G2G: Germany Connectors' Challenge June 2026 - Notables

Question

This month we have four German notables to connect.  They are an eclectic group and none of them are scientists or mathematicians.  Would you like to help connect them?

Emil Georg Conrad (Sauer) von Sauer -  Composer, Pianist, Score Editor, and Master Piano Teacher from Hamburg - 13 starting connections - Connected - Thanks Alexandra-Brigitte & Manuela!

Eleanore (Hasenclever) Noll-Hasenclever - Alpinist from Duisburg, Rheinprovinz - 0 starting connections - Connected - Thanks Vanessa!

Henry (von Kleinbach) Brandon - Actor born in Berlin, parents were from Baden-Württemberg and Posen - 7 starting connections - Connected - Thanks Manuela!

Franz Johann Gleißner - Composer, court musician, singer from Bayern - 9 starting connections - Connected - Thanks Rita and Alexandra-Brigitte!

Have fun!!

Answer 1

Emil Georg Conrad Sauer: I am trying to find more information about his mother but hardly can´t read her death record (resolution of the ancestry sharing link in her profile is too low). To me it looks like her birth place is not Dresden, but maybe Moskau. Could anybody with a Ancestry subscription verify her birth place?

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yup, Moskau 

Möchtest Du den scan haben? 

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Danke, das hilft :-)

Den Scan brauch ich nicht. Bin recht zuversichtlich, dass ich den Rest mehr oder weniger hab entziffern können.

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Should be connected, since I build the connection between Hermann Elb and  Philipp Marckwald. 

Answer 2

I’ve added the maternal grandparents of Franz Johann Gleißner. The surnames were Dozauer/Tozauer, and Eismann. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Tozauer-1

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He now has 163 connections. They are in the connections table, but not in the CC7, which is now at 117. I guess the CC7 only counts up to 7 degrees. However the missing links table still shows Eismann-33 and Eismann-34 as having no children.

He’s connected to various cities and has ten degrees of connections. Or maybe eleven. Some of the cities are Neustadt, Altenstadt, Windischeschenbach, and Pressath. I think that I will be able to connect him to my tree in Pressath or Windischeschenbach. But if anyone sees any surnames that interest them, feel free to jump in.

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Here is a document from 1819 which lists Caecilia Gleißner as a lythographer’s daughter. Is she the mother or godmother of the infant? It starts on the bottom of the left page and continues on the top of the right page, and mentions Aloÿsius  Senefelder and Johann Ulbrecht(?).

* '''Record''': "Taufen"<br/>Bestand: CB301 München-Zu Unserer Lieben Frau - 1561-1937; Image: 43<br/>[https://dfg-viewer.de/show?id=9&tx_dlf%5Bid%5D=https%3A%2F%2Fdigitales-archiv.erzbistum-muenchen.de%2Factaproweb%2Fmets%3Fid%3DRep_e46cd223-64ef-4793-bc07-40b1028485ba_mets_actapro.xml&tx_dlf%5Bpage%5D=43 DFG Viewer] (accessed 15 June 2026).

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It is a Twin birth. She is the mother. What I can read is:
 
First Column / Left Side:
Mayer und Gleißnerin
Zwillinge -> Twins
+ 2 / 8 19. -> first child Johann Albrecht died on 2 August 1819
+ 18 / 8 19 -> second child Aloys died on 18 August 1819

Second column
5 -> baptism on 5 April 1819

Third Column
K. {=Kinder -> Childs}
Johann Albrecht gestern Nacht 1/2 11 Uhr (yesterday night half to 11)
Aloys gestern Nacht 11 Uhr (yesterday night 11)
V. (=Vater -> father) Joseph Mayer ??nur beym K. Garde Regmt.
M. (=Mutter -> mother) Caecilia Gleißner d. Lytographen Tochter dahier

Right sied, Third Column
gf (=Gefattern -> godfather)
gf - Johann Albrecht Stromsdörfer BataillonsArzt per Aloysium Sennefel der Inspecto bey der K. Heer-Kataster-Comission
get. (getauft -> who baptized) K.S.Hage
H?. Schillingerin  (-> a woman Schillinger signs as witness)

Edit: Typo

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Thank you! I was looking for a marriage document last night- I will continue looking. Kindest regards.

