Profile Represents Captain Joseph Collins (1687-1757) who m. Susannah Lewis (1792), presumed son of Joseph Collins and an unknown first wife.
Sources
No original source records have been located to confirm birth or marriage records. It appears that some erroneous information may have been published, and perhaps republished/reported, making the “actual facts” obscure. There is a great deal of conflicting information surrounding the Collins Family of Essex – Many Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; conflicting family stories; number of Collin’s with the same names, etc.
Joseph Collins (aka Captain Joseph Collins) was born about 1687-1688 in Isle of Wight, Virginia. He is believed to be the son of Joseph Collins (1668–1748) and possibly Catherine Robertson (1668–1728) [1]
He married Susanna Lewis, born about 1792 in Spotsylvania, Virginia.
Children
11 Identified Children Named in Will - Estimated Births 1708 -1763
(plus grand daughter Amy Collins and wife Susanna Collins)[2]
Spotsylvania formed 1720-1 from Essex, King & Queen, King William
Caroline formed 1727-8 from Essex, King & Queen, King William
1737: Essex Co., VA, May 16, 1737. Joseph Collins, planter, sold to Nicholas Pampline 200 acres in Essex & King & Queen Co. for £60 & 2000 lbs. tobacco. Wife Susanna didn't relinquish dower right until June 19, 1739.
1738: Essex Co., VA, January 17, 1738. Court ordered that Philip Gatewood pay Joseph 495 lbs tobacco for twice coming & returning 7 miles from Spotsylvania Co. & for attending 3 days as an evidence for him against Thomas Johnson in a suit for assault & battery.
1741: Spotsylvania Co., VA, April 14, 1741. John Robertson sold Joseph 400 acres in the forks of the Po River for £20.
1743: Spotsylvania Co., VA, December 6, 1743. Joseph produced Governor's commission and took the oath as lieutenant of horse troops under Capt. Joseph Hawkins.
Residence (1745, 1752, 1754, 1756, 1759) Land Sales Transactions Spotsylvania,
1745: John Robertson sold 254 acres in the fork and on the north side of the Po River on May 14, 1745 to Joseph Collins, grandson, for £15. Joseph operated a mill on this land and kept the road open by direction of county court.
1750: Spotsylvania Co., VA, November 6, 1750. Joseph was presented commission and took the oath as Captain of a company of foot militia in Spotsylvania Co.
1754: Spotsylvania Co., VA, November 5, 1754. Joseph Collins gave 270 acres on both sides of Robertson River to John Collins for love & affection.
1756: Spotsylvania Co., VA, December 6, 1756. Joseph Collins and wife, Susanna, sold 275 acres to Aaron Quesenburey for £50. [Crozier]
Joseph's will is dated August 27, 1757 and was recorded in Spotsylvania County, Virginia:
Proven November 1, 1757: Spotsylvania Co., VA, Tuesday,
The Last Will And Testament Of Joseph Collins
I, Joseph Collins, of the County of Spotsylvania ... do make this last will and testament ... I give and bequeath in the following manner.
Item: I give unto my grand daughter Amy Collins one cow and calf and the sum of £5, to be paid unto her when she shall arrive at the age of 21 or on the day of her marriage. Item: I lend unto my beloved wife Susanna Collins my whole Estate both Real and Personal for and during the term of her widowhood, and after her marriage or death it is my will and desire that my Executors hereafter named do sell my whole Estate both real and personal, at public auction, and I do hereby give the money arising by the sale of my land to be equally divided between my four sons: James Collins, William Collins, Thomas Collins and Lewis Collins ... and out of the money arising by the sale of my other Estate, I give the sum of £10 to each of my daughters, Ann Wisdom, Mary Brockman, Susanna Gholson, Tabitha Gatewood, Drucilla Cook and Caty Glaze ... and if any thing remains after such legacys are paid, I give the same to be equally divided between my children: John Collins, James Collins, William Collins, Thomas Collins, Lewis Collins, Ann Wisdom, Mary Brockman, Susanna Gholson, Tabitha Gatewood, Drucilla Cook, and Caty Glaze.
