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WikiTree profile: Pip Sheppard
closed with the note: Closed until the next weekend chat.
in The Tree House by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (2.7m points)
closed by David Selman

Welcome to a US springtime Weekend Chat, my fellow WikiChatterboxes! And greetings from Cathey’s Creek where the weather has been rather mild except for a few cold mornings. Since my shoulders, both of them, have healed up, I’ve been able to get a few outside chores done. I’m still taking it easy. I like my excuse, which my wife tends to accept.

On the Home Front: I got a touch of the flu yesterday but am feeling better today.  I DID get a flu shot last November, so though I tend to catch things, the shot made the symptoms rather mild. When I get the flu without the shot, I’m down for a week… at least!

My brother and WikiTree member, Tinmothy, has been in his attic. He sent some photos of old pictures that hung in my grandparents’ home. He wanted to know if I wanted them. DUH! Of course! I’ll hang them in my library. One is at least 80 years old. It’s of a Navy guy at home on leave. He’s eating a meal with his family as they look adoringly at him.

I know the story behind this picture. My grandmother bought it during World War II when her only son was in the Merchant Marine. Mom said that she (my grandmother) worried for his safety all the time, and I bet Grandpa did, too.

A further story: Once, my Uncle Ralph, got leave and traveled home at Christmas time. My grandparents didn’t know about this. He arrived at the bus station in Charlotte, NC, and a gentleman saw him looking for a ride. Out of the kindness of his heart and his patriotic feelings, the gentleman drove Uncle Ralph the nine miles to my grandparents’ rural home.

My mother, then only about 16 years old, saw the lights of the car coming down the road and wondered who would be out at that time of night in the cold. Uncle Ralph appeared at the door to a great celebration. The anonymous gentleman who drove him home refused payment. This was America in the 1940s. I think we have lost our way since then.

On the Genealogy Front: My mentee’s mother gave me the names of her grandparents so I could do some work in that area for her. Turns out that she is a seventh cousin through our shared Dalton line out of Rutherford County, NC (and Virginia before that).

It was easy research, and I was able to connect four of the lines to our Tree. I’ve only worked on her grandfather’s line, so I have more to do, yet. It’s been fun, getting me away from my own personal genealogy for a bit.

Today is the anniversary of my gg-uncle Jap Beaty’s marriage to Lenora McCord in 1893. William Jasper Beaty, to give his full name, is buried at my favorite cemetery, the one at Paw Creek Presbyterian Church. I visited this cemetery often with my grandparents as they both had relatives buried there. Two of my direct Beaty ancestors are buried there.

At Uncle Jap’s grave site, there are several young children buried with their parents. There were survivors, though, and I have many cousins descended from his family. Uncle Jap’s home still stands on ancestral land, and in front of the home is a millstone that was used by his grandfather at the old Beaty Mill.

I hope all of you are well as can be. Just remember who much you are loved in this community!

Enjoy the Chat!

I picked up on your statement that you had a favorite cemetery! I have one, also (I thought I was the only onesurprise) Mine is Starr Cemetery in Dawson, Nebraska, on my 2nd Great Grandfather's farm.  I told my wife, I want to be creamated and my ashes scattered around all my grandfathers's graves...I have 3 grandfathers buried there!  Then I will have a small Cenotaph with a QR code on it to lead anyone who happens to see it which will take them to my WikiTree profile and the others buried there! Can't wait! DID I JUST SAY THAT? surprise

Good morning, Pip and so glad you are doing well. Yes, a flu shot will lessen the response to the flu. I remember getting the flu years ago...perhaps in 1999 and wanted to die. I was never so sick in all my life and could barely even make it to the bathroom for those needs. A friend from Las Vegas, Jim, came to visit and took care of meals, cleaning, etc. After that experience, I get a flu shot every year. Jim and I had grown up together. He was a Viet Nam vet. Yesterday was the anniversary of his birthday. He died 20 years ago following complications from abdominal surgery...related to agent orange exposure. I miss him terribly.

PIP, I thought of you as I wrote my chat early this morning! Please see the links that I added related to my 8th GGF Ezekiel Richardson. I think your Anglican heart will appreciate the story about Anne Hutchinson, Rev. John Wheelwright, and Puritan Orthodoxy of 1637.

It sounds like you are recovering wonderfully from your surgery. I attend a zoom meeting most Saturday mornings with my Healing Touch nurse colleagues and we hold you and Mrs. Pip in our healing intentions. Please know that Tucson misses you!

Congrats on the cool pic! Didn't know you had a library. Though, I shouldn't be surprised being a refined southern gentleman and all. ;) Got a wine cellar? Asking for a friend.

Yeah, I think these days people don't pick up people on the side of the road. Too many horror stories. Dunno if we lost or way so much as watched too many horror movies. See "Large Marge" from Pee Wee's Big Adventure for details.

Glad you're doing well. And if you're at the diner on 33rd street, tell 'em Large Marge sent ya. HAHAHAHA!

And thinking about how many times I hitchhiked the 1.5 km from where I lived off campus while I was at university to the campus.

It wasn't the distance, it was the incredibly steep grade uphill to the campus, though walking down the hill in winter could be an adventure.

Yep I could have taken the bus, but that would have meant using my grocery money.
Lovely stories, Pip! I have so many photos of ancestors' portraits, now, but nowhere to hang them all. Hopefully one day...
Rotate them. Change is good.
Since most of the time I drove I had at least one of my six Alaskan Malamutes in the car with me I didn’t really worry too much about someone doing anything. They look like wolves and could bite through a metal dog dish.  Kodi was 135 lbs and 27”at the shoulder if he stood up on his hind legs he was taller than a 6’ man.  He was my biggest one. fussy was the smallest at 80 lbs and 22” at the shoulder
Glad to hear you are slowly getting back to "normal". And glad you are taking it easy, no need to cause pain and strain and make your progress go backward!

I remember surprising my folks coming home for holidays when I was in the service. It made for some nice hallmark memories even if it was a bit of a logistical challenge.

I have no home of my own right now, (we're caring for my PiLs) so even that good suggestion wouldn't work. Everything has its time... smiley

PMA,(positive mental attitude) you must have got that from our grandma Danvers-8. I think I recall your situation from a previous chat. When the time comes, and it will, don't forget to rotate the portraits and photos. Your 16th cousin from across the pond.

Awww. Bless you. I will definitely rotate the portraits and photos. Right now, I'm enjoying just thinking about how the first version of the wall will look. Sometimes these things need time. laugh

True story: A woman offered me a ride after I was grocery shopping. I didn't know who this woman was but she was very nice.

It may have been my guardian angel, possibly.

Thanks Chatman!

My pleasure, K!

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devil This week enjoy a NEW parody: devil

WikiTree Pie

Sung to the of American Pie by Don Mclean, recorded and released in 1971 on the album of the same name!laugh

  • The single was the number-one US hit for four weeks in 1972
  • The song also topped the charts in the UK, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand.
  • The song was listed as the No. 5 song on the RIAA project Songs of the Century.
  • A truncated version of the song by Madonna in 2000 and reached No. 1
    • Parody By Dave Draper

