Editorial meta-comments, after reading this bio again today:
  1. There are too many Notes in our bio for Peter Noyes, which interrupt the flow of the reader. Some of them are clunky. It feels like multiple WikiTreers may be disagreeing with each other in co-editing. Suggestion, if our original source materials or later secondary sources disagree on matters of fact, we should just state that clearly for the reader and posterity.
  2. There is an usual amount of assertion and "adverbing" (with big-ly emphases) in this profile biography, where the WikiTree writer(s) makes claims about the unknowable thoughts and claimed state of mind of Peter Noyes. WikiTree is probably not the forum for this type of guessing, is it? For example:
  • "Peter Noyes chose this role deliberately. He was not 'harried out of the land.' Far from it. He took his steps cautiously but firmly; he had courage, and he had vision." Who says? :-)
  • "Impressed by the possibilities of the area, Noyes returned to Weyhill to dispose of all business. He went home after a short visit or exploration in New England, well pleased with what he saw at Watertown. Noyes did not rush away impetuously." Who says? :-)
  • "Noyes was destined to be a founder of a New England town, a leader of men in every sense of the word." Who says? :-) (Followed by "[...] For a yeoman from a small West Country village, this was an awesome challenge." So, is he a leader of men, or not up to the challenge? )

The tone of the bio writing varies significantly from paragraph to paragraph, in some cases drifting into shorthand and anachronistic contractions, perhaps from earlier writers (ie earlier centuries). Have we perhaps copied-and-pasted the bulk of this bio, without formatting and punctuating it to make that clear to our readers? (Or to me?) I see the in-line citations in some place... but missing from many others.

In general if entire paragraphs or multi-paragraph sections of the bio are going to be copied-and-pasted from secondary sources, can we introduce the writer, book and date etc, and set off with block quote, italics or quotation marks?

It might explain why there are so many Notes (from WikiTreers) interspersed in the bio, if most of the bio is earlier work we're correcting along the way. This might also explain the slightly-off tone, and assertions of state of mind etc.

Thoughts?

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Isaac, if you can improve the flow of the narrative, by all means, go for it.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Is there any known relation between Peter of Sudbury, and Nicholas of Newbury? I see they are, best we know, from different places in England; and I don't see an immediate intersection within the first couple generations above.
posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
However, I see their descendants (grandchildren-ish) inter-marry. But that could just be coincidence because Mass. is small?

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Connection&action=connect&person1Name=Noyes-54&person2Name=Noyes-239&relation=0&ignoreIds=

WikiTree is not currently aware of a common paternal ancestor.

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
This is a tantalizing question that actually came up around the time of the filming of PBS's witch trial re-creation, "Three Sovereigns for Sarah" almost 40 years ago.

Rev. Samuel Parris, the minister at the center of the original accusations (first made by his daughter), went from being the unpopular interim pastor in Stow -- which adjoins Sudbury -- to being the fulltime pastor in Salem Village (less populated, and less prestigious, than adjoining Salem Town). Parris may have had a personal connection to Peter Noyes of Sudbury. The minister in Salem Town? Rev. Nicholas Noyes [a character played, and researched, by yrs. truly]. Did Peter Noyes have some (familial) influence in Parris's beneficial "upgrade" to the fulltime position? We just don't know.

A purely circumstantial, and very tenuous, possibility, and not something that can help address the genealogical issue. But it is intriguing.

posted by Christopher Childs
Note the claim that, on his return from a 1639 trip back to England, Peter Noyes traveled on the same ship as a Nicholas Noyes: "Ancestors in Aprons", https://ancestorsinaprons.com/tag/peter-noyes/.

Note also that, as sidelight to Isaac Taylor's broader comment above, a granddaughter of Peter Noyes -- Dorothy (Noyes) [Brown] Parris -- was the second wife of Rev. Samuel Parris... who, again, was a primary instigator of the witch trial debacle, and a colleague of Rev. Nicholas Noyes of Salem Town. (This marriage is reported in Genealogical Record of Some of the Noyes Descendants of James Nicholas and Peter Noyes, by Henry Erastus Noyes and Harriette Eliza Noyes, Boston, Mass. 1904, p. 227; https://archive.org/details/genealogicalreco002noye/page/226/mode/2up.)

