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Johanna (Unknown) Pinney (1582 - aft. 1632)

Johanna "Johane" Pinney formerly [surname unknown]
Born in Broadway, Somerset, Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after after age 50 [location unknown]
Profile last modified | Created 11 Oct 2010
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Biography

Joanna (or Johane or Johanna) was the wife of John Pinney and mother of several children, including Humphrey Pinney, who was baptized in Hardington-Mandeville, Somerset, England, on 20 November 1605. [1] The will of Edmond Pinny of Brodwaye in the County of Somerset, yeoman, written 7 December 1631, mentions her as Johane, the wife of his brother John Pynney.[2]

Her maiden name is not known, and no other information is available for her.

This WikiTree profile (Hawkins-230) was created in October 2010 with the name Johanna Hawkins and indications that she was born in 1582 in Broadway, a village north of Chard in south Somerset, England, and died in 1632. No sources were cited for this information. As a result of a later merge with profile UNKNOWN-89097, those details were incorrectly attributed to The Great Migration Begins, but that book does not give any such details. The birth date may be an estimate that she was a few years past 20 years old at the birth of her first child, and the death date of 1632 may be only an indication that she was alive as of the 7 December 1631 date of Edmond Pinney's will.

From her husband John Pinney's will:

"Item. as touching my wife with whom I coupled my self in the feace of God I give and bequeath unto her Twenty poundes of good and lawfull money of England foure Kyne one mare and the halfendeale of all my household stuffe"

Note: her name is not given in the will.

Sources

  1. Anderson, The Great Migration Begins (page 1480.
  2. Elizabeth French, citing PCC Awdley 10] [Index at findmypast: 17 Audley; extracted from the principal registry of the probate divorce and admiralty division of the high court of justice in the PCC (Prerogative Court of Canterbury), Document references Vol. 27; Record set Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999]
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633. (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, 1995)
  • French, Elizabeth. "Genealogical Research in England", New England Historical and Genealogical Register, volume 63, January 1909, pages 32-42. page 41, free at Google Books. Republished in English Origins of New England Families: From the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (1984).




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posted by S (Hill) Willson
Please remove the surname Hawkins. Joanna's maiden name is unknown. "Anderson's Great Migration In Memories Section -Unknown maiden name for Humphreys mother Joanna.

Anderson's Great Migration Study of Humphrey Pinney:

BIRTH: Baptized Hardington-Mandeville, Somerset, 20 November 1605, son of John and Joanna (___) Pinney [M&JCH 17:118 (this baptismal date was published without full documentation; as the register for this parish apparently does not exist prior to 1687, this date may come from Bishops’ Transcripts; confirmation of this would be welcome)]

posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by Katherine Cappon
Yes, by rights the name of the wife of John Pinney is Joanna Unknown, but (probably because the human mind abhors a vacuum), members associated her with a woman named Joanna Hawkins who I suspect might have existed. When I adopted this orphan profile, 6 years ago, I naively hoped that the profile creators could be induced to explain their evidence, but I suppose it's time to give up waiting.

Critical parish registers may be lacking, but there are other documents about this family (see Pinney Family Notes) that may be available to researchers on the ground in Somerset, Devon, and Dorset, so it is possible that some family relationships (possibly including relationships claimed in the profiles contributed in the early days of WikiTree) can be found or confirmed.

posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by Ellen Smith
Joanna didn't marry multiple men named John Pinney, but several WikiTree members have given WikiTree unsourced profiles that appear to be intended to represent Joanna and her husband. Some of those profiles have been merged as duplicates, but others still exist. Two different John Pinney profiles are currently connected to this profile as her husband; a third profile Pynney-2 probably represents the same man and is connected to a wife named Joanna Sherwin who may be this same woman. Sources are needed to help determine how many different real people are represented by these different profiles.
posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by Ellen Smith
Hello, can you please address in profile how she married two John Pinney's? If she didn't marry them both please remove the incorrect one. Thank you!
posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by Teresa Downey
posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by Ellen Smith
There are multiple profiles for John Pinney who was married to Johanna, and one of the other profiles has a different wife, namely Johanna Sherwin. I don't see documentation for either woman's full name. However, this woman, born in 1582, seems too young to be the wife of John Pinney born in 1551 or 1558 (depending on which profiles you look at).
posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by Ellen Smith
In Great Migration Begins, Vol 3, page 1480, Anderson shows Humphrey Pinney's parents as John and Joanna (____) Pinney.

Here, I notice that her name "Hawkins" uses Anderson as the source. Can you point me to where Anderson says that, please?

This is the start of a long and largely unsourced line to Saher de Quincy. I'm looking for proof that her son was actually a "Gateway", as he does not appear so in sources.

Thanks

posted on Hawkins-230 (merged) by PM Eyestone

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