Item: I do hereby Ordain Constitute and Appoint my sons: John Collins Sr., James Collins, William Collins, Thomas Collins, and Lewis Collins executors of this my last Will and Testament, hereby revoking all other Wills by me heretofore made and declaring this to be my Last Will and Testament.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my Hand and Seal this 27th day of August, 1757.
1757: Spotsylvania Co., VA, Tuesday, November 1, 1757. At a Court held in this county on this date the Will of Joseph Collins was established byJohn Collins Sr. and Thomas Collins, two of the executors herein named and was proved by the oaths of Robert Gains and Richard Long two of the Witnesses thereto ... it is ordered to be recorded. Test: Wm. Waller, County Clerk, Robert R. Gains and Richard Long. Source: Spotsylvania Co., VA, Will Book C, p. 329. At the time of Joseph's death, his son, James, was already in North Carolina.[3]
1757: Spotsylvania Co., VA, November 1, 1757. John Collins Sr., Thomas Collins, John Collins Jr., and Edward Collins are held and firmly bound to ... the Court of Spotsylvania Co. in the sum of £1,000, to the payment whereof ... we bind ourselves ... jointly and severally ... The condition of the obligation is such that if the above bound John Collins Sr. and Thomas Collins, executors of Joseph Collins, deceased, do make or cause to be made, a true and perfect inventory of all and singular goods, chattels and credits of the said deceased ... do exhibit and tender ... into the County Court of Spotsylvania at such time as they shall be thereunto required ... according to law, and further do make a just and true account ... and deliver all the legacy's contained and specified in the said testament as far as the said goods, chattles and credits ... then this obligation to be void. Otherwise, to remain in full force and notice. Sealed and Delivered: John Collins Sr., Thomas Collins, John Collins Jr., and Edward Collins. Ack'd this their bond in said court to be their act and deed and is admitted to the record. (John Collins Sr. and Thomas Collins, his brother, gave bond as executors, withJohn's sons John Collins Jr. and Edward Collins acting as guarantors. [They all would have been required to be of legal age, which was 21 at the time.]
1758: Spotsylvania Co., VA, March 8, 1758. At a Court continued and held ... the appraisement of the Estate of Joseph Collins, dec'd, is returned and admitted to the Record. Test. Wm. Waller, County Clerk.
1758: Spotsylvania Co., VA, March 9, 1758. At a Court held for ... James Collins, heir at law to Joseph Collins, dec'd, failing to appear and contest the validity of the testator's will and proclamation being made according to law, it is Ordered to be recorded. Test. Wm. Waller, County Clerk.
COLLINS, JOSEPH, Spotsylvania Co., d. Aug. —, 1757, p. Nov. 1, 1757.
Wit. Joseph Brock, Robert Gains, Richard Long. Ex. sons, John, James,
William, Thomas and Lewis Collins. Leg. granddaughter, Amey Collins;
wife, Susannah Collins, to have estate real and personal, during her
widowhood, at re-marriage, to be sold at auction and the money arising
from the sale to be divided among sons James, William, Thomas, Lewis
Collins, and daughters Ann Wisdom, Mary Brockman, Susannah Golson,
Tabitha Gatewood, Drucilla Cook and Caty Glass. (Page 329) [3]
Death/Probate
Will Dated August 27, 1757: Spotsylvania Co., VA, Spotsylvania Co. Records,
Contemporary Profiles frequently containing co-mingled data on the various "Joseph's, Richards, etc., (see individual profiles for more detailed information). See Also Collins Family Research Notes
Dates - There are wide variations in the birthdate for Joseph Collins, between 1677-1708
Name/Spelling Variations - Jr., Sr., I; II; III, Capt, Lt. etc., No proven Middle names for anyone. It appears Mother's maiden name was used in several instances (Fixed: checked 'no middle name' and removed nickname of Robinson as primary sources support that )
Contemporary
Unsupported Child - Not Named in Will -- Not a son of Joseph Collins and Susannah Lewis (frequently mis-attached) Fixed- he is now only attached to Susannah Lewis as her husband, not her son.