The likelihood of family kinship between Peter Noyes and Nicholas Noyes seems very high.

posted by Christopher Childs
edited by Christopher Childs
I looked into the later inter-marriage tonight, Christopher. We have some problems with the dates on those profiles. I left comments you may be interested in, here on Wait Sr and here at G2G.

Your personal research into these characters for your role may be helpful. You may also enjoy the recent photos of their debatably-haunted house in Wayland.

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
To your point about kinship between Peter and Nicholas, regardless of common ancestry, they are DIRECTLY connected in Mass.

That link is more direct than it may appear, as the Haynes family is also 1/2 Noyes, twice over:

There are at least 5 marriages between Noyes-Haynes descendants, visible here on Walter's page (click Descendants).

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Chris,

Few follow-ups:

1) Note the connection between a) Rev. Nicholas 'the Younger' Noyes, Rev. Samuel Parris & Judge Danforth-44, the Deputy Governor, regarding Salem Village witch trials; and b) again between Judge Danforth, his brother Capt. Danforth, and Peter Noyes regarding land surveying, and "gold rush" mentality of setting up Concord/Sudbury/Wayland and other towns. I will avoid the tangent about "peculiar persons" pioneering what is now Carlisle downriver from Concord, and not paying taxes to the church. And the violence resulting. We'll come back to that another time.

2) While I must be careful to avoid pointing undeserved/accusing fingers at legendary forefathers, there's something unseemly about these interconnections, given the number of large landowners who were killed solely due to accused by Rev. Parris own daughter, and his coerced (beaten into false confession, then coached) enslaved servant, Tituba. It's noteworthy it didn't stop until the accusing-faction falsely accused Rev. Hale's wife -- also a Noyes BTW... Hale, of Beverly, was by that point opposed to the whole fiasco.

3) It's hard not to notice the dynamic of the established towns (with money and power) vs the new villages between (with land and opportunity). Of course the ministers, surveyors and those charged with arranging acreage had enormous power. Over everyone.

4) Check out Wikipedia on Rev. Nicholas Noyes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Noyes

It's an interesting read. As is his father's bio here Noyes-239. I am no expert in these families, or even genealogy. But...

5) This collection of seemingly-unrelated-facts caught my eye, in context of our thread here. Is there a pattern? Motive? This is not in chronological order, so you'll have to keep straight who's-who & when:

  • "[Nicholas Sr.] was uncommonly close to his older brother. It is unclear whether Nicholas emigrated for purely religious reasons or as much for filial affection for his older brother [James] and cousin [PARKER]." There are other quotes about that relationship that are worth re-reading carefully; more below, later. The author is saying a lot, without saying too much... methinks.
  • Note the Ann Parker-37518 connection, above Rev. James Noyes and Deac. Nicholas 'the Elder' Noyes, who travelled with their inseparable cousin Rev. Parker
  • Note that Sarah Brown(e) AKA Goody Noyes inherits two large estates from her brother James (bachelor, 8th wealthiest man in town) and her husband... James Noyes.
  • Peter Noyes dies suddenly of "unexplained causes" in the middle of the big survey/Sudbury project, but is well enough to write/sign a will the day before.
  • Because of this, Peter Noyes is replaced (as surveyor, ie critical to the picking and giving of land grants) by Judge Danforth's brother, Capt. Danforth said to have been the preferred agent all along. Interesting. Peter was apparently considered slow to get his work done, which is perhaps understandable given his age...
  • Noted without comment, these 3 deaths in less than a year?
  1. Rev. James Noyes d. Oct 1656 (age 48)
  2. James Browne d. 'Abt. 1656, Portsmouth(?)' (aged 48)
  3. Peter Noyes d. Sep 1657 (age 67).
  • Note when Sarah dies... Sep 1691. Remember she has inherited 2 big estates; her own is £1108 !!
  • Get this: "Vital Records of Newbury does not contain an entry for her death[7] and the Essex County Probate Index does not contain any entry for her will or estate records.[8]" This is inexplicable. The records are really good in Essex & this is an enormous, notable, important inheritance. Eyebrow raised?
  • When her husband died, he unusually cut his children out of the will and left it all to his wife, as long as she remained unmarried: "Sarah's husband James Noyes made a simplified will a few days before his death in 1656. In his will, instead of making specific bequests to his wife and children, he gave full control over his estate (valued at over £597) to his wife so long as she remained unmarried, which she did until her death.[5][4]" How did their children feel about that? She outlived him by 30 years... where did the money go, we have to wonder? When she she died, she had grandchildren who still hadn't inherited anything from Grandpa? Or Grand-Uncle? Or Grandma? She may have had great-grandchildren alive, even.
  • Back to the unusually close relationship between Nicholas Noyes (Sr.) and cousin Parker: "In the same ship [as James Noyes, in 1634] came Mr. Thomas Parker, and a younger brother of [James], Mr. Nicholas Noyes, who was then a single man; between which there was more than ordinary endearment of affection, which was never shaken or broken but by death."
  • And after a year apart, preaching in remote towns, then: "[C]alling Mr. Noyes to be the teacher of it, he preferred that place; being loath to be separated from Mr. Parker...""
  • And on personality and comportment: "Notwithstanding his principles, as to discipline, were something differing from many of his bretheren, there was such condescension on both parts"
  • OK, so the rich widow dies fall 1691. There's no record of her death, her will, or her estate. Guess what happens next?
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials Feb 1692