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The Deutsch Biography puts him in Vienna in 1801. Where do I find Viennese records?

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Wien / Vienna records should be at Matricula. Indexes you find here: Familia Austria

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Thanks!

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I’m up to 207 connections in ten degrees.

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Wow: Congrats Rita, you connected him.

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Thank you and kindest regards. Thank you for your help.  I had a good time and added an eight great grandfather.

Answer 3

Henry Brandon is now connected through Johann Martin Fromm (1702-1768) Connection should show up soon.

Answer 4

About Eleonore Hasenclever:

Father: Emil Theodor Hasenclever, died before 1914 in Duisburg, Fabrikdirektor in Duisburg (Frankfurt V, marriages 1914, Nr. 818)
Mother: Eleonore Vielhaber, born calc. 1853/1854 in Ruhrort/Rheinprovinz, died 7 Nov. 1928 in Frankfurt a.M., last place of residence Bad Homburg vor der Höhe (Frankfurt IV, deaths 1928, Nr. 1472)

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Is her father the same person as the Emil Theodor Hasenclever who was born in Hagen on 2 Aug. 1845, to parents Theodor Hasenclever and Helene Neuhaus? (Ancestry.com. Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898)

If that's the case then Eleonore Noll-Hasenclever is connected to Peter Hasenclever (Hasenclever-28), per the Remscheid family book; compare https://gw.geneanet.org/rijacobs?n=hasenclever&oc=&p=friedrich+wilhelm+eberhard+daniel.

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A person named Antonie Gerhardine Eleonore Marie Vielhaber was born in Ruhrort on 13 Jan. 1855, daughter of Gerhard and Gertrud Vielhaber (Stadtarchiv Duisburg; Film Number: 1336705; Page Number: 53;54)

Is this the mother?

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I believe this 

: Landesarchiv Nordrhein-Westfalen, Personenstandsarchiv, LAV NRW/Abteilung Rheinland, Bestand PA/[https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data03/Abt_Rheinland/PA_3102/~061/06122/LAV_NRW_R_PA_3102_06122_0034.jpg 3102_06122_0034] + [https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data03/Abt_Rheinland/PA_3102/~061/06122/LAV_NRW_R_PA_3102_06122_0035.jpg 3102_06122_0035]

Is the marriage of 

Groom	Name: Emil Theodor Hasenclever Birth: Aug 2 1845  Hagen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Father: Theodor Hasenclever Mother: Helene
Bride	Name: Jeanette Marie Eleonore Birth: Aug 12 1854  Ruhrort, Germany Father: Emil Vielhaber Mother: Emilie

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and this the fathers death: 

Landesarchiv Nordrhein-Westfalen, Personenstandsarchiv, Abteilung Rheinland, Bestand PA 3103/05629/[https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data02/Abt_Rheinland/PA_3103/~056/05629/R_PA_3103_05629_0495.jpg 0495].

Name	Emil Theodor Hasenclever
Gender	Male
Birth	Circa 1845  Haspe, Landkreis Hagen
Death	Oct 12 1904  Duisburg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Age	59
Father	Theodor Hasenclever
Mother	Helene (born Neuhaus)
Wife	Eleonore Jeannette Maria (born Vielhaber)

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da gibt es mindestens noch eine Tochter Emilie der Familie Hasenclever ∞ Neuhaus:

https://www.familysearch.org/de/search/record/results?count=100&q.filmNumber=578848&q.givenName=Theodor&q.surname=Hasenclever

Die Eheschließung der Eltern in Hasenclever-Neuhaus in Hagen:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JH9R-GHQ?lang=de

(fixing typo)

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laut Heiratsakt (siehe oben) ist auf der Vielhaber Seite der Ehename der Mutter Hannesen ... das ist der Todesakt der Emilie Vielhaber geb. Hannessen :

Landesarchiv Nordrhein-Westfalen, Personenstandsarchiv, Abteilung Ostwestfalen-Lippe, Bestand P6-06/04145/[https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data01/Abt_Ostwestfalen-Lippe/P6/P6-06/~041/P6-06_04145/OWL_P6-06_04145_00215.jpg 00215].