Here is the music: YouTube American Pie by Don McLean

  • Click on the link, the music should play in a new window, then come back here and try to sing along.
    • Or copy and paste the link in a new window
  • WikiTree Pie (this is over 8 minutes longsurprise)
  • It was 15 years ago
  • I can still remember
  • As WikiTree grew,
  • Used to make me smile
  • And I knew if I had my chance
  • I'd profile all the dead in France
  • And us newbies would happy for a while
  • But genealogy made me shiver
  • With no sources to deliver
  • Brick walls on my doorstep
  • I couldn't take one more step
  • I can't remember if I cried
  • When I profiled 'bout his widowed bride
  • Something touched me deep inside
  • The day that brick wall died
  • So, bye-bye, genealogy sites
  • Joined Wikitree, and told each one a happy "GOOD-BYE"
  • And all "Wikipeeps" were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "This'll be the new site to try!"
  • This'll be the new site to try"
  • Did you write a Bio of love
  • Do you have faith in the Tree above
  • If Connection Finder tells you so?
  • Now, do you believe in the Indian rolls?
  • Can Wiki save your mortal soul
  • And can you teach me how to Source real slow?
  • Well, I know that you'll be on again
  • 'Cause I saw your profile about Jim
  • You started to come unglued
  • Man, I hate those brick wall blues
  • I was a lonely middle age widowed buck
  • With an old laptop and a pickup truck
  • But I knew it was the best of luck
  • The day that brick wall died
  • I started singin', HI! Hi!, All you Wikipeep guys!
  • I finally stopped crying 'cause my heart was on fire
  • And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "This'll be the new site to try!
  • This'll be the new site to try!"
  • Now, fifteen years we've been on our own
  • And moss grows thick on a graveyard stone
  • But that's not how it used to be
  • I'm related to the King and Queen
  • I'm also a cousin to James Dean
  • And a profile that was made by you and me
  • Oh, and while the search was going down
  • The Sourcer found his old hometown
  • The graveyard was adjourned
  • No photos were returned
  • And while Leon made a profile on Marx
  • We newbies practiced making charts
  • And we found sources in the dark
  • The day that brick wall died
  • We started singin', HI! Hi!, All you Wikipeep guys!
  • We finally stopped crying 'cause our hearts were on fire
  • And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "Sorucer is the FREE app to try!
  • Sourcer is the FREE app to try!"
  • Helter skelter: Connect-A-Thon swelter
  • WikiTree tree grew big and provided shelter
  • Eight miles high and growing fast
  • It kicked others sites in the ass
  • They tried to stop our forward pass
  • With the Sourcer finding records in the past
  • Now, Wikipeeps' love is sweet perfume
  • While Date Night plays a marching tune
  • We all got up to dance
  • And at RootsTech we sat up a stand
  • 'Cause the players tried to take the field
  • They won't keep up; they'll have to yield
  • Do you recall what was revealed
  • The day that brick wall died?
  • We started singin', HI! Hi!, All you Wikipeep guys!
  • We finally stoped crying 'cause our hearts were on fire
  • And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "Sorucer is the FREE app to try!
  • Sourcer is the FREE app to try!"
  • Oh, and there we were in the G2G place
  • Pilots made it into Outer Space
  • Giving their time to help again
  • So, come on, Jack B. Nimble is Jack B. Quick
  • Run Sourcer to reveal and fix
  • Cause confusion is Ancestry's only friend
  • Oh, and as I watched them on the stage
  • And I ran Sourcer in a fit of rage
  • No dead restin' in hell
  • We'll resurrect them as well!
  • And as the sources came into light
  • The profiles were now lookin' bright
  • I saw Wikipees laughing with delight
  • The day that brick wall died
  • We started singin', HI! Hi!, All you Wikipeep guys!
  • We finally stoped crying 'cause our hearts were on fire
  • And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "Sorucer is the FREE app to try!
  • Sourcer is the FREE app to try!"
  • I met a Wikipeep who sang the blues
  • And I asked her for some happy news
  • But she just smiled and turned away
  • I went to the download store
  • Where I'd found Sourcer years before
  • But the man there said it was down for the day
  • And on the forum the "children" screamed
  • We all cried, and we all dreamed
  • But not a word was spoken
  • Our Sourcer had been broken
  • And the one man that I admire most
  • Yes, our host who lives on the Eastern Coast
  • Stayed up all night; kicked out that hacker ghost!
  • The day that Sourcer died
  • We started singin', HI! Hi!, All you Wikipeep guys!
  • We finally stoped crying 'cause our hearts were on fire
  • And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "Sorucer is Up and ALIVE!
  • Sourcer is Up and ALIVE!"
  • We started singin', HI! Hi!, All you Wikipeep guys!
  • We finally stoped crying 'cause our hearts were on fire
  • And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey and rye
  • Singin', "WIKITREE HAS FREED UP OUR LIVES

devilMore of Dave's Weekend Chat Parodies HERE!

This is the 1st release on Album 5! WOW! (49 songs now)

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.6m points)
edited by David Draper
This song reminds me of "The Saga Begins" by Weird Al: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEcjgJSqSRU

Nice work!

Cousin Chris, that is where I got the idea for this song...I knew you would like this one!wink

Nice! And I sure did! =D
How nice of you to give props to Pip in this parody! This is one of your best so far.
Love it!
This has to be one of your best ones yet.

Wow! That took some creative work there, David.

Good Scottish WikiTreers: And all Wikipeeps were drinkin' whiskey....

Best one yet. Well done David
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1721373/congratulations-david-draper-for-reaching-million-points     Check out this recognition for David!   It always makes me excited when I see one of our weekly chat friends get recognized.   Way to go David!  You're doing your family proud!
I always enjoy the parodies but this one really is superb!!
That song brings back memories. I'll have to visit Clear Lake, IA someday.
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It’s that time of the morning again, here in “Little Dixie’. I feel like John Quinones, What would you do? As threatened, I have began digging into the Brooking Cemetery. Discoveries of interest were immediate as expected. True to the times of 1850’s, the discoveries were filled with grief created by the political differences so many miles from those who suffered the brunt of consequences.  It is hard to fathom the atrocities that were committed, 150 years prior, on the soil I have such fond memories of growing up as a kid. From a southern roots perspective, I can see why the civil war was deemed the war of Northern Aggression in this part of the woods. I can see why those that opposed secession yet, had southern sympathies, did not want to join the confederate army but, wanted to defend their home, property, chosen lifestyle and especially their women and children. A piece of paper can only be folded so many times (9) and a man can only be torn in so many directions. Somewhere I read, that over 40 percent of all battles in the first year of the civil war were fought in Missouri. 25,000 civilians, roughly 4.2 percent of the total killed, were killed in Missouri during the years before and after the war. Like the battles in the first year, more than any other state in the union.  A majority were family members of those who were suspected of supporting the confederacy, more specifically supporting the bushwackers. What happened to combatants of the battlefield is one thing, what happened to their families, at home, trying to survive, is another. Why were some quick to be deemed outlaws while others accused of equal, if not worse atrocities, were not cast as war criminals?

  As suspected, it didn’t take long to connect my family to the Brooking family for which the cemetery and township were named. Alvan Brooking. Alvan was a judge and two term senator from Missouri. For 200 years before him, men of his mettle and pioneering spirit were considered heroes advancing ‘civilization’ westward. His son, Henry Clay Brooking, was named in honor of one of Alvan’s esteemed colleagues from Kentucky who lead  the passage of the Missouri Compromise. In 1854, Henry returned home from the gold fields out west shortly before the war officially broke out. Settled in the Little Blue River bottoms, very near the Harris’ farm, located along the Little Blue, were the in-laws of Henry Brooking. Alfred Laws, a man past his military age, a non-combatant, dealing with the hardships of war. I have not found the exact date of death other than 1863. If I were to speculate, I would guess this occurred sometime between the raid on Lawrence and Order #11.https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10676252/alfred-laws

Copied from the memorial from Findagrave:

Alfred Laws
A Jackson County farmer that lived near the Blue River, Laws was killed by Federal troops over a belief that he was once a bushwhacker for a year and half and that he and his wife, Permelia gave aid and support to bushwhackers. History points to the possibility that Laws also had ties to Quantrill lieutenant, George Todd. Two stories tell of his death. One, is he was killed by troops that arrived at his house pretending to be Quantrill men and were looking to find George Todd. The second story is that three soldiers of the Kansas 9th went to Laws house and ordered food to be made for fifteen. Alfred and Permelia gave in after trying to find excuses. When Permelia went outside to gather turkey eggs for the dinner, the soldiers took Alfred outside and shot him dead with two bullets to the head and three to the body. So far, no proof has been found of Laws actually being a bushwhacker.
bio from Richard Stewart/Elmwood Cemetery

   Statistically, the majority of soldiers in the civil war were under 21 years of age. It appears this family was targeted by Federal Troops. If this was a military action why no report? If there is/was a report, would it read like the report of others killed during Order #11. Like those trying to comply with said order in Lone Jack rounded up and murdered Sep 6, 1863, a few days prior to Order#11 by Federal Troops. They were family members of those that served in both the Confederate army and as bushwhackers. That report read bushwhackers were encountered and killed, when in reality, 6 members of the Hunter/Cave families ranging from 17-75 years of age were rounded up and executed. Six Man Cemetery in Missouri - Find a Grave Cemetery

  I can’t say this is much of a surprise as it was commonplace for the time and place. If you wanted to survive, you fed men of either side when requested, or watched your property burn. Indiscriminate killing was also common. This connection was unexpected as I was looking for other connections which, I have several leads. There is another Daniel Boone connection. Brookings were related to the Pendleton family as well as the Herndon family. The same Pendleton family that  is related to the Taylor-Smith families. In honor of Captain Henry Clay Brooking, Captain Minor Tebbs Smith named a son Clay Brooking Smith. This little tiddy I already knew.

