Evan Shelby Jr (1719 - 1794)

Re the statement:

"According to the The Shawnee Heritage book, the Shelbys shared a Native American heritage as well as a Welsh heritage. " I think you'll find this is in error. Please refer to: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Shawnee_Heritage_Fraud

There are a couple of pay vouchers for Evan Shelby 16 Aug 1782 (60 pounds) Washington Sullivan, North Carolina and 24 July (7 pounds) Salisbury, North Carolina

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/23714:61947?tid=&pid=&queryId=ad33862229bb05bce8732e8cd943f5e8&_phsrc=Huv4&_phstart=successSource

Regarding Evan Shelby

I'm thinking some Shelby descendants might like to see their signatures. Please private message me for details. Rodney

My wife's family bought up a significant amount of land between Clear Spring Maryland and the Pennsylvania border in the last quarter of the 1700s. Most of the land came with the old deeds that had Evan Shelby, David Shelby and Isaac Shelby signatures and sometimes red wax seals on the old deeds. I have the original deeds: Maiden's Choice, parts of the Resurvey of the Mountain of Wells and about five others that my wife's family got when they purchased property from people that bought from the Shelbys. I have Evan Shelby Jr selling parcels to David Shelby and Isaac Shelby so the deeds have all their signatures and sometimes a seal of red wax. If you want to see a picture of these deeds email me at [email address removed]

DAR-grs template is DAR-approved (see this G2G post).

Eileen Bradley, I did some major clean up of the massive and confusing data placed on the profile. Is the DAR link approved by DAR? I had my doubts; they are very protective of their data, even with members.

The "History of Southwest Virginia" that was already there does work, I just checked it.

Thank you for your thoughtfulness.

I see you removed the DAR approved source citation used by the 1776 project that has the patriot ancestor's number and provides a direct link to their records. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:1776

If one looks they will find that the "incorrect information" doesn't pertain to Evan Shelby himself.

Yesterday, because the source link to "History of Southwest Virginia" wasn't working I added a new one. You removed it. There is a lot of information about Evan Shelby, who is referenced in the book numerous times and can be found by using the "search inside" feature.

THERE IS NO EVAN DHU SHELBY, only Evan Shelby

Back around 1903 someone made application to the DAR and picked up the 'dhu' and used it in their application.

The use of Dhu first appeared in an early book by Armstrong in which he provides no basis for the use. I suspect he picked it up by mistake from a poem by Alexander McLachlan "In memory of Sir Ewen Cameron of Lochiel, 1629 -1719". This is a poem that pays tribute to a Scotsman who went by "Evan Dhu" http://www.scotland.com/forums/poets-corner/22981-death-evan-dhu.html Later Janet Schonert wrote a book "Chasin Shelbys" and continued using "dhu" as a middle name in error.

ALL of the researchers who have made the pilgrimage to St. Carron's church in Wales and have looked at the ACTUAL baptismal records of Evan Shelby have confirmed that Evan had NO middle name, further, other than the DAR, which has no basis for the use of dhu, Alexander's mistake, and Schonert who has perpetuated it, no other researcher or author has found any evidence to support its' use.

The two premier Shelby authorities, Cass Knight Shelby, and Johnnie Mulinax Johnson, along with Shelby document historian Judith Trolinger have debunked the use of Dhu.

Over the years I have tried to educate as many Shelby researchers with the facts, but once the cow is out of the barn....

For you serious Shelby researchers here’s a partial list of Shelby research sources: (and yes, I’ve included those that use “dhu”.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1.History of Southwest Virginia, 1746-1786, Washington County, 1777-1870, Lewis Preston Summers, 1903, 921pgs https://archive.org/details/historyofsouthwe00lewi

2. Notable Southern Families, Armstrong, Zella, 1918, 273pgs

http://archive.org/details/notablesouthern00frengoog

3. A Report on the First Three Generations of the Shelby Family in the United States of America - by Shelby, Cass K.", 1927, 26pgs

http://www.ancestralbooks.com/Shelby.html

4. Sketches of the Shelby, McDowell, Deaderick, Anderson families, Moon, Anna Mary, 1933, 150pgs http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?idwu.89066319427;view1u...

5. The Shelby family: ancestry and descendants of John Shelby and his son David Shelby ; pioneers of Tennessee, Galloway, Howard S. 1964, 352pgs

6. Chasin' Shelby's [sic] : a basic outline of the descendants of Jonathon, Jacob, Rees Shelby, Schonert, Janet D, 1971, 109pgs

7. Our ancestors and kinsmen: the Shelbys, Polks, McLartys, Perkersons, Tarpleys, and Camps, Camp Max W. , 1976, 128pgs

8. Our Shelbys, Johnson, Johnnie Mullinax, 1991, 209pgs

9. Rees and Mary Shelby: ancestors & descendants, Johnson, Johnnie Mullinax, 1994, 510pgs (This book is THE Gold Standard, most exhaustive and best researched for Phillip Selby/Shelby’s line)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OTHER MYTHS