6) Lastly, Chris, going back to 1630s for your favorite topic:

  • "In 1638 Nicholas sailed back to England, perhaps to settle family affairs and to report on conditions in Massachusetts Bay. He returned to New England on the Jonathan which sailed from London soon after 12 Apr. 1639..."
  • "Also on the Jonathan were Anthony Somerby of Newbury and Mr. Peter Noyes of Sudbury, who, having come over on the Confidence in 1638 at age 47, found New England to his liking, and had returned home to Penton, near Andover, Hampshire to get his family. Peter was undoubtedly one of Nicholas' relatives.[6] [2]"
posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Removed link thank you.
posted by Anne B
Heads up profile managers:

The link in the bio blurb about Nicholas Noyes now goes to the wrong person. His actual son. So that's confusing for readers of this profile because it's implying that Nicholas is Noyes-310 (which is the exact opposite of what your're saying in the text).

posted by Isaac Taylor
I believe that Torrey was simply mistaken about ?Abigail. The NEHGR articles list only the first wife Elizabeth. She was the mother of his children. I think she should probably get merged into Elizabeth

Nicholas was not a son, and should be merged away into one of the other children or one of the other Nicholas' (see bio)

Objections? Thoughts?

posted by Anne B
Found this on profile of son: New England Marriages prior to 1700; Clarence Almon Torrey; 1985; Baltimore; p.541... This same page also lists a marriage for another Peter Noyes to Abigail ..., also in Sudbury,
posted by Jillaine Smith
Noyes-54 and Noyes-1160 appear to represent the same person because: same name, actually both came from Weyhill so similar birth info. Also similar death info. Please merge. These are undoubtedly the same person. Actully Noyes-1160 should be merged into Noyes-54.
posted by [Living Prickett]
Noyes-54 and Noyes-1160 appear to represent the same person because: same name, actually both came from Weyhill so similar birth info. Also similar death info. Please merge. These are undoubtedly the same person. Actully Noyes-1160 should be merged into Noyes-54.
posted by [Living Prickett]
This profile has had a few stabs at tidying, but it is still the basic gedcom import, and needs some work including looking at the wife situation, which is not even addressed in the bio. Anyone want to jump in?
posted by Anne B
Neither the NEHGR vol 152 article on Peter Noyes nor extract of his will in the Sudbury, MA archives (sudbury.ma.us/archiveimages/2641.htm) contain a reference to Abigail that I can find other than a bequest to his daughter Abigail Plimpton; the extract of his will doesn't seem to mention a spouse at all.

The marriage to Elizabeth Unknown comes from NEHGR vol 152 page but says only circa 1621/22 and does not quote a parish register entry for the marriage, only for her burial 13 Feb 1635/36 at Weyhill before Peter emigrated.

posted by Brad Stauf
What sources show his spouse(s) name(?)
posted by S (Hill) Willson

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