   Another interesting, accidental discovery made, was one that involved a 3rd and 6th cousin. I’ll include them when I get to my Kansas connections I consider ‘war criminal’ cousins as to not offend my ‘outlaw’ bushwacker cousins whose actions are far more understandable from a “What Would You Do” perspective.

by K Smith G2G6 Pilot (369k points)
edited by K Smith
Hi K, I just added a couple of Civil War soldier profiles from Maine this past week. One was with the 33rd Maine regiment. I did so many profiles this past week that I don't remember who all I added or where they fought. I do think it important, though, to acknowledge their service...no matter what war they served in.
Agree. I have had ardent supporters of war as well as those who have protested. If given a choice, they fought for either if not both sides. Even in war, a certain amount of humanity should prevail. Evil is evil as rude is rude, regardless of age or circumstance, at least the way grandma taught it. Most wars start out as covert actions that escalate into full blown affairs. Most covert actions are intended to bring about wars, at least the way I understand them. The men, and now women, who fight them are mere pawns of those in power.

What would I do, If Ilived back then? I had family (on both sides and in Iowa and Missouri) shooting at each other! I think I would have attended Quaker meetings and became a "friend"! surprise I'm glad I didn't have to live through those times!

Again, my primary reason for my posts is to point out obvious bias in the recorded history. Even the peace-loving Quakers of military age were conscripted into the military and furnished a Sharp's rifle to deliver more fire power than those they opposed. They might have attended a meeting on Sunday, but they were in the trenches Monday thru Saturday. The evangelical Christian, abolitionist, murderous John Brown, influenced by the Puritan faith, financed by the Secret Six Secret Six - Wikipedia, was viewed as both villain and martyr. John Brown, 6c4r, one of my criminal relatives of the border war. The Pottawatomie Massacre, 25 May 1856 was the match in the powderkeg that precipitated the bloodiest period in "Bleeding Kansas" history, a three-month period of retaliatory raids and battles in which 29 people died.

Background

The Secret Six were Thomas Wentworth HigginsonSamuel Gridley HoweTheodore ParkerFranklin Benjamin SanbornGerrit Smith, and George Luther Stearns. All six had been involved in the abolitionist cause prior to their meeting John Brown, and had gradually become convinced that violence was necessary in order to end American slavery.

To the extent the group had a leader, it was Brown biographer Sanborn. "Some of the money and nearly all the correspondence relating to the contributions passed through my hands in 1858–9. ...[W]e all raised money to aid Brown in carrying this plan forward."[

This is an amazing piece of history, K. Looking at it from both sides gives perspective. I never knew that Missouri was such a truer civil war that even the larger conflict. Write the book!

There are 60,000 plus books written on the topic that no one reads; give me the cliff notes, I'll write my report, they say. The only thing an American is willing to be cheated out of is an education.

About perspective, almost 100 years ago, much to-do was given to Ed Weston's Pepper #30. It, Pepper No. 30, was seen by some as obscene and therefore banned from exhibition, by some. I look at it and see Ansel Adams' assessment of the zone system of exposure as a comprehensive example, 10 years prior to Adams' declaration. On the back of a print of one of his peppers that he gave to a friend, Weston wrote, "As you like it ‒ but this is just a pepper ‒ nothing else ‒ to the impure all things ‒ are impure." It has a Wikipedia page, does that make it a notable?

Here you go Pip, another bit of Americana from the Burnt District Was Lee’s Summit, Missouri by KC named after Robert E Lee? | Kansas City Star

Another choice of what to believe, or not. From John Quinones to Robert Ripley didn't think I would make that connection today!

Absolutely fascinating history. Unfortunately being a Brit, I never learnt about the Civil War at school, so I'm having to catch up. Your post reminded me of one William Pickles, husband of Ann, née Ambler, my 1st cousin, 4x r. Her mother Fanny (my 3rd gt grand aunt) was a Morley, and connects to my paternal grandmother's family tree. 
William Pickles, born in Haworth, Keighley, Yorkshire, England, in 1813, was murdered in the Civil War by bushwhackers, at Farmington, St Francois County, Missouri, on 11 August 1861. Pickles Springs, MO and several other places are named after him.
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Don't feel bad, many Americans are only partially informed, myself included, about the civil war. Like peeling an onion, I fight back a tear with each new layer. In regard to Mr Pickles and John Highly, I can only find this John Highly  John Webster Highley (1838-1904) - Find a Grave Memorial that is likely to be your guy. If he served in the State Guard or regular Confederate Army, he was probably 'labeled' a bushwacker, as they were deemed the lowest common denominator and most vile. True bushwhackers operated outside the regular armies and were given the 'outlaw' tag making them wanted men after the war. For those who did not remove to Texas or go west, returning to civilian life was next to impossible. Hence, many became infamous as outlaws. The border war occurred on the western side of the state where new territories to the west were to be opened and fighting was about whether or not the new states would be free or slave states.

I stand corrected, John Highley (1810-1864) - Find a Grave Memorial. After I read about Pickle Springs, I had to know. Thanks! Highley and Pickles were pretty old given the average age of the typical soldier. Note the date April 1864. This is after Order #11. Any killed that could be categorized as a bushwacker helped to justify one of the most egregious actions of the war.

Ambiguity was prevalent in the day. The Battle of Lone Jack was caused by recruiting efforts by the Confederacy. Eight witnesses testified at his trial before a military commission that Nichols had terrorized Pettis, Henry and Johnson counties. counties to the east of Lone Jack. Accusations against John Nichols 150 YEARS AGO: Condemned guerrilla is hanged in Jefferson City may or may not be accurate. His execution was. Whether in the field or court, those who opposed the Union should expect no quarter.

Yes, apparently, John Highley was to have been arrested and tried, but he was shot on his being captured. I've ordered Bob Schmidt's book which shows all the research he's done on the subject: Civil War Mysteries Solved.

I really wonder what the family back in Yorkshire, England thought when they received the letter with the news of William and Ann's deaths. There's a transcription on it in Ancestry, which I've had for a while, as well as a letter William wrote about a year before his murder, describing his life and mill etc. So interesting.

Civilians were often killed, same as a soldier, for the wrong alliances. Many were indifferent to the issues of slavery, by and large. The eastern side of the state had a much higher population of immigrants, at the time, as St Louis had employment opportunities not afforded to the west along the Kansas border. Many immigrants came through New Orleans and up the Mississippi River to St Louis which was pro union by the war.

The info re: Highly above pretty well sums up how most prisoner exchanges in the field went. Dead Right There. aka, DRT.

Another local author, Tom Rafiner, has done some in depth research on the border war. I'm reading 'Cinders and Silence' which highlights little known facts of the war.
+21 votes
My brothers used to hitch hike for rides home from their service post in the 1950s.  Sometimes they also received a special favor of out of the way for the picker upper.  Always well appreciated.
by Beulah Cramer G2G6 Pilot (569k points)
On the radio, I remember hitchhiker news in the 60's. By the 70's, stark warnings regarding ride sharing of any kind replaced attempts to hook up riders and drivers.
Maybe the uniforms helped.
they were respected back in the day. servicemen and women were portrayed as heroes.
This is exactly true, K! It was a different era.
+20 votes

¡Buenos días a todos from the Old Pueblo! It is 7am and 57F (13.9C) with an expected high of 80F (26.7C) and sunny skies in Tucson.

Much of this week was spent with spring cleaning. I had the heating/air conditioning checked in preparation for summer yesterday. Winter bedding was cleaned and put away. Each day this past week, I cleaned one room from ceiling to floor. I left the spare room and home/office for last because the Geek from Best Buy was here on Tuesday to install the new 32” television in the office and a smaller TV in the spare room. These installations can be messy, so these rooms are the last to be cleaned. I wanted to get these TVs installed because as of June the ‘Total Tech’ package will no longer cover visits to homes free for repairs even if the TVs/computers are under warranty! They will only do no cost if I take the computer or television to the store. Yeah, right…like I am going to lug a desktop computer to Best Buy, or unscrew the 32” TV from the wall with severe stenosis of the lumbar spine. Cindy Cooper was kind enough to give me the name of a computer repair person who will likely be much less costly than Best Buy. I am not sure what I will do about the TVs, though, if something goes wrong with them. Right now, total tech is $200/year, but as of June 2024, in addition to the $200, if I need a home visit for the TV, it will cost $125/visit.