Birth	Circa 1832  Ruhrort, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Death	June 1 1897  Lütgendortmund, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Age	65
Father	Konrad Hannesen
Mother	Maria (born Feldmann)
Husband	Emil Vielhaber
Civil Registration Office	Dortmund-Lütgendortmund

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Es gibt eine weitere Tochter der Familie Vielhaber-Hannesen, die einen van Essen heiratet

Landesarchiv Nordrhein-Westfalen, Personenstandsarchiv, LAV NRW/Abteilung Rheinland, Bestand PA/[https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data03/Abt_Rheinland/PA_3102/~056/05680_Bd02/LAV_NRW_R_PA_3102_05680_Bd02_0346.jpg 3102_05680_Bd02_0346] + [https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data03/Abt_Rheinland/PA_3102/~056/05680_Bd02/LAV_NRW_R_PA_3102_05680_Bd02_0347.jpg 3102_05680_Bd02_0347]

Der Emil Hasenclever ist Zeuge !

Marriage	Nov 22 1894  Duisburg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Groom	Name: Heinrich Martin Marius van Essen Birth: June 19 1851  Ruhrort, Ruhrort, Germany Father: Jan Catharinus van Essen Mother: Eleonore Maria Wilhelmina
Bride	Name: Maria Wilhelmine Ernestine Birth: Mar 10 1858  Ruhrort, Germany Father: Emil Vielhaber Mother: Emilie
Witness	Name: Heinrich Hannessen Birth: Circa 1827 Age: 67
Witness	Name: Emil Hasenclever Birth: Circa 1845 Age: 49

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Tod von Emil Vielhaber (∞Emilie Hannesen) :

Landesarchiv Nordrhein-Westfalen, Personenstandsarchiv, Abteilung Rheinland, Bestand PA 3103/05938/[https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data02/Abt_Rheinland/PA_3103/~059/05938/R_PA_3103_05938_0053.jpg 0053].

Name	Emil Walter Cornelius Vielhaber
Gender	Male
Birth	Circa 1832  Ruhrort, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Death	Feb 25 1876  Ruhrort
Age	44
Father	Gerhard Vielhaber
Mother	Eleonore (born Borgemeister)
Wife	Wilhelmine Emilie (born Hannesen)

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Das Ehepaar Vielhaber-Borgemeister hat noch eine Tochter

Landesarchiv Nordrhein-Westfalen, Personenstandsarchiv, Abteilung Ostwestfalen-Lippe, Bestand P6-11/00257/[https://www.landesarchiv-nrw.de/data01/Abt_Ostwestfalen-Lippe/P6/P6-11/~002/P6-11_00257/OWL_P6-11_00257_00059.jpg 00059].

Stirbt leider unverheiratet

Name	Antonie Vielhaber
Gender	Female
Birth	Ruhrort, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Death	Feb 10 1917  Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Age	45
Father	Gerhard Vielhaber
Mother	Eleonore (born Bourgemeister)

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und es gibt einen Sohn in FamilySearch mit ausgebauten Baum in Richtung NL:

https://www.familysearch.org/de/tree/person/details/MSS2-MTT

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Ich hab mal einen Großteil eurer Quellen mit Profilen in Wikitree ergänzt.

@Daniel: Bei Ancestry-Quellen bin ich nicht sicher, wie man die richtig zitiert (ich hab selber keinen Zugriff auf die Dokumente). Evtl. kannst du da mal einen Blick drauf werfen.

Um die Verbindung zu https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hasenclever-28 aufzubauen fehlen mir noch Daten. Ist das von dir erwähnte Familienbuch Remscheid irgendwo online verfügbar?

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Irgendwie habe ich den Faden verloren...

Wird das Buch von Carsten Pick zitiert? oder  das ältere Remscheid, luth. von Edmund Strutz (†) und Helmut Neubauer (†) ist in der WGfF Digibib verfügbar. Im letzteren kann ich Nachschauen, und da gibt es Seitenweise Hasenclever, nur geht das Buch leider nur von  1680-1786. Welche beiden Hasenclever sind zu verbinden ?

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Das müsste Daniel sagen, welches Buch er in seinem Kommentar oben gemeint hat.