From Judy Trolinger’s website: http://www.trolinger.com/judy/This-That.html

Quote: “I'm finding a lot of wrong data for the SHELBYs across the Internet - ESPECIALLY among the various databases that are now available. I'm also beginning to recognize a lot of my own research scattered through them-without me being mentioned-- No telling at the moment just what all I'll place here-but want to at least try and counteract the worst of the wrong 'stuff' -based on original documents. For instance- One database is claiming that Evan Shelby was a knight and the family left Wales in disgrace, and his wife was Catherine Morgan Davies Another has the right death time frame for Evan, but has him dying in Wales. No, Evan did not have a middle name of 'Dhu' The National Library of Wales - 9 January 1978, from G. M. Griffiths, Keeper of Manuscripts and Records, to Miss Lois Wiley in Abingdon, VA: ..."Your request for copies of entries from the tregaron parish register -- 1. 1720, 10bris 23, Evanus fil. Evani Shelby, bapt. fuit. (Please note that I have carefully checked the date, and that it is 1720, not 1719) 2. 1728, May 5, Moses fil. evani Shelby bapt. fuit. 28 Aug 2001--Ron Shelby sent a copy of the original Baptismal record for Evan Shelby Sr-found in the records in the National Library of Wales. Father's name, Selby Phillip From Ron Shelby-Sept 2001 "Selby was buried in the local church yard on 26 June, 1731, and his name is recorded as "Shelby Phillip" at this time. This is a very clear record..Unfortunately, the graveyard filled up early in the 19th century, and all the pre 1800 gravestones were removed. There appears to be no chance to find the exact burial site of Phillip or his headstone. So, while Philip is definitely Evan's father, his own origin is still a mystery. The fact that he was buried as a "Shelby" by the village priest was a surprise to me." Catherine, according to the original marriage record, was Catherina Morgan No, Evan and Catherine did not have a son James No, Evan and Catherine did not have a daughter Mary/Hannah married to Vincent Hobbs No, Evan and Catherine's son John (Capt) did not marry Louisa Looney Not sure now if Evan and Catherine had a daughter Rachel-She may have been a niece-The original Bapt. record of St Caron's Church in Tegaron, clearly shows the Rachel Shelby baptized 21 Oct 1721, was daughter of Ricei Shelby...There is no other Rachel Shelby given. No, Evan Shelby Jr did not die at Kings Meadow, TN -It didn't become Kings Meadow until many years after Evan's death. No, Evan Jr did not serve with or under Gen Braddock, in July 1755 - nor was he a Captain at this time -- Work in progress No, Evan Jr and Letitia Cox did not have a daughter Rachel who married Michael Liggett Letitia Cox's mother Susanna's maiden name is unknown, it was not Davis/Davies - she was not a descendant of Princes Nicketti.

The Will of Hugh Parker -1751 I have wondered from time to time as to why a copy of the will of Hugh Parker was among "The Shelby Family" papers-but hadn't followed up on it. While [recently] working on the Chronology for Evan Shelby, Jr and Letitia Cox, it came to my attention again. Hugh died unmarried, and I have found nothing in the way of a family connection-So it must be business. Hugh died closely to the time that Evan Sr did. Evan Sr's wife Catherine and their son Evan Jr, handled his estate..The Ohio Company was filing lawsuits against the estate up to at least 1754-55, for debts owed. Will-3 June 1751, Hugh Parker of Frederick County in the Province of Maryland, Merchant... Everything was left to his 3 nephews [after debts, etc. are paid]: John, William and Thomas Frohock "to share and share alike...I do make and Constitute my trusty and well beloved friend Col Thomas Cresap of Frederick County in the Province of Maryland and Mr. Jeremiah Warden of the City of Philadelphia, merchant, my Executors of this my last will and Testament, dated 3 June 1751..Hugh Parker signs. Witnesses: Jarvis Hougham, Daniel Cresap, Nathan Wells (his mark) and Barny Curran. Carolina Cradle-Settlement of the Northwest Carolina Frontier, 1747-1762, by Robert W. Ramsey, publ University of NC Press, Chapel Hill, 1964. p113- "...Hugh Parker, a wealthy merchant of Prince Georges (later Frederick) County, Maryland, and a key figure in the trading activities of the newly organized Ohio Company. Hugh Parker's will is recorded in Maryland Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD... [No Shelby's are mentioned] The Ohio Company: Its Inner History: Pittsburgh: University of Pittsburgh Press, 1959, by Alfred P. James. The author incorrectly deciphered the name as "Trohock" [Note-this is the book in which I was able to pinpoint the date of Evan Shelby Sr's death, and the references to the lawsuits against his estate] Drums in the Forest: The Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania, 1958, by Alfred Procter James and Charles Morse Stotz. [Includes maps and photos of Fort Pitt, and Forts of the French and Indian War...] The Ohio Company of Virginia and the Westward Movement, 1748-1792: A Chapter in the History of the Colonial Frontier: Glendale, Calif, by Arthur H Clark Co, 1939. Books are all available through interlibrary loan. You can also find out more about the Ohio Company on the Internet..