We can't make you feel confident about whether This Profile represents a direct DNA connect (only DNA can do that) ; We can assure you the final sources found are applicable/accurate as possible, and the Profile connections are based upon the sources and their content
(Discrepancy quotes This is erroneous. He's not the son of Catherine Robertson and her husband." This proven by comparing their birthdates, not by a DNA discrepancy, She was removed as his mother. I am not sure of the "proven by DNA" comment above refers only to his mother or both of his parents. I would love to learn more about the Collins DNA research. ~ Erik Granstrom, Feb. 6th, 2021. "
Notes
In the book by Goodridge, Paul F. "William Brockman Bankhead" Page Publishing, Incorporated: 2015. (Summary: William Brockman Bankhead’s heritage was traced to sixteen family branches established by each of his individual great great-grandparents) there is some information about the Collins family from Isle of Wight which may be useful as there is a marriage connection between the Brockman and Collins families in Spotsylvania, Virginia. Specifically, the author discusses the parentage of Captain John Collins . He writes that John Collins he is the son of Joseph Collins (1668–1748) and Catherine Robertson (1668–1728)
Likely the discrepancy was a result of mis-attached descendant information
You are right/ There is a mis-match on the DNA here, because Joe Creed Collins and John Carlton Collins who both show as direct paternal descendants of Joseph "Robinson" Collins who married Susannah Lewis are different Y Haplogroups. That indicates Joe Creed Collins or John Carlton Collins likely has a misattributed father in his direct paternal line. Their most recent common direct paternal ancestor is Edward Collins Sr. I hope that more Collins males from this line who have Y DNA tested will join WikiTree to help solve the mystery. Terri Stern 3 Nov 2021
Non Applicable
Additional information:
Joseph was the paternal sixth great-grandfather of Tallulah Bankhead
(Collins|Old Thomas Collins was not the son of Joseph Collins and Susannah Lewis)
Footnotes
Links are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable /unproven unless sources are contained within).:
[2][5][3]
↑ Goodridge, Paul F. "William Brockman Bankhead" Page Publishing, Incorporated: 2015. Summary: William Brockman Bankhead’s heritage was traced to sixteen family branches established by each of his individual great great-grandparents. Includes Family Info on the Collins family of Isle of Wight).
↑ Spotsylvania, VA County Records, Will Book B, pp. 329 & 343. Vol. 1, Spotsylvania County, by William A. Crozier, Published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, Baltimore, 1971, page 15.
"Spotsylvania County records, 1721-1800," digital images, Ancestry.com, Will Book B1749-1759, p 10, Joseph Collins will dtd Aug 1757, prob 1 Nov 1757. [Crozier,] p. 20 SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY RECORDS 1721 -1800)
Crozier, William Armstrong, ed. Virginia County Records: Spotsylvania County 1721 - 1800. New York, N.Y: Fox, Duffield & Co., 1905])
"Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850," database, Ancestry.com, Joseph & wife Susannah Collins, 2 Nov 1756 Spotsylvania Co Land Record. Spotsylvania County Records Google Books (searchable)
See Also
McAllister, John Meriwether and Lura Boulton Tandy, Editors. Genealogies of the Lewis and Kindred Families (Columbia, Missouri: J W Stephens Publishing Company, 1906), pp 132-154, Zachary Lewis and sons Zachary and John [1]
Sources for items not specifically sourced above: 1) Orange Co. VA Families, Vol. III by William Everett Brockman, 1965, and 2) The Robertson Family of Culpeper Co., VA by John Frederick Dorman, 1964.
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Collins-36430 and Collins-1594 appear to represent the same person because: clear duplicates - Collins-1594 shows his will proven in 1757 so that should be the death year, not 1767 - Unsourced. Please Merge as there are too-many duplicate Collins profiles on WT.
Collins-20708 and Collins-1594 are not ready to be merged because: Children does not match up with Will. Result merger will be a larger family than records indicate.