I also went to Xfinity (Comcast) and signed up for their basic NOW cable TV for $20/month, which includes Peacock. I cannot win for losing, though. I donate $60/year (at least) to my local PBS station, which gives me ‘free’ access to PBS shows, like Finding Your Roots, Call the Midwife, All Creatures Great and Small. Naturally, NOW does not list PBS (because they do not include local stations) so the Geek had to ‘jerry rig’ a second remote so that I can leave NOW and go to a different entry access just to get the PBS station. I contacted Xfinity and griped to them about at least adding this station so that those of us who donate do not have to go through this BS. I don’t have the patience or the technical wherewithal for this anyway. If this is not enough, I do not know if it is Xfinity or the new TV, but I noticed that when I watch TV, the lip movements are out of sync with the speech they are producing. For the second time this week, I will be going to Best Buy and Xfinity today to find out which one of these money sucking companies will take responsibility for this crappy reception/poor lip syncing!

The low back pain is starting up again. Fortunately, I have an appointment with the pain specialist on Monday for a steroid injection. I want to chat with him about pain control over time, like getting an injection when needed perhaps every 2.5 months and taking the prednisone ‘six pack’ when the injections start to wear off. The new mattress, which was set up last week does help with the back pain. Sadly, there is no cure. Spine replacements will probably not happen in my lifetime.

 Working on WikiTree has kept me from ‘watching’ TV and getting irritated with the out of sync lips. As of last night, I have gone as far as I can (or want to) with the Whittens of Maine. This weekend, I will contact the Bucks team members to see what they would like to work on, if they want to continue to work on Bucks profiles and such. I will also spend a fair amount of time sourcing several Bucks Baldwin profiles. 

Earlier this week, there was a PGM note about a FindAGrave in New Hampshire for my 8th GGF, Ezekiel Richardson. Ummm…he did not die in New Hampshire. He died in Woburn, Massachusetts and was buried in the old burial ground there, although the headstone, if there ever was one, no longer exists. Ezekiel came over in 1630 with Winthrop’s fleet. I did find that his children listed in his profile would benefit from some extra information based on Anderson’s work, which I will also do this weekend. I also recalled that Ezekiel was one of the supporters of Anne Hutchinson and Rev. John Wheelwright in the Antinomian Controversy (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hutchinson and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wheelwright). Anne and Wheelwright were banished. She went to Rhode Island and he to Exeter, New Hampshire in 1838. Ezekiel (see https://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/anne.html) and several others ‘recanted’ their support and their names were ‘erased’ from the ‘Wheelwright’ situation. I am thinking that the New Hampshire ‘FindAGrave’ might be related to this ‘scandal’ rather than a death location for Ezekiel Richardson. I am going to add some information to his profile about this ‘scandal’ as well. Wikipedia suggests that Anne Hutchinson was the ‘model’ for Hester Prynne in Hawthorne’s The Scarlett Letter.

Pip, as ever, thank you for leading the Weekend Chat. Another week closer to seeing you! I also want to wish all my WikiTree friends and family a great FOURTH weekend of March 2024!

 

by Carol Baldwin G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
edited by Carol Baldwin
BS- is that an abbreviation for bureaucratic simplification or system? The only thing that concerns them is your $60 donation.
Hi K...you know BS is ********; however, Bureaucratic Simplification is nice. Reminds me of the acronyms I learned from the soldiers I taught on Okinawa...like SNAFU!
BOHICA and FUBAR ring a familiar toll.
*takes notes* This is very fascinating. =D

Stay warm, Carol. It's wicked cold here.

You know, I could totally go to Woburn for you and check that out if Friday traffic going there wasn't bad. At least you got thinks sorted, Carol!
Ciao Cousin Chris, I forgot that Haverhill was just down the road a bit from Woburn. I will remember that for future! I have been to Woburn several times. I especially love their library. I even have a library card that says 'Wicked Smaht'!

Time to go to Best Buy and Xfinity to gripe!
Okay, that might be the most Massachusetts library cahd evah. =D

Nice. =D Have fun with Xfinity and Best Buy.

Carol, Anne's father's stance on an educated clergy ("Her father was an Anglican cleric in London with strong Puritan leanings, who felt strongly that a clergy should be well educated and clashed with his superiors on this issue.") finally took root. In my own province a bachelor's plus a seminary master's are required for clergy now, as in all the other Continuing Anglican provinces. 

I hope you get that pain taken care of. You must be miserable when the injections start to wear off. Back pain can be so debilitating.

Some different than a rebellious cousin of mine, that about 25 years ago, enrolled in one of those two week long programs that gave out "minister" licenses.  He was going to declare his income tax records some how to take advantage of it.  He quickly changed his mind when he found out his PAY would be the collection the last Sunday of the month, not a regular salary.
I have a BA in criminal justice. A BA or BS, in anything, was a requirement for employment 40 years ago. Since you can make far more money doing almost anything and recruitment is low, that requirement has been dropped. The majority of felony convictions are now overlooked if you have fulfilled your supervision requirements. Oh well, at least I know what BS is whether I see it, hear it or read it.
@Pip...I added a paragraph about my 8th GGF Ezekiel Richardson, who supported Anne and her brother-in-law John Wheelwright, then recanted several months later when John Winthrop was Governor. John and Anne were banished. That situation caused quite an uproar in Puritan New England. Eventually, Ezekiel became a founder of Woburn. The Wiki profiles for and and John are really excellent. Thanks for your feedback on the Anglican training.
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laughChecking in from Bloomington, Illinois, USA 36F (rain moving in toward us!) Yard needs mowing again!

Home Front:  I have two great retirement jobs and only worked 3 days the entire month of March! I need a 3rd great retirement job, I guess!

Genealogy Front: Reached 66,666 contributions on March 19th at exactly 2 pm CST and got so excited I posted about it in Photos on the G2G...netted 24 up votes and 2 down votes!devil I guess that 666 number really freaks out some peeps!no Well, I'm moving on to 77,777 for the next milestone, probably in a year!angel Click >>>Post Here!

Also, signed up for the NEWT TEAM for the 2024 Connet-A-Thon. Betsy K, my cousin, made me a coach!laugh 22 Newts on the list...oh my, that is a lot of coaching! So, I created a free space page and made some Tutorials on Sourcer, Sourcer set up, and how to use the different sites to find sources and add biography information.  Took parts of 2 days and I'm not done.

Contributions for the month of March soared to 2,481 (I really need to get out of the house!)

The Book:  Stuck in researching, another writer's block has set in!

 Other Stuff: Cindy and I had family pictures taken for our 50th Wedding Anniversary! I'm getting better at Photo Shop, as I got the copyright info removed on this proof!devil  ( also cleaned up those brown spots on my bald head!surprise

WikiTree Hugs to all the peepsyes and cousins!heart

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.6m points)
David, since even the British Royals use Photo Shop, why not doing the same.
Kate and Cindy have new pastures for the practice of photo
shopping heads.
Lovely photo, David (and thanks for the preview)!

You also did a little fhoto shop on your belly cousin buddy David?

Why, why? American pie laugh

@Richard: I could give myself a six pack in the mid section, GREAT IDEA!enlightened Ill have to study phot shop some more to do that!

Cute photo.
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Hello to all.

Now we enjoy nice spring weather. Our apartment is clean, we are ready for a 10 days trip to the Netherlands. Sunday, early in the morning we leave by train and will be at 5pm in Delft, the Netherlands. We are optimistic, the trains wil run as promised by the timetable.

Between 1965 and 1973 I travelled mostly hitch hiking - and it worked very well. In 1968 my trip ended 100 km south of Skopje (Yugoslavia, now North-Macedonia) where a nice American family (with 2 kids 7 & 9) took me with them to travel Greece. They were heading for Israel, so I joyned them. After 8 months we (my future wife and me) went after the boat trip Haifa - Istanbul hitch hiking through Greece, Yugolavia, Italy to Switzerland to visit my wife's family. 20 years later we wouldn't let our children do the same!

My genealogical activity is still focussed on the fishermen from Moddergat, 83 who lost their lives in 1883. By adding more generations (back- and forward) I found that most (abt 95%) is closely related to eachother. Almost all families were mourning for years. Only very few widows remarried, there were nearly no men left over. Only one widow migrated in 1907 to the US with her first destination Raymond, Minnesota. her youngest son was already since 1903 in the States and lived in Minnesota, later the family went to Chicago and Kalamazoo. I will look into this after finishing the research in the Frisian archives.

Tonight we visit concert #4 in the series of 18 concerts covering the complete Bach-organ-works.

