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Grietje Cornelis (abt. 1624 - 1689)

Grietje "Margrietje, Geertje, Gretia" [uncertain] Cornelis aka van Nes, van Es, Vannes
Born about in Laecherveld, Nederlandmap [uncertain]
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Daughter of and
Sister of , , , , , , and
Wife of — married Mar 1645 in Rennselaerswyck, New Netherlandmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , , , , , , , , and
Died at about age 65 in Flatlands, Amersfoort, Brooklyn, Kings County, Long Island, New York colonymap
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Biography

Grietje Cornelis Van Ness daughter of Father: Cornelis Hendrick Van Ness Emigrant of 1641 b. c 1600, d. b Nov 1684 and Mother: Maycke Hendrick Van Der Burchgraeff b. c 1605, d. b 1664 Grietje was named as their child and as the wife of Peter Claessen of Amersfoort, in a document dated 21 March 1664 where Cornelis secured the property for the children of his first wife, Mayeke Hendricx van den Burghgraeff. [1] Grietje Cornelis Van Ness married Peter Claes Wickoff.

Grietje Van Ness from "The Wyckoff Family in America" [2]

Grietje Van Ness, the mother of this great family, should also have consideration. She contributed much to the family she helped to found. Even among the Dutch of that time there were distinctions of station, and she ranked high. Many of the plain people carried no family name. With them there was the coupling of the name of father and child, like Pieter Claesen, meaning Pieter, son of Claes. Others of higher social or property advantages carried a family name from one generation to another. Grietje Van Ness was of this latter class. She was the daughter of Cornelis Hendrick Van Ness and Maycke Hendrieux van der Burchgraeff. Cornelis was the son of Hendrick Gerritse Van Ness of Ameland, Holland.

Maycke was the daughter of Hendrick Adriense van der Burchgraeff and Annetje Janse of Laeckervelt, Holland. These surnames indicate that these families were of high rank and some wealth. The will of Annetje Jans, widow of Hendrick Adriens, dwelling at Laeckervelt, divides her estate between her son and her daughter Maycke, and provides that Maycke shall have the use of this estate during her lifetime, and that it shall then be divided among the six children of said Maycke, whom she names as follows

  1. Gerritie Cornelis, wife of Roeloff Cornelissen
  2. Hendricke Cornelis, wife of Jan Jensen van Dothout
  3. Hendrick
  4. Gerrit
  5. Jan
  6. Grietje Cornelis, wife of Pieter Claesen of Amersfoort, Long Island

Maycke died before her husband, but he carried out her wishes. Thus Grietje Van Ness, when she married Pieter Claesen, brought to him wealth as well as rank. Grietje outlived her husband, who died in 1694. She died between 1699 and 1703, and was buried beside her husband in Flatlands, Long Island.

Pieter Claus Wyckoff married Grietje Van Ness, daughter of Hendrick Van Ness, circa 1649. Children of Pieter Claus Wyckoff and Grietje Van Ness:

  1. Pieterje Cornelia Wyckoff+1,2 b. bt 1612 - 1667, d. bt 1648 - 1747
  2. Geertje Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1628 - 1671, d. bt 1642 - 1753
  3. Mayken Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1628 - 1671, d. bt 1642 - 1753
  4. Pieter Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1628 - 1671, d. bt 1643 - 1750
  5. Martin Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1628 - 1671, d. bt 1643 - 1750
  6. Gerrit Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1628 - 1671, d. bt 1643 - 1750
  7. Hendrick Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1628 - 1671, d. bt 1643 - 1750
  8. Claes Pietersen Wyckoff1,2 b. 1646, d. a 1727
  9. Annetje Wyckoff+1,2 b. 1 Nov 1650, d. 9 Nov
  10. John Wyckoff1,2 b. bt 1652 - 1672, d. bt 1697 - 1758
  11. Cornelius Pietersen Wyckoff+1,2 b. 1656, d. 1746

Birth

Grietje Van Ness was born:
between 1624 and 1630 Est date 1 JUL 1624 Place: Emberland, , Netherlands or Place: Of Flatbush, Brooklyn, Kings, New York [3][4]
about 1625. Vianen, Utrecht, Netherlands. [5]
1627 Emberland, Netherlands. [6]
1627 Brooklyn, Kings, NY, USA[7]
1627 Vianen, Utrecht, Netherlands. [8][9][10][11][12][13][14]