Collins-20708 and Collins-1594 appear to represent the same person because: Please Approve - Duplicate Profile - combine children to Lowest LNAB Collins-1594
Thank you for your assistance in maintaining 1 profile per person
Collins-8926 and Collins-1594 appear to represent the same person because: Please approve merge of Collins-8926 to Collins-1594 (Lowest LNAB). Profiles represent the same Joseph m Susannah (merge to combine underlying children to same parent profiles - (Mentor Assist/Complex 3 Merges - Additional merges pending)
Thank you for your assistance in maintaing 1 profile per person.
(Merge cleanup not necessary at this time - will be done by Sandy)
I think I am finally ready to go forward with merges for Joseph m Susannah Lewis
(Joseph Profiles are down to 11 for our timeframe - underlying children merges due to complete 7/14+)
Final Joseph will be "Complex" 3 Merges for (Mgr consolidations / DNA)
(think worked this out - due to mis-attach of John Henderson)
Basic Info Target Lowest LNAB = Joseph Collins
Represents Joseph Collins m Susannah Lewis (b1704 m- d1757)
Birth Location Isle of Wright VA (Formation); Marriage 1728 King & Queen (Formation & Pruitt); Death Aug 1757 Spotsylvania County, Virginia Will Book B ; .
(1) Amber to Sandy
(2) Wanda to Sandy
(3) Ed Street Megan Sorensen to Sandy
(Mentor Assist Collins Cleanup)
(Researched before Merge) Merge request represents the same person
Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757)
Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
I think I am finally ready to go forward with merges for Joseph m Susannah Lewis
(Joseph Profiles are down to 11 for our timeframe - underlying children merges due to complete 7/14+)
Final Joseph will be "Complex" 3 Merges for (Mgr consolidations / DNA)
(think worked this out - due to mis-attach of John Henderson)
Basic Info Target Lowest LNAB = Joseph Collins
Represents Joseph Collins m Susannah Lewis (b1704 m- d1757)
Birth Location Isle of Wright VA (Formation); Marriage 1728 King & Queen (Formation & Pruitt); Death Aug 1757 Spotsylvania County, Virginia Will Book B ; .
(1) Amber to Sandy
(2) Wanda to Sandy
(3) Ed Street Megan Sorensen to Sandy
(Mentor Assist Collins Cleanup)
(Researched before Merge) Merge request represents the same person
Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757)
Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
Ed, Thank you very much for your reply. I don't quite understand your merge objection here. Common Logic tells you same sources=same individual. The underlying children were all named in Joseph's Will of 1757, which establishes the connection of the three Joseph's being the father and Susannah as the mother (as early as 1737); hence the same Joseph/Susannah/11 children. All are listed in the Pruitt Books; Birth and Marriage dates (obviously) are defined on "Final" copy as "Estimates" but are based upon/or established from profile narratives and IGI records; surviving Land records, etc., all of which are included on the profiles themselves, Again, on the "final" these will need to be reorganized; refined and dups deleted with the narrative refined to a final format with in-line sources, (with correct attachments/soft links and/or definitive explanations as to discrepancies), etc. The bio on Collins-20708 seems to be the most "up to date" info at present (most corrections have been made here) and once "all" information is in the same place, other info will be compared against this w/adjustments made accordingly, If you are saying the Collins-20708 bio is inaccurate, then you should refine this bio info and provide your in-line sources for support. As far as the children - these also will need to be reviewed individually (once merges completed). The only obvious error (at this time) seems to be the wife of James (TBD).
I think I am finally ready to go forward with merges for Joseph m Susannah Lewis
(Joseph Profiles are down to 11 for our timeframe - underlying children merges due to complete 7/14+)
Final Joseph will be "Complex" 3 Merges for (Mgr consolidations / DNA)
(think worked this out - due to mis-attach of John Henderson)
Basic Info Target Lowest LNAB = Joseph Collins
Represents Joseph Collins m Susannah Lewis (b1704 m- d1757)
Birth Location Isle of Wright VA (Formation); Marriage 1728 King & Queen (Formation & Pruitt); Death Aug 1757 Spotsylvania County, Virginia Will Book B ; .
(1) Amber to Sandy
(2) Wanda to Sandy
(3) Ed Street Megan Sorensen to Sandy
(Mentor Assist Collins Cleanup)
(Researched before Merge) Merge request represents the same person
Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757)
Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
Wanda, Thank you for your reply. We will proceed based on the Profile Content as shown in the individual profiles.