Enjoy a nice weekend
by Klaas Jansen G2G6 Mach 4 (40.8k points)

Klaas, I had this desire to hitchhike, but knew nothing about how to support the endeavor, plus other things got in the way. I admire your passion to follow your dream.

A switch from Back (my favorite composer) to Dmitri Shostakovich, I'm listening to his Symphony #10. The second movement is a brilliant piece of work.

Pip, I am not a regular listener to Shostakovich. So I listened his 10th and yes the 2nd movement is impressive, but maybe I am too old for this music. Like 50 years ago when my collegue (editor in the publishing house where I was the salesmanager) stated that I am too young for Bruckner (I think I still am) and now I think I am too old for Shostakovich. So I keep to the Barock and Classical as well Romantic composers. But in life concerts I do enjoy also more modern works but stay to my 'taste'.
Hoi meneer Klaas

When you started hich hiking I was born in '73.

Have a nice trip to Delft.

greetings Richard
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Hails and horns, Wikipeeps!

It is 27 degrees here in Salem and windy. But, we New Englanders are a hearty people. We will still complain about the cold. Some even venture out wearing shorts for some odd reason. I think it might be a macho thing. Yeah. It probably is. Not a good look, guys. Just saying. I'd rather be warm than cold.

ANYWAY! On the genealogy front, I posted a blog about my grandfather using a mailstation: https://allroadhaverhill.blogspot.com/2024/03/52-ancestors-week-12-technology.html

I even went so far as to go into my old Yahoo email to fish out the emails we sent to each other. I should forward them and a few other nuggets to my gmail. Some of the stuff is good. But, a lot of it involves me typing a long message and mailstation just eating it. So many limitations. Sigh....

Last night there was a genealogy 101 meeting at the Atkinson library to help people break brick walls. I was gonna go but the most I could do was introduce myself to the genealogist hosting the event and give them a Wikitree card. Man, I should have done it like Nick Fury and wear a Wikitree shirt. =)  Maybe next time.

Instead I went out to dinner with my mom and we did some shopping at ze Target. We needed batteries and a few other odds and ends. Was a good night. But, I don't think I'd have gotten anything out of the genealogy 101 event. The most I could've done was talk up this site a bit. Maybe next time.

Besides dinner was good at Tuscan as always and I really needed a fix of chocolate gelato. I was having one of those days.

Not much going on on the non genealogy front. It is deceptiviely nice and bright out there. I would still stay inside.

Oh! I am now up to thirty charts of cousins I need to figure out on Ancestrydna. So, I am ready to use the new Ancestry comparison tool. I wish they'd let me be a beta tester. =D That'd be cool.

I hope everyone is doing well. Have a great weekend!!
by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (768k points)

One more bad storm headed your way! But then all storms lead to Haverhill! Great blog on tech! Speaking of tech those old ancestors could do some amazing things! How did they build the pyramids, the cathedrals and cross the Mississippi River? They were tech savy,  just in another time!wink And they managed to get us born! surprise

Yes. But, I think we can handle it. =D Dunno about storms leading to Haverhill. But, it'll be a "wicked pissah". =D
Chris & Dave:

The 'wicked pissa' storm will visit my side of the state (straight west from you, Chris, on your side of the state) around 11 pm this evening. While northern New Hampshire will be celebrating the arrival of a foot or more of snow, the Monadnock Region where I reside will dodge power outages caused by about an inch of ice and freezing rain. Dangerous conditions for man and beast alike!
Stay warm, Candyce!! Dunno how much we're getting here in the Merrimack valley. We'll see. Ironically we just put away the markers for the plows. Whoops.

As my father-in-law used to say ... "that'll learn ya!"

laugh

Come on. It was like 50 degrees out for a week!!
Great blog this week, Chris (as usual). Reminded me of a story my mom told me about telephones. During the Depression, my grandfather worked for Duke Power, so the family was shielded from many of the effects of that era. He had the only telephone in the neighborhood, and often neighbors who needed this would come by and ask. Grandpa always allowed the phone calls.
That's pretty cool of your grandfather to do that, Pip. =D
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Hi from southern Ontario,

Chez moi/at home: what's been happening? There are mysteries! 

Mystery #1. While watching a movie it doesn’t matter which movie, and wearing my slippers, my foot started to itch I took the slipper off to find a bug bite on the top of my foot small, red, raised and very itchy, about an hour later I found another bug bite on the sole of my foot. It’s winter, there are definitely no mosquitos either outside or inside. I didn’t find any insect corpses in the slipper.

Mystery #2. Back in January I made a reservation by email with my contact information (as instructed on the website) at a side of the road motel for 25 June, the first night of our planned trip to the East Coast. I had not received a confirmation or any sort of reply, so on Wednesday, I called the motel to make sure a room was booked. The proprietor said ‘we don’t pay any attention to emails because most of them are spam!’  My thought, why not get a new email, why not say call for a reservation. 

Mystery #3. The person I referred to last week, who has been creating duplicates regularly since August for a branch of Robbie’s family. I left a comment for the person asking why this was happening as the existing profiles should show up when the duplicate is being created. And was told they have 30 unconnected profiles for the family and they need to be connected. I’m confused! 

WikiTree and family history: not much was accomplished, I updated some profiles on my watchlist that had not been edited since late 2020. 

What else: I spent much of my time this week booking accommodation and planning for our summer trip, I went to the dentist, watched snow falling, there is more to come today. And finally sorted some things in my basement that were stashed down there because of our reno in 2022/2023.

And last of all I found a quote in a book I’m reading that fits family history research perfectly! 

A posse as esse;  translates to;  From possibility to actuality

by M Ross G2G6 Pilot (734k points)
M, I have a profile in mind that I created back in 2019 for which I really need to get a bio written. I seem to stumble across old profiles of my that need attention. I am embarrassed by them.

Love that quote!
Hi M I try to go back to my early 2018 (horrible) profiles and update a couple each week - it doesn't hurt that I can add them to one of the missions for the 16 too but it's good to have a review and add sources that didn't exist 6 years ago.
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Hello WikiTree Cousins...

In front of our house we own an acre of land--almost square--which separates us from our nearest neighbor's property. Early Wednesday morning--about 2:00 a.m., our neighbor's house caught fire and burned to the ground. Our neighbors were able to get out of the house. They were taken to the hospital for observation due to smoke inhalation, but were soon released. They lost all their belongings except what they were wearing--even their car was burned up in the fire. I have not been told what caused the fire, if they even know yet. Red Cross was there to help the family almost immediately. Because of the distance between us, we were never in any personal danger. Our other neighbors, though, live much closer to the house which burned, conditions are very dry here, and the wind was blowing in their direction so firefighters returned three times on Wednesday to douse the embers again when they would rekindle. The house has continued to smolder.

Last night my husband forgot to bring his bird feeder in and I forgot to check that he had. About 3:30 a.m. I heard some loud noises. When I looked out to see what was happening, I saw the largest bear I've ever seen, sitting and eating from the bird feeder. I was able to scare the bear off by setting off the car alarm, but the bear dragged the bird feeder off when he left.

I've been nervous and distracted, have not slept well since the night of the fire, and have not gotten much work done on WikiTree this week.

I hope you all have a very good weekend!
by Nelda Spires G2G6 Pilot (564k points)
I'll take the bear any day over fire. A friend and neighbor lost his barn about three weeks ago. No telling what was lost.
Nelda, we also had a fire nearby. The owners, both retired, were at the hospital (she having recently broken her hip - she also is in the early stages of dementia). The house burned tot he ground and they lost everything except the clothes they were wearing and his car. So very sad.

And... at this tome last year, we had a bear raid OUR birdfeeders. I haven't put any seed out since then. Haven't seen a bear yet, but they're around. We get neighborhood notices when somebody sees one.
K. Smith, you're right. No equivalence. The fire was horrifying.
Pip, I'm sorry for your neighbors. I suppose it was a good thing they were not at home, but I am sure they are devastated.
Just flipped on the tube and there is a bear cub causing a disturbance at a bird feeder on North Wood's Law. He/she was actually quite adorable. We are starting to get very random sightings here now that dispensaries have opened.
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Good Morning to All!

My husband, son, dog and I are at their hunting camp for the weekend. We arrived Wednesday afternoon and buckled down for a stormy day yesterday - really black clouds and pouring rain into the night. Now, it is quite muddy but this is an area of Texas that will dry out quickly - we hope! The other two families, daughters, husbands and one grandson will arrive this afternoon. Hunting season is over but they want to do some work and move the campers into a new configuration. I will exit to the camp house on site and continue my online pursuits while all that is going on!!

