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Willem Gijsbertsz (abt. 1540 - abt. 1610)

Born about [uncertain] in Opijnen, Gelderland, Nederland
Died about [uncertain] at about age 70 in Opijnen, Gelderland, Nederland
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Biography

Name

  • Gijsbertsz is a patronymic, based on his father's name (Gijsbert). The surname "Krom" (also "Crom") could be from "de Kroon" (of Kroon).[1]
  • Willem /Gijsbertsz/[2][3]
  • Gijsbert may only be known from his son's patronym.

Birth

  • 1540 in Opijnen, Tielerwaard, Gelderland, Netherlands[4]- Opijnen, Neerijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands[3]

Family

Death

  • after 1610 in Opijnen, Neerijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands1610 in Opijnen, Tielerwaard, Gelderland, Nederland[3]
  • 1610 in Opijnen, Tielerwaard, Gelderland, Nederland[4]

Notes

  • Many records for this family and the following generations can be found in Rechterlijk Archief van Tuil, 1244-1254.
  • The name of Willem's father is Gijsbert (from Willem's patronymic, Gijsbertsz), but "Gijsbert Gerritzoon Kroon" is a different person (married to Marrigje Frekisa de Graaf in 1757). A duplicate profile for Willem (Krom-120) added the mother (with a daughter). Gijsbert Gerritzoon Kroon (Kroon-3) was already attached through another duplicate profile for Willem. Due to the lack of any evidence as to Willem's father's name (beyond Gijsbert), and the 1757 marriage record for Gijsbert Gerritzoon Kroon and Marrigje Frekisa de Graaf (see her profile), Kroon-3 and Graaf-7 have now been removed as the parents of Willem Gijsbertsz.

Sources

  1. modern Netherlands has a "Hollands Kroon" municipality, which is 134 km (83.3 miles) from Opijnen
  2. Source: S165 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com.(Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members).
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 from Gijsbertsz-2
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 from Gijsbertsz-3
  5. Maiden may more likely be a description than a surname
  6. Source: #S165 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: Ancestry 661277836
  • Ten Eyck, Jane Stewart, and Peter Nouwt. "Netherlands Origins of the Crom Families of Ulster and Rockland Counties, New York." In The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 11-22. 1st ed. Vol. 131. New York, N.Y.: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 2000.
  • Source: S-2044761445 Ancestry Family Trees Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members(Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members).
  • Ten Eyck, Jane Stewart, and Peter Nouwt. "Netherlands Origins of the Crom Families of Ulster and Rockland Counties, New York." In The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 11-22. 1st ed. Vol. 131. New York, N.Y.: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 2000.

Acknowledgements

  • The WikiTree profile Gijsbertsz-2 was created on 02 November 2010 through the import of MacEntee_Richard_2010-11-01.ged. (No sources given.)
  • The WikiTree profile Gijsbertsz-3 was created through the import of Lent_Vise_2011-05-11aa.ged on May 26, 2011 by Bryan Sypniewski. Source citation: S165.
  • The WikiTree profile Krom-120 was created by Alva Crom through the import of CROM FAMILY.ged on Jul 17, 2014. Source citation: S-2044761445.
  • Liz Shifflett
  • WikiTree profile Kroon-3 created through the import of Lent_Vise_2011-05-11aa.ged on May 26, 2011 by Bryan Sypniewski. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Bryan and others.
  • WikiTree profile Kroon-2 created through the import of Lent_Vise_2011-05-11aa.ged on May 26, 2011 by Bryan Sypniewski. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Bryan and others. Source citation: S165. See the changes page for details.

  • profile for "grandfather" Gerrit (Kroon-2) Gerrit [middle name?] Kroon, born 1470 in Netherlands. Son of [father?] and [mother?] [brothers or sisters?] [spouse?]
    Father of Gijsbert Gerritzoon Kroon [add child] Died [death date?] [place of death?] Kroon-2
  • Gerrit /Kroon/, Source: #S165 Ancestry Family Trees (Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members).
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Comments on Willem Gijsbertsz: 10


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Thank you cousins! I totally agree with the changes that have made

posted by Alva (Munden) Crom

Quackenbush-118
Carrie Quackenbush
Woohoo, on a tethered Chromebook.

Ok joined the parents, disconnected them from this profile and tagged them for when more sources can be added to them, though I put their marriage on the wife's profile.

Yeah, I don't know what to think about genealogieonline.nl. It appears to be user submitted and I've seen bunk information regarding the Quackenbushes there but there was so much about this family with very specific dates that it seemed to have gotten conflated somewhere. And then it was confirmed with the marriage record.

Thanks to you cousin!

posted by Carrie Quackenbush

Quackenbush-118
Carrie Quackenbush
Ok, cool! My modem died so brb asap...

posted by Carrie Quackenbush

Carrie- Steven didn't have anything further on these families & said go for it. Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

Carrie - I've sent messages to Kimball Everingham & Steven Mix about disconnecting the parents. Just sent a note to Steven, and he's on the west coast, so if we could wait to hear from him before taking action, that would be great. The info you have is persuasive that the parents for Gijsbertsz-2 are wrong & should be detached. It appears they came in on a merge with Krom-120 (that I proposed - sorry!).

Thanks cousin :D

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

Thanks Carrie! And yes, it's the genealogieonline.nl source that I've never been able to find sources on. People tell me it's authoritative, but without source citations...

https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/genealogische-data-golse-genen/I550987.php

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

Quackenbush-118
Carrie Quackenbush
As Gijsbert Gerritzoon Kroon and his wife are real, I would humbly suggest just detaching them and passing them off to the Dutch Roots project.

This Willem's father's whole name isn't known or anything else about him, so he wouldn't need a profile, where as Gijsberts Gerritzoon Kroon's family seems well researched and of interest to the genealogy community.

Also Kroon is never mentioned as an alternative spelling in the Netherlands research and doesn't return any results in the NYGBR index.

posted by Carrie Quackenbush

Quackenbush-118
Carrie Quackenbush
Liz - NYGBR is the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. All of the information for this family is in copyrighted issues but I'm a subscriber.

Do you mean the sources for link about the 18th century family?

posted by Carrie Quackenbush

Carrie - what's NYGBR? Also, I wasn't savvy enough to figure out what sources were being used at the link you provided. Was I just not clicking the right places?

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett



War of 1812 Connection Checkers: Willem is 14 degrees from Francis Key, 14 degrees from Caleb Bentley, 18 degrees from Thomas Brisbane VIth of Brisbane, 15 degrees from Francis Dade, 14 degrees from William Harrison, 14 degrees from Andrew Jackson, 10 degrees from Dolley Madison, 14 degrees from Oliver Perry, 14 degrees from Mary Pickersgill, 11 degrees from Laura Secord, 11 degrees from John Stricker and 18 degrees from Arthur Wakefield

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