If you change your mind and want to be included on the Collins Clean Up list, just drop us an email.
or, if you have any questions or comments, please let us know via direct email.
All changes can be reviewed/monitored at the "Change" tab.
Again, thank you and Best Regards,
Sandy, Angela, Karen
Edwards-7481; Angela Jones-14472; Karen Weitz-140
Collins-29940 and Collins-20708 do not represent the same person because: Death dates are different, as are suffix of Jr vs III implies multiple people.
Collins-29940 and Collins-20708 appear to represent the same person because: Merge Collins-29940 Collins-20708 Same Location; same spouse; same children; same death 17 Aug 1767
Estimated Location Isle of Wright
Estimated Birth 1704
Collins-20708 and Collins-1594 do not represent the same person because: Doesn’t this look like father and son? And what is that Massachusetts information?
Collins-20708 and Collins-1594 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be same individual, despite significant difference in birth dates. Same spouse, same death date.
Collins-1594 and Collins-20021 appear to represent the same person because: I made this one and didn't realize the profile had already been made. Sorry.
Question: In the Joseph Collins Notes, above, it states that Joseph's son James was "already in North Carolina" at the time of Joseph's death or at least the proving of the will.
But I can't find anything about James Collins (husband of Mary Kirtley) that puts him in North Carolina at this time. This is right about tthe time of his marriage to Mary, IN Virginia. this may mean that this Joseph is not the father of the James Collins attached to this profile?
Collins-2868 and Collins-1594 appear to represent the same person because: I think this is a match, though the date of birth are slightly off and I am not sure that all the children's names match up correctly. I believe these two profiles are meant to represent the same person.
in reference to your comment: "I am not sure of the "proven by DNA" comment above refers only to his mother or both of his parents. I would love to learn more about the Collins DNA research. ~ Erik Granstrom, Feb. 6th, 2021. " Likely the discrepancy was a result of mis-attached descendant information"
My third cousin Karen Allman and I are actively researching Collins DNA through autosomal and YDNA. You see her mother Donna (Campbell) Jean and my mother Sylvia (Emery) Lewis as DNA descendants on this page. I also am working with our cousin Joe Creed Collins on his Y DNA. We are awaiting his Y700 result. There is a mis-match on the DNA here, because Joe and John Carlton Collins who both show as direct paternal descendants of Joseph "Robinson" Collins are different Y Haplogroups indicating there may be a misattributed father in one of their lines. Their most recent common direct paternal ancestor is Edward Collins Sr. I hope that more Collins males from this line who have Y DNA tested will join WikiTree to help solve the mystery.
Me too and my cousin Karen Allman and I are actively working to sort out whether our ancestor Ann Collins who married Edward Collins Jr are cousins using both DNA and records. The DNA might answer the question if more Collins WikiTreers who have DNA tested do [Confirmation] .
Different ydna haplogroups mean they are not related to each other and had different paternal ancestors. Unless it’s the big Y and they are in the same block tree branch.
John Carleton Collins is R and Joe Creed Collins is I-M223. They are both linked to this profile. I am awaiting the Big Y test result for Joe. John is deceased so cannot be contacted. I am also encouraging other I-M223 Collins men to join WikiTree. One Collins descendant who matches Joe and is I-M223 has taken the Y700 already so Joe's upgrade to Y700 will tell us whether they create a new branch in the Ytree. My third cousin Karen Allman and I are working on figuring out the Y and autosomal DNA matchpoints between him and Joe. We both actively use the DNA confirmation tool on our Collins line as well.
OH, their common ancestor is oh 125,000 years ago between R and I haplogroups. May have had a number of reasons for the mismatch and still be in the family, like adoption, unfaithful, criminal, etc.. However, multiple sources would be super helpful in ruling out family members.
Yes, I am aware of that. Adoption, unfaithful, criminal are all what I referred to as "a misattributed father in one of their lines." Karen and I are working with the Collins Clean-Up team on our line shared by Joe Creed Collins with quality sources and DNA Confirmation.