The past two weeks have been quite exciting for my genealogy pursuits. The new FamilySearch AI has presented new documents on my elusive William Warren O'Neal who  previously was last seen in Morgan County, Georgia as a minor and he did not reappear until the 1840 census in Rapides Parish, Louisiana with a wife and three daughters. Now, we have records from Marengo County, Alabama at just the right time for the three girls to have been born in 1832, 1834 and 1836 in Alabama which is always what they said on census records. And, to top it off there are a couple of land sales where his wife, Margaret, released her dower rights to the land. Whew!! This has been a journey of decades. We still do not have Margaret's maiden name but we have locations better nailed down.

I hope everyone has a wonderful spring weekend and week ahead! See you all next Friday!
by Virginia Fields G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Never did hunting and camping at the same time, Ginny. We went out for the day (when I was much younger) and were back home that same night.

Family Search AI? I must have missed the notice? What's up with that?
Pip, FS AI is the best thing since sliced bread for the genealogy world. Sign in to your FS account and on the first (landing ) page scroll down a bit until you see Family Search Labs on the right. Click on View Experiments and then  under "Expand your Search with Full Text" click on "Go to Experiment" There will be a Keyword box - put in a county + state and another box will open for a name, etc. Just play with these until you find what you want. Unindexed records will appear and you have to scroll through them but when you find one you want, click on it and you will go to the actual record on FamilySearch. I have found several heretofore unknown land records including land grants for my O'Neals. There is also a short video that explains how to use it.

About the hunting and camping - our camping is in a very nice travel trailer with all the amenities of home including very comfortable lounge chairs just like home!! We are way past the roughing it type of camping!
OH WOW!!!!! I just tried it an BOOM! Some great stuff came up. I can't wait to dig into this more. Thanks, Ginny!
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NeWT here!

I'm quite a mutt, so my family's genealogy is pretty varied, sometimes painful to read, and full of dead ends (e.g., no data about a Native American ancestor), ambiguity (e.g., which solder/slaver was the father?) and messy data (e.g., name spellings change all the time).

I look forward to learning how to be reasonably helpful and perhaps finding some interesting stories/connections.

This weekend my wife and I are heading to a (rather chilly) beach for a few days, and on the way we're going to swing by a Maryland cemetery in which several of my family (the birth family of my maternal grandfather's mother) are buried. Should be interesting.

Peace!

by Paul Thomas G2G1 (1.2k points)
Hi Paul and welcome to WikiTree and to the Weekend Chat.

You will notice a multitude of interesting discussions, many stories and varied topics here on the Weekend Chat..

If you need help with how to, what to, what not to, just ask in the WikiTree help forum

Hi Paul! You got my message!laugh Thank you for joining in the Weekend Chat! You can always get help on the forum, but in here you can get some WikiTree love, and all of us need that! (and you can get help in here also)  

Tells us about yourself, where you live, what the  day is like, what you want to do in WikiTree, what you need help with, a story about your family! Anything and everything goes down in here!wink

I live in Northern Virginia (just West of Washington, DC). 

I put the top down on my '05 Wrangler about 10 days ago, but the next few days' temps will struggle to hit 50.

A friend of mine told me about WikiTree, so I'm here to 

  1. Move my genealogy stuff from ancestry.com (which is paid) and onto this open, collaborative site.
  2. Get help digging into some of the murky areas of my family tree.
  3. See how I can help.
A story about my family: My great great grandfather was a whaler from Cape Verde who emigrated to Rhode Island. I've seen his name on ship manifests in the Sandwich Islands (aka Hawaii) and on census records in Northern California around the time of the gold rush.

Paul that is good stuff! On WikiTree, you can have "Free Space" pages, as many as you want. I have many free space pages for family stories, where our family burials are, pictures and graphics that I use on the forum, research and cheat sheets so I remember how to do stuff.  Go to my profile page, and in the "Contents" menu, you will see 1.9 Free Space Pages. This just scratches the surfaces of how one can use free space in WikiTree.  Take special note of a free space page called: April 2024 Connect-A-Thon Cheat Sheet Click Here  You may not want to be part of the Thon, but you will be light years ahead of the game if you study this page!  Private message me for help!wink

Welcome to the Chat, Paul, and thanks for dropping in. Your genealogy, except for the Native American ancestry, sounds an awful like so many of us here, so we can commiserate with you. Keep [plugging away. You'll eventually make some discoveries.

Vacations and cemeteries... why does this sound familiar? laugh

Hi Paul and welcome. We all have to start somewhere. Wikitree can be a bit daunting at first but there are many of us willing to help or just steer you in the right direction. So all you have to do is ask.

PS The whater sounds fascinating
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Cool and cloudy with mist over Everett, Washington this morning. The little shamrocks are appearing. Yellow forsythia is in full bloom. Cherry blossoms have peaked.

Husband and I are exploiting our dog, using him to get likes on husband's Facebook page when he uploads the latest quilt top I have finished. Dog will pose (for a reward) beside the quilt top on the floor. The latest one is in Halloween colors, using Halloween fabric in a very scrappy design. It combines Edgar Allan Poe's verse with Darth Vader fabric from Star Wars. My daughter said they go together because Anakin Skywalker is pining over the lost Padme, like Poe for the lost Lenore.

Last night I finally found a connection for singer Lou Rawls. "You'll never find..." was a challenge for me, but I did find it, building the branch to include a couple of Negro League baseball stars. See my other G2G post from last night. Back to football players from the February Super Bowl Legends Challenge. These days, I work under the radar to make connections, and pop up every so often to make an announcement.

On Monday the kids and I are going to a Byzantine Rite Mass for the Feast of the Annunciation. More standing than kneeling, which is a mercy for my knees.

Still preparing for our trip. I plan to take lots of pictures of Brownsville, Oregon for my One Place Study. Hope I can find a person there who can bring me up to speed on recent events. The Calapooia Valley was spared from wildfire the past few years, but Brownsville got lots of smoke from fires to the north and south.

Tomorrow I meet with people at the Sno-Isle Genealogical Society Library for the Brick Walls session. One of my people from last time wrote a very complimentary letter about me and the SIGS at MyEdmondsTimes. I told her, though, it's not usually this easy!

Here's to breaking down more of those walls.
by Margaret Summitt G2G6 Pilot (320k points)
Ooh, I love the idea of your Edgar Allan Poe / Darth Vader quilt!
Margaret, I know you are going to have as busy a week as I am, what with Holy Week coming up. I'd love to see a Byzantine Rite service. That would be new for me.
Hi Margaret I love the way your daughter compared Anakin and Poe - very creative. I also love the idea of the quilt.
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Happy Friday morning from drizzly western Washington!

We had lovely, warm weather to start the week, so I didn't get much genealogy work done. I did get a few bare-root shrubs in the ground, and have my hanging baskets potted up and in the greenhouse. I was even able to get a round of golf in on Tuesday. 
Now, the uniformly gray skies have returned, and they're promising us more rain to come. (They've been saying that since Wednesday.) Hopefully, that means I'll have an excuse to do genealogy.

Speaking of genealogy:
Last week I took a break from my St. Croix slavery project to do some CC7 work. That's when I discovered that my grand-uncle's wife was actually adopted. So, I had to go back and mark her parents as "non-biological" and, just to be certain, I attached some of her children to the Big Tree via their spouses. I also made sure that her adoptive parents were connected to the tree, so I can detach them if I ever find her biological parents.

As for my St. Croix project, I ended up making a form in Google Sheets that lists each of the enslaved who at least have a citable birth year, along with other information. Then, I created a generic biography with categories and research notes. For most of the 200+ enslaved people on my chart, I'll be able to use that generic bio and just fill in the blanks that I've provided for myself. 
I make it sound complicated, but it ends up making things easier when it comes time to create the profiles. I know which tax forms to look at, and can keep everyone straight.

It's still slow going, but I'm able to spend about five minutes per profile this way.

by Katrina Lawson G2G6 Mach 4 (49.0k points)
Katrina, we haven't even started to plant anything yet. We have to wait until Mothers' Day to make sure the last frost is done. Waiting, waiting, waiting. Instead, I think I'll head out to clear some brushy areas and plan what I want to plant there.
Hi Katrina have you signed up for the next Sourceathon? You would do quite well creating profiles with your spreadsheet
Pip, the only thing I’ve put in the ground so far are natives, so the weather is what they expect already.