Marriage

Grietje Van Ness married Pieter Claus Wyckoff:
Rensselaer, New Amsterdam [15]
1646 Renssalaer, New York, United States. [16][17]
before 1649 Renssalaer, NY [18]

Children

  1. Geertje Wyckoff
  2. Garret Pieterse Wyckoff

Death

Grietje Van Ness died between 1659 and 1722. [19][20][21][22]
BET 1699 and 1703 Flatlands, Amersfoort, Long Island, Ny

Burial

Brooklyn, Kings County, New York, USA. [23][24][25]

Church records

  1. 1663 Apr 22 Jan - parents: Pieter Claeszen, Grietie Cornelis. Wit.: Jan Corzen, Hendricke. [26]

Research notes

Birth

20 Aug 1624 Of Leksmond, Zuid-Holland[27]
Note: This early date should probably instead apply to the older sister, Gerritje. Mix-216 20:46, 31 August 2014 (EDT)

Marriage

A Hendricks Family supplement shows Grietje married to Pieter Claes Wyckoff. My research shows Claes Cornelissen but I suspect she was married twice. [28]
Note: "Claes Cornelissen" may be confused with Roeloff Cornelissen van Houten, who was the husband of Grietje's older sister, Gerritje. Mix-216 20:46, 31 August 2014 (EDT)

Death

11 Sep 1689 Amersfoort, Flatlands, LI, NY[29]
Note: these 1689 dates are wrong, as confusion with the death date of the older sister Gerritje in Jersey City, New Jersey. Mix-216 20:46, 31 August 2014 (EDT)

Burial

Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, USA

  • [1] Memorial ID 101645026
  • [2] Find A Grave Index

Sources

  1. ↑ Calendar of NY Wills.
  2. ↑ The Wyckoff Family in America, A Genealogy in Two Volumes, 3rd !Edition, Volume One !Descendants of Nicholas Wyckoff, Published by The Wyckoff House and Association, Inc. Gateway Press, Inc. Baltimore, 1934/1980.
  3. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Page: Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY
  4. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Page: Source number: 3291.013; Source type: Pedigree chart; Number of Pages: 19
  5. ↑ Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
  6. ↑ Family Data Collection - Births
  7. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Page: Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY. Note: Ancestry Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1624 Birth place: Flatbush, Brooklyn Kings, NY Death date: 1699 Death place: Flatlands, Amersfoort Long Island, NY Marriage date: 1646 Marriage place: Flatlands, Kings Co, NY APID: 1,4725::4521752
  8. ↑ Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
  9. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Source number: 356.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: TLH
  10. ↑ Web: New York, Find A Grave Index, 1660-2012
  11. ↑ Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
  12. ↑ Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
  13. ↑ U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
  14. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY
  15. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Page: Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY
  16. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Source number: 356.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: TLH
  17. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY
  18. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Page: Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY. Note: Ancestry Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1624 Birth place: Flatbush, Brooklyn Kings, NY Death date: 1699 Death place: Flatlands, Amersfoort Long Island, NY Marriage date: 1646 Marriage place: Flatlands, Kings Co, NY APID: 1,4725::4521752
  19. ↑ Web: New Jersey, Find A Grave Index, 1664-2012
  20. ↑ Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
  21. ↑ U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
  22. ↑ Family Data Collection - Individual Records Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY
  23. ↑ Web: New York, Find A Grave Index, 1660-2012
  24. ↑ Web: New Jersey, Find A Grave Index, 1664-2012
  25. ↑ U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
  26. ↑ A. P. G. Jos van der Linde, Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York: First Book of Records, 1660-1752, New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1983). via Chris Chester, "The Brouwer Genealogy Database".
  27. ↑ Public Member Trees Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Hendrick Pieterse Wyckoff
  28. ↑ The Long Island Dutch records in Hicksville, Long Island New York Public Library are my source. - O'Bryan extended Family tree.FTW
  29. ↑ Public Member Trees Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Hendrick Pieterse Wyckoff, Record for Grietje Cornelis Van Ness
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Acknowledgments

Thanks to
  1. Lawrence Schliessmann
  2. Jim Godfrey
  3. Bryan Sypniewski
  4. Willette Bryant
  5. Jennifer Justice
  6. Derik Herron
  7. Tim Tropeck
  8. Mark Stuckenborg
  9. William Hauser
  10. Kathryn Smith
  11. Richard Draper
  12. Heath Vogel
  13. Scott Jackson for creating WikiTree profile Van Ness-125 through the import of Vogel Wiki Upload.ged on Jan 22, 2013.