Thank you for your assistance in maintaining 1 profile per person
Thank you for your assistance in maintaing 1 profile per person. (Merge cleanup not necessary at this time - will be done by Sandy)
edited by Sandy Edwards
(Joseph Profiles are down to 11 for our timeframe - underlying children merges due to complete 7/14+) Final Joseph will be "Complex" 3 Merges for (Mgr consolidations / DNA) (think worked this out - due to mis-attach of John Henderson)
Represents Joseph Collins m Susannah Lewis (b1704 m- d1757) Birth Location Isle of Wright VA (Formation); Marriage 1728 King & Queen (Formation & Pruitt); Death Aug 1757 Spotsylvania County, Virginia Will Book B ; . (1) Amber to Sandy (2) Wanda to Sandy (3) Ed Street Megan Sorensen to Sandy
(Mentor Assist Collins Cleanup) (Researched before Merge) Merge request represents the same person Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757) Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
Regards, Sandy
(Joseph Profiles are down to 11 for our timeframe - underlying children merges due to complete 7/14+) Final Joseph will be "Complex" 3 Merges for (Mgr consolidations / DNA) (think worked this out - due to mis-attach of John Henderson)
Represents Joseph Collins m Susannah Lewis (b1704 m- d1757) Birth Location Isle of Wright VA (Formation); Marriage 1728 King & Queen (Formation & Pruitt); Death Aug 1757 Spotsylvania County, Virginia Will Book B ; . (1) Amber to Sandy (2) Wanda to Sandy (3) Ed Street Megan Sorensen to Sandy
(Mentor Assist Collins Cleanup) (Researched before Merge) Merge request represents the same person Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757) Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
Regards, Sandy
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(Joseph Profiles are down to 11 for our timeframe - underlying children merges due to complete 7/14+) Final Joseph will be "Complex" 3 Merges for (Mgr consolidations / DNA) (think worked this out - due to mis-attach of John Henderson)
Represents Joseph Collins m Susannah Lewis (b1704 m- d1757) Birth Location Isle of Wright VA (Formation); Marriage 1728 King & Queen (Formation & Pruitt); Death Aug 1757 Spotsylvania County, Virginia Will Book B ; . (1) Amber to Sandy (2) Wanda to Sandy (3) Ed Street Megan Sorensen to Sandy
(Mentor Assist Collins Cleanup) (Researched before Merge) Merge request represents the same person Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757) Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
Regards, Sandy
Please approve; merge represents Lowest LNAB for same individual Joseph Collins (1704-1757)
Thank you for maintaining 1 profile per person
cc (1) direct Email (2) and Profile Post https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Collins-1594 DNA Issue) (Re: Collins (Wanda Richards-7070/(Joseph Collins/Lewis)
Wanda, Thank you for your reply. We will proceed based on the Profile Content as shown in the individual profiles. If you change your mind and want to be included on the Collins Clean Up list, just drop us an email. or, if you have any questions or comments, please let us know via direct email. All changes can be reviewed/monitored at the "Change" tab. Again, thank you and Best Regards, Sandy, Angela, Karen Edwards-7481; Angela Jones-14472; Karen Weitz-140
Estimated Location Isle of Wright Estimated Birth 1704
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But I can't find anything about James Collins (husband of Mary Kirtley) that puts him in North Carolina at this time. This is right about tthe time of his marriage to Mary, IN Virginia. this may mean that this Joseph is not the father of the James Collins attached to this profile?
My third cousin Karen Allman and I are actively researching Collins DNA through autosomal and YDNA. You see her mother Donna (Campbell) Jean and my mother Sylvia (Emery) Lewis as DNA descendants on this page. I also am working with our cousin Joe Creed Collins on his Y DNA. We are awaiting his Y700 result. There is a mis-match on the DNA here, because Joe and John Carlton Collins who both show as direct paternal descendants of Joseph "Robinson" Collins are different Y Haplogroups indicating there may be a misattributed father in one of their lines. Their most recent common direct paternal ancestor is Edward Collins Sr. I hope that more Collins males from this line who have Y DNA tested will join WikiTree to help solve the mystery.
edited by Terri (Lewis) Stern
So what are their haplogroups?