Amanda, I hadn’t thought about the Sourceathon. Hmmm
+22 votes

Hello again everyone, 3rd week chatter, still getting the hang of this.  Basically just using it like a completion diary.  My personal life is entirely uninteresting.

So let's start with James Clavell.  I've been enjoying the new series of Shogun - funnily enough before it arrived I felt a hankering to rewatch the old Richard Chamberlain version but I've held off on that so that whatever I don't remember won't be spoiled.  Thought I might look the author up on Wikitree, and found him, all lonely and unconnected.  So (as you do) I went on a parent hunt, father Richard Clavell, Royal Navy officer, on attachment to the Royal Australian Navy when James was born.  He too already had a WT profile, though not notable enough for Wikipedia he had a Dreadnought Project profile which confirmed his posting with the RAN.  I think it's safe to assume there aren't a whole lot of other British naval officers called Clavell in Australia in 1921, though I did eventually find a confirming biographical mention.  Richard was connected but I found him without a wife.  Easily fixed, there were biographical hints and I found the marriage record.  She was the daughter of a semi-notable (no Wikipedia but remembered in her field) journalist.  So mother, father and child were all on Wikitree but (before I came along) all unconnected to each other.  I don't think that's happened to me before, certainly not with a notable.

I've been filling up the categories of the TV programmes I found, and creating (Connected) profiles where not too much trouble, or where I'm outraged none exist.  Even got a few living notables added with the help of the England project - King Charles is now on the Jackanory page.

I have created new (connected) profiles for Cyril Luckham (Doctor Who's White Guardian), Deryck Guyler (I claim him as family because he played Corky the policeman in Sykes!), his childhood next-door-neighbour Anna Ziegler, her husband Webster Booth, Tony Booth (no relation to Webster, that I've found, but with some impressive yet-to-be-connected connections!). 

Actually I tell a lie.  Tony Booth is not yet connected, and his notable living daughter is out of reach to me.  I found one of his wives, Pat Phoenix (Elsie Tanner from Corrie) but unfortunately she isn't connected either and her family history is a hard slog.  Let's just say at least two branches of her family have an admitted record of providing misleading family information...  There may yet be mileage in Tony's parents, Pat's FindAGrave appears to confirm they were who I thought they were.

Willie Rushton already had a profile but is now connected, same goes for Albert Steptoe himself, Wilfred Brambell.

I saw a news story that the oldest former England football player, Ron Baynham had died, so I rustled up a profile for him, although full disclosure, I'd never heard of him.  That goes for Ziegler and Webster Booth too.  Hopefully someone has heard of them and appreciates their presence on the Big Tree!

With successes come failures, and I have to admit defeat (so far!) on connecting Tommy Handley (that's a Familysearch link), who was famous in the 1940s for a radio show called It's That Man Again (ITMA).  It's especially frustrating because his wife had the surname Allistone and her mother was a Mackerness, those seem like distinctive, easily traceable names.  But none of the Allistones or Mackernesses connect to anyone on Wikitree, or married anyone connected to anyone, so far as I've found.  Feel free to jump in, I probably have missed something.  Anyway if you want a laugh, or at least a few minutes of complete bemusement, check out his and his (soon to be) wife's 1936 record, Have You Seen My Chickens.

I was going to mention his comedy partner Ronald Frankau and his interesting family (he is Peep Show writer Sam Bain's grandfather), but I don't think I can top the chickens.  So we shall leave it there.

Happy hunting everyone!

by Stephen Corkey G2G6 Mach 2 (21.8k points)
I have proposed a merge of Tony Booth (Booth-13048, orphaned profile), who died in 2017, and Living Booth (Booth-1780).  The latter appears to also be the private father of Cherie (Booth) Blair CBE KC (Booth-1730).  When the merge is completed, the manager of the private profile will hopefully agree that the merged profile should be made a notable.  Tony Booth has Wikipedia pages in 12 languages, which certainly qualifies him for WikiTree notability.
There's a new Shogun series? Where can I find it?

I have read every book James Clavell wrote and have the Richard Chamberlain Shogun series on DVD.
It's an FX series, I'm watching it on the Disney platform in the UK but I don't know about providers in other territories.

Thanks Paddy, I see the profile manager has already done a seamless merge and the profile is now public (and unmanaged).  It looks like he kept pretty much all my additions in.  I am delighted that Tony and Pat are connected!  I may look more into his parents at some stage.

Perhaps it is a good thing I didn't find the existing profile, otherwise I'd have probably just walked away, or left a message for the profile manager asking for the categories to be added (as I've done on some other profiles).  On this occasion the outcome seems to have worked out much better in terms of connectivity.  

I have adopted a policy (when I remember) of removing myself as manager of potentially notable profiles so others can make that determination with a free hand and apply any changes they think appropriate without feeling obstructed.  I have no desire to obstruct anyone and it's generally better to get out of their way before they arrive.
I remember the Richard Chamberlain version of Shogun. I LOVED that series. I didn't know there was a newer version. I'd like to see that!
+21 votes
Spring as sprung! I love the flowering trees and early spring flowers. I have cut some of my daffodils and brought them inside to enjoy their wonderful smell and bright faces. I notice that I have fewer plants, so I may need to replant some areas. We have several types of daffies, and we like Ice Follies and especially Sir Winton Churchill, which is a double daffodil and very fragrant. (Highly recommended!) When I first met my guy, he brought over 80 cut daffodils from his garden. My apartment smelled heavenly for days!

Haven't done much in the way of genealogy lately, since it is spring cleaning time. But we will have a rainy day soon where I can work on the tree. Hope everyone finds at least one amazing family story this week!
by Michelle Enke G2G6 Pilot (426k points)
Michelle, we did the same... cut daffodils for inside beauty. Sadly, we have so few, and I keep looking over at my neighbor's yard and his multiple clusters. I'll have to check out the Churchill versions.
Pip, ask your neighbors for a small trowel full donation from the middle of his plots.  It gives his more room to expand and not have to dig up and transplant quite so quick,  and maybe give you a cheap and easy way to expand your plots.
Good idea, Beulah. I'll do just that!
If he or she is like most gardeners you will come home with more than you want to take the time and energy to replant.
Be prepared to run.
+22 votes

Happy Equinox from the foothills of the Catalinas!  Spring arrives a little later here than it did back in the Valley of the Sun.  I've finally been able to respond to the itch to plant that always rolls around this time of year: agaves, penstemons and agastaches to attract hummingbirds... unfortunately it turns out the cute little desert cottontails that frequent my back yard like to nibble on desert marigolds, so I may be purchasing some chickenwire soon.  It's nice to be able to sit out on the patio into the evening without a coat.  There's a constant orchestra of birdsong during the day sometimes coyotes yipping out on the golf course at twilight.

On the Genealogical front, I finally wrapped up my 2nd GG Thomas Andrew Johnston and his 13-odd children (he was married twice and the parentage on some is obscure).  It was really wearing after a while; farming in Nova Scotia in the 1880s was a tough life and there was no concept of birth control. Mother dies of childbirth or consumption, youngest children go to live with relatives, oldest children go to work, some children just disappear between census years.  I do get a great deal of satisfaction documenting more "obscure" lives from a bare thumblefull of scattered clues, who might not have left what we would consider a legacy.  I'm relieved to be able to put a bow on this branch of the family tree for now.

In happier news, I got an Ancestry DNA hit that led to the discovery of a branch of the Inglis family in South Africa.  Apparently I have a great granduncle whose son volunteered in the Boer War and remained in Pretoria, so putting those profiles together is fun and educational.

Take care everyone, and drive safe!

by Nancy Freeman G2G6 Mach 3 (36.8k points)
Nancy, sometimes when one of our daughters will call and we are sitting on the back deck, they comment on how it sounds like an aviary over the phone. We love our little chickadees and titmice who visit us on the regular, loo0king for seed I'll out on the banister. Unfortunately, the squirrels have figured this out, too.
Great work on your Nova Scotia people!
+23 votes

Howdy folks! Greetings from gloomy, rainy central Oklahoma USA! It's been raining for the last two days, and man we needed it. If the rain holds off next week, I'm planning on doing the first tilling of the garden around Tuesday or Wednesday. It's supposed to cool down a bit next week, so we'll have to play it by ear. I did find a package of 3 asparagus crowns at WalMart for $3.24, so I'm looking forward to another batch of asparagus growing next to the ones we already have. Everything else will have to wait. We hate waiting. 

