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Thomas Trott (abt. 1614 - 1696)

Thomas Trott
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
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Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
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Husband of — married 1644 in Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusettsmap
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Died at about age 82 in Dorchester, Suffolk Co., Massachusetts Baymap
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Thomas Trott migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).
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Biography

Thomas Trott is not recognized as having arrived in New England by 1640 according to information on his immigration by that timeframe in Robert Charles Anderson's The Great Migration series of books.

Thomas Trott[1] came to America from Bristol, England in 1635, on board the ship "The James" with Richard Mather.[citation needed] He settled in Dorchester, Massachusetts.

He was made freeman in 1644, joined the church the same year.[2] [3][4]

He married Sarah Proctor, daughter of George and Edith Proctor, who came from England and settled in Dorchester in 1644.[5] [6]

Thomas was selectman in 1646, died July 28, 1696, aged eighty-two years. Sarah (Proctor) Trott died May 27, 1712; she was daughter of George and Edith Proctor, who came from England and settled in Dorchester. Mr. Proctor was granted land in 1634-37-56, and was town bailiff in 1642.

15 Sep 1648 Thomas Trott of Dorchester bought a house on acreage from Christopher Gibson of Boston. [7]

Thomas died 28 Jul 1696. He is buried in Dorchester North Burying Ground. [8]

Marriage 1 Sarah PROCTOR b: Abt 1627 in Pitminster, Somerset, England Married: 1644 in Dorchester, Suffolk, MA Children:

  1. Preserved Trott , Proctor b: 19 MAR 1645/46/47 in Dorchester, Norfolk, Ma
  2. Thomas Trott , Proctor b: in Of Dorchester, Suff., Mass.
  3. Sarah Trott , Proctor b: 16 JAN 1651/52 in Of Dorchester, Suff., Mass.
  4. Mary Trott , Proctor b: 26 JAN 1656/57 in Dorchester, Suff., Mass.
  5. Samuel Trott , Proctor b: 27 AUG 1660 in Dorchester, Suff., Mass.
  6. John Trott b: 24 NOV 1664 in Dorchester, Suffolk , Mass.
  7. Thankful Trott. Proctor b: 5 OCT 1667 in Dorchester, Suff., Mass.
  8. James Trott , Proctor b: 2 JUN 1671 in Dorchester, Suff., Mass

Research Notes

No reliable sources have yet been found showing that Thomas Trott was a son of Martin Trott (1586-1617) and Anne Perient (abt.1586-abt.1624). They will be detached as his parents pending reliable sources showing their connection.Hill-11959 17:26, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Sources

  1. Jessie Hale Tuttle, editor , The Capen Family: Descendants of Bernard Capen of Dorchester, Mass., Salem, Massachusetts: Higginson Book Company, 2012.
  2. Directory of the Ancestral Heads of New England Families, 1620-1700.
  3. History of the Town of Dorchester, Massachusetts, published 1859. Reference page 136
  4. Records of th First Church at Dorchester in New England, 1636-1734, published 1891. Reference page 6
  5. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 for Thomas Trott New England Marriages Prior to 1700
  6. Anderson, R C "The Great Migration Begins..." Vol II page 538
  7. Anderson, R C "The Great Migration Begins..." Vol II page 760
  8. Thomas Trott on Find A Grave: Memorial #20742701 retrieved 5/30/2019




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Ebenezer Clapp's History of Dorchester, p. 102, lists Thomas Trott among those "as a near approach to a correct list of the second emigration from Europe, which occurred about the time of Mr. Mather's arrival and settlement." This might be misinterpreted as Trott having arrived with Mather, but it does not state that.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
What evidence is there that Thomas was the son of Martin/Ann?
posted by Bob Trott Mr
Thanks, Bob.

I've marked them uncertain for now. If reliable sources are not added for their relationship, they will be detached as his parents.

If you post a question on G2G it is possible that researchers there may have further information about Thomas' origins.

S Willson

posted by S (Hill) Willson
OK. I’m unsure of the origins of Thomas as when I went to the Bristol archives many years ago there were no signs of him. I’m Chair of the Trott One Name Research Group (TONRG) and also have a copy of The Treat Family that lists him, so we are interested. I

Our DNA guru here in the U.K. is a descendant of the Trott/Perient line I and have asked her for comment, but I would have thought she would have told me before if the line was hers.

posted by Bob Trott Mr
Good morning

I have had a comprehensive response from a descendant of Martin’s line and it is not supportive of the original entry. If you would like to see it, drop me an email (address on the TONRG web site) and I can forward. I wish we could resolve the problem of his origin, but dna might help. Regards Bob

posted by Bob Trott Mr
I will try and get the content you asked for into a message tomorrow.

Bob

posted by Bob Trott Mr
From a descendant of the Trott/Perient marriage.

Martin and his family lived in Essex/Hertfordshire/London. At that period ships were sailing to New England on a regular basis from Gravesend, so no good reason for any of them to sail across the Atlantic from Bristol. So, this always sets off alarm bells, and a Trott sailing from Bristol was almost certainly from Somerset.

This sort of thing crops up a lot. I don’t have evidence that they had a son called Thomas. But there is a slight snag. They married in 1605 and their first known child was baptised in 1608. There is a chance they had an earlier child in the gap, say 1606. However, in the Visitations of Essex, 1634, there are no children then living before Martin b 1610. There are no further gaps until Anne’s death in 1624. Martin remarried and had children from 1628 to 1635 with his second wife. But clearly the younger children would all be too young anyway. I had a look at the Wikitree entry and it says that he was said to have sailed from Bristol with Richard Mather, which rang a bell. I then had dig around and found some material sent to me by Taylor Trott about 8 years ago when he joined the DNA project. I don’t think he is a TONRG member. Once we established using DNA, that he matched the Essex Trotts, it became clear that the earliest generations of the his family tree were not reliable. I suspect a lot of New England Trotts claim descent from this man, without much justification. It was, of course, common for people to claim descent from someone of the right name living in the right place, and later descendants don’t always question this.

posted by Bob Trott Mr
Does anyone have a reliable source for his arrival in New England in 1635 aboard The James with Richard Mather? Anderson does not show him in The Great Migration Directory, and I found no reliable sources substantiating that he arrived then, including in any town or church records. The earliest record I found for him was in 1644.

It appears he may not be eligible to be considered a PGM immigrant.

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Wasn’t his wife Sarah hung for being a witch? Is so why is there no mention of it?
Nothing his indicated that Sarah was hung in 1712,
posted by Patrick McCormick
Thanks, leave it to Ancestry to send you the file of the wrong Sarah
There is a list of people involved in the Salem Witch Trials here. There were several Proctors listed, but not this Sarah.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I thought so too but I now have both in my tree: Sarah (Proctor) Douglas, Born June 28 1676 in Salem, Mass was accused of witchcraft in 1692. She was not hung, later married William Douglas in 1696, and died in Connecticut about 1731.
posted by Ursula (Wallen) Ramos
Hi Ursula,

So, you are in agreement that Sarah Proctor married Trott was not caught up in the Witch Trials, right?--Gene

posted by GeneJ X
Trott-59 and Trott-192 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate

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