Ezekial Cox married Sarah Rose, about 1749 in Maryland - Ezekial was brother to Susannah Cox who married Evan Shelby, Jr Ezekial and Sarah also had a daughter Susannah who married John McFarland, Jr, only child of Capt John McFarland and Rachel Shelby-Rachel later married Phillip Pindall/Pendell/Pindell. Jonathan Cox - Lease Washington County, Maryland - Land Records, F/339 26 Aug 1789: At request of Jonathan Cox the following lease was recorded this date, between Sara[sic] Cox, widow of Ezekial Cox of Washington County and State of Maryland of the first part and Jonathan Cox son of said Sarah Cox and of the said county and State of the other part. Witnesseth that I Sarah Cox for and in consideration of the yearly rent of fifteen pounds current money which on the part and behalf of the said Jonathan Cox his heirs and assigns are to be paid, kept, done and performed hath devised granted and get out by these presents doth devise grant and let unto the said Jonathan cox his heirs and assigns all my dower right of the plantation that I now dwell on lying and being in the county and State aforesaid together with all the dwellings, houses, stables, out houses, enclosed grounds, and all previledges which I am or might be entittled to in virtue of my right of dower to have and to hold the said plantation and all and singular the premises hereby leased from the first day of April next ensing the date hereof for and during my natural life the yearly rent above mentioned...Sarah signs with her mark. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal..signed by David Cox, Daniel Cox [also sons of Ezekial and Sarah]

"Sapling Grove" Cass Knight Shelby (CKS), 1947 MSS., p185 "....John Buchanan sold the tract called "Sapling Grove" to Evan Shelby and Isaac Baker of Maryland after they arrived on the Holston early in 1771. Buchanan, however, gave the purchasers no deed to the property, since he had not then received a patent for it, nor was the patent issued until Dec 23 1779, after Buchanan had died. In the meantime both Baker and Shelby themselves died and it was not until 1796 that the former's heirs got title to his half of the property and 2 Nov 1799 that Evan Shelby's heirs were given a deed to his half, these two deeds being made out by the exc's of William Preston, dec'd (for Shelby, see Washington Co, VA deed book #2 p223) William Preston was the exc for John Buchanan.

Documents Relating to Colonial History of State of New Jersey Vol XXIV & Vol V 1762-1765. Call Pr & Publ Co 1902 p530 [Newspaper abstract] Capt Evan Shelby obtained a Bond of me, the subscriber, for 1651 in the year 1761 and payable in the year 1763, which Bond have paid part, as appears by the Indorsements on the same, and the remainder have receipts for the Bond was perfected in MD; I have reason to apprehend he has already assigned it, either in NJ or PA. This therefore is to warn every person from taking any assignment on said Bond as I will not pay any part of it having as before observed, cancelled the whole. Signed Joseph Warford.

Evan Shelby Jr's burial place Shelby, McDowell, Deaderick Anderson Family's by Anna M. Moon, p16: A letter to Judge Sam C. Heiskell from an old citizen of Bristol tells the following- "Abt 1870, 5th St, Bristol, TN was opened and it became necessary to remove the bodies in the cemetery adjoining the First Presb. Church. In this cemetery were the remains of Gen Evan Shelby. Interested parties removed the remains of their own dead, but Gen Shelby's bones were taken up and placed in a common box and were locked up in the City Calaboose [jail] but a few steps away for safekeeping. Just how long they remined there I do not know. I was a boy of 13 years, and remember distinctly of having the skull in my hands. The bones were then reinterred in the East Hill Cemetery which is located in the State of VA & TN. Gen Shelby's remains now sleep in the of old VA and his grave is now covered with the iron slab that was placed on his grave when 1st buried." Letter written by Mr Charles H. Slack, in the 13 June 1925 issue of the Bristol News...CKS- 1947 MSS p189 includes the whole article... "Gen Shelby's bones were transferred from the jail to the P. O. then the city cemetery in VA. Then in May 1896 with the Civic Ceremonys, laid to their final rest." What is now Bristol, Sullivan County, TN - Letter dated Aug 1929 to CKS from Mr Thomas W Preston, President of the King Printing Company, whose plant stands on the north side of Shelby Street nearly opposite the Lutheran Church, said that the fireplug at the southwest corner of Shelby and Fifth is on the exact spot occupied by the original grave. This would place it near the northern line of his property. The cranberry iron slab that serves as a marker, was obtained from Colonel King's iron works and is the same kind as was later placed on Kings grave. Both are coffin shaped. Shelby's marker bears the inscription: "General Evan Shelby died December 4, 1794 aged 74" cut into the iron. The marker was transferred from the original grave to the new one in the military section of East Hill cemetery at its western end. Evan's widow Isabella, remarried within five years to Alexander Droomgoole - they moved from "Sapling Grove" to Abingdon, VA “