I got my entry fees paid for the 5k race on 4/13 and the OKC Memorial half marathon on 4/28. Things just got very real. wink My training is going well, but I stepped in a hole while mowing earlier in the week, and pulled something on the top of my left foot. I walked for 2 hrs this morning with minimal pain, Luckily, I'm off over the weekend so it'll be the good ol' RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) to try and knock out any other discomfort. I don't heal like I used to......

Genealogy-wise, I was really excited to find my great grandfather Vaskie's migration record! No one ever knew where he came into the country, but now we know he came in at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on the SS Pennland, which left out of Antwerp, Belgium in 1902. He had $8 in his pocket. This, hopefully, will help with finding out what happened to his parents, sisters, and how their last names were changed. Apparently, Viszokay, or Viszokai, was a bit much for early 20th Century Americans. 

Tonight we are having dinner with some friends of ours. I'm making shepards pie, and our friends are making fried pies. Our friend, Donna, is a baking wizard, so I'm looking forward to dessert tonight!

Thanks Pip for being the host with the most, and I hope everyone has a great weekend!

Until next time....

John

by John Vaskie G2G6 Pilot (217k points)
John, I never knew Vaskie was originally a Hungarian surname, or at least from Hungary. I have such plain ancestry, I would have loved to have something a little more unique amongst my lines. Congrats on the find!
Hey John Wow 5k and a second one 2 weeks later. I hope you have good weather for them both. Take care
Thanks Pip! According to my 23 & Me report I'm 34% Hungarian.
Thanks Amanda!

I'm hoping for fair skies, but springtime in Oklahoma can be a bit sketchy. I'll walk in any kind of weather, but not while its lightning.
We used to have an funeral undertaker at our golf course in Florida that exited any game he was playing in when he saw lightening.  He said he had buried too many people who had ignored the danger and passed through his business.
I've fished through tornado warnings and thunderstorms, back when I was 10 foot tall and bulletproof. Now that I'm just shy of my three score and ten, why temp fate!
+22 votes

On this day:

1832: The German author, poet, statesman and scientist Johann Wolfgang von Goethe dies

1945: The Arab League is founded

1995: The Russian cosmonaut Valery Polyakov returned from the Space Station "Mir" after 437 days in space

by Jelena Eckstädt G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Fun fact: I worked the whole day on the biography for Goethe without realising that it's his death anniversary today.
I read up on Goethe early this morning, Jelena, and finally after about an hour of following links, I stopped. This happened to me yesterday when I was reading up on the Wurtemburg family. I found out that the Duke of Bavaria is the Jacobite heir to the throne of Britain. Link follows link. It's an enjoyable exercise for me. Thanks for the lesson, Professor!
Pip, when I have finished the bio of Goethe here, I will link the profile here. It won't take you one hour to read that, I promise.
Hi Jelena, of the three choices, I will go with Goethe...author, poet, statesman and SCIENTIST! I would love to see your profile of him when done! Thank you!

How interesting. Here are some pictures of the Goethe Säule, just 30 minutes walk from where I live!

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Funny how Wiki works. Before today I had no connection to the Danver name. Through you, I see we are both descendants of a Danver. Your post of Goethe Saule and a random check to see if I am related Samuel Gridley and Julia Ward Howe, my ggrandmother Jennie Lou Howe, and Danvers is part of my connection to her and Goethe is mentioned on Julia's Wikipedia page as she published an assay on him.

Ah yes, the Danvers family - that notorious crew! laugh 
You're right about those coincidences - they seem to crop up all the time. Such fun!

+24 votes

Virtual Vacation!

Calling all old western movie fans!

During our recent visit to Tucson, we visited the Mescal Movie Set in Benson, Arizona.  

Our visit included a walking tour of the site and an absolute goldmine of information about the movies that were shot on the site. Including recently the Quick and the Dead, Tombstone and Buffalo Soldiers. It was thoroughly fascinating.

Almost all of the buildings are movable, the interiors have staircases that go nowhere. 

This is the undertakers and the livery stable.

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This is the hotel/saloon. Despite it looking like it is made of bricks it is constructed of foam blocks, you can push a finger against the 'brick' and feel it give under your finger.

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‘The Mescal Movie Set is a historic western film location that has been shooting the West since 1950. Located in Benson, Arizona, this iconic set has been home to over 80 movies and TV shows, including Tombstone, The Quick and the Dead, and Outlaw Josey Wales. Featuring 28 authentic buildings, a saloon, a jail, a church, and a livery stable’, this information is from a local tourism website.

In the movie Tombstone these 2 buildings are the homes of Virgil and Wyatt Earp.

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This yellow building has been moved many times, it's easy as behind the exterior there is nothing.

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This church was seen in Tombstone and was also a church in Little House on the Prairie, not visible in this photo, the staircase on the left leads to the office of Dr Baker in Little House on the Prairie. 

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This is the jail in the Quick and the Dead.

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This house is the building that was burnt in Buffalo Soldiers.

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This is the interior of the saloon with all of the information on the blackboard about the characters in the shooting contest in the Quick and the Dead.

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The movies start with Winchester 73 made in 1950 and starring Jimmy Stewart, Shelly Winters, Dan Duryea, John McIntyre, Stephen McNulty and most recent in 2023 The Vast Lonesome starring Abe Ruthless, Ashlye Gambill and Garrett Boyd. 

If you are a old western movie fan and are in the area I recommend a visit. 

For more information about the movies shot at this site all the information is on their website.

https://www.mescalmovieset.com/history

by M Ross G2G6 Pilot (734k points)

This is SOOOOOO cool!  I love your pictures! Thanks for sharing!laugh

I really need to convince my brother to plan on a visit to the movie set my next time out, M. Thanks for the perfect photos!
Pip, you have to book online $15 per person Fridays and Saturdays only at  10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 1:00, 2:00, tours are only available between film productions.

The available tour dates are on their website.

Hi M, your photos are terrific. I have been to the Mescal set several times. I mentioned that my dissertation advisor, Mary York and I were 'almost' extras in the Quick and the Dead. Mary's son, Tim, was a prop master on the film. Sadly, we had to teach and could not be 'on set' every day as needed (called continuity in the biz). So we missed out on meeting a young Russell Crowe (his first US film), a very young Leo di Caprio, and the great Gene Hackman, and Sharon Stone, who produced the film.

There is another movie studio even older than the Mescal set. It is the Old Tucson Movie Studios, built ca. 1940 for the film Arizona. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tucson_Studios) It is in the western side of Tucson near Gates Pass. I have taken my family there for years, and recruited actors from Old Tucson for my dissertation. There was a very bad fire there about 10 years ago; however, they have recovered, restored and reopened about a year or so ago. That needs to be on your list for your next visit to Tucson, M and Robb! Most of the John Wayne flicks were filmed there and sets were used for several Frank Sinatra films. The Wikipedia link that I included lists all of the films that had something to do with Old Tucson.

Thank you M, for bringing Mescal to life and putting a spotlight on the many contributions that Tucson has made to the film industry! 

We looked at the old Tucson website, it's a bit too theme park like for me.
Winchester 73 was a fabulous movie! I watched during the Literature and Film class.
Some of those pictures bring back memories of of some good shows that I watched on TV.

Hi M, Old Tucson is, in part a theme park, which they make clear in their information. A part of the reason is that Old Tucson has large indoor sets, where movies are made, a larger street venue and other accommodations for movies as well as TV series (e.g., the old Little House on the Prairie series). Some TV shows filmed there made actors like Michael Landon household names. Hence, additional income is needed when movies are not being made necessitating the 'theme park'. 

There was a horrendous fire there several years ago and they are trying to bring back the opportunity for more movies, and the 'theme park' helps to keep the studio open and persons who live in the Tucson area employed. When films aren't being made, visitors enjoy watching how stuntmen (usually SAG-AFTRA members) manage to do their stunts without breaking their necks. 

+19 votes
Hello all. Been very productive this week and dropped my watchlist down to 5271. I also found a connection to Tahitian royalty from someone in my CC6 which is a surprise. Doesn't look like any of them are in Wikitree so that might be a task to do when I have my watchlist a bit lower.

I also past 400,000 G2G points this last week and are ranked 114th place in G2G.
by Darren Kellett G2G6 Pilot (431k points)
Now that's a fascinating discovery, Darren. Get that watch list down so you can tell us what you find with the Tahiti connection!

This Wikipedia profile would be in my CC9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pōmare_IV . 

Hey Darren I didn't know there were rankings for g2g but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised

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