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Stills-18 Michael Stills
Can we get a review of her birth location. Plotting the location of her parents birth's, death's and marriage suggests her birth location is odd. Thanks.
posted by Michael Stills
edited by Michael Stills
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
Which of the numerous suggested birthplaces are you finding odd? (This profile seems to be a mess of bits that were concatenated from duplicate profiles created by gedcom imports...)
posted by Ellen Smith
Stills-18 Michael Stills
Ugh..There is a lot to sort through and I am not familar with records from the Netherlands. One point to start with is the marriage of her parents is 1625 in Vianen, (Zuid-Holland), Utrecht, Nederland. She is currently recorded as being born 20 Aug 1624 in Laecherveld, Nederland. That makes both her birthdate and that of Gerritje suspect without having reviewed the documentation. Also, the location of her parents marriage in 1625 is about 80 miles from her reported birth location. That seems unlikely but I really do not have a good sense for the likelyhood of this happening at that time in those locations. Really, I supose that a review of sources, death, marriage, birth is in order for each of her siblings and parents is needed to clean up merge messes before we can claim anything.
posted by Michael Stills
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
Ugh, indeed. The sources list here impresses me as a shrine to the worship of dubious Ancestry.com databases. This is a popular family to be descended from and it appears in many family trees -- for evidence of that, check out the Acknowledgments list on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Nes-28 (her father).

It looks like there is some decent documentation for her marriage and children. The best clue to the early life part of her profile seems to be the will that connects her to her parents, coupled with the information about her parents in the Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts (see the profile for her father for more on that). I think Vlanen is a good guess for her birth place, based on the identification of the parents.

Sometimes these New Netherland marriage records indicate where in the Netherlands the person was from, but that does not seem to be the case here.

The Brouwer genealogy database, where she is profiled at http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~brouwergenealogydata/genealogy/p676.htm#i23845 , is usually an insightful source.

posted by Ellen Smith
Timmerman-225 Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Removed 'spouse' Peter Schenck because she probably was not his wife. (need more sources and his patronymic is still unknown) Did find a baptism and siblings for Peter Schenck in Amersfoort though.
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Ness-125 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Disregard the alternate death September 11, 1689 because that date instead belongs to her sister Gerritje in Jersey City, it is sourced on her gravestone as I recall, and these data points have been conflated between these sisters repeatedly in the numerous source trees. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Ness-136 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: By the marriage date, I think it is clear that she was intended to be the same as this woman, but with a confused husband. He can either be detached or merged away later into the correct husband, but let's merge her profile into the established NNS PPP, to get rid of this pointless match. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Ness-145 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Vannes-1 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. This match has a marriage date March 1645 which is worth keeping, and it also appears to be a 1645/1646 double date from the olde calendar, which explains the 1646 date on the other profile. So I would inclied to eventually keep it as March 1646, because that would match the majority of months in the later part of the year by our modern calendar. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Ness-67 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Ness-137 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Ness-126 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Nes-7 and Van Ness-32 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
A couple issues here:

1) Gerritie Cornelis Van Ness : This instead is the name of the older sister. This woman who married Pieter Claesz Wyckoff was named Griteje. I am going to change the name before merge to avoid confusion.

2) Born about 1624 in Of Flatbush, Brooklyn, Kings, New York : That early date seems more for the older sister Gerritje, than this Grietje, born 1627. And Brooklyn is unlikely.

3) Died September 11, 1689 in Flatlands, Aermsfoot, Long Island, Ny. The 1689 date is for the older sister Gerritje, who died and is buried in Jersey City, New Jersey.

Despite these confusions from the original import, I left the profile as a match for Grietje, because she seems to have husband and child attachments for the Pieter Wyckoff line, and not for Gerritje's NJ van Houtens

posted by Steven Mix

Rejected matches › Gerritje Cornelis Van Ness (abt.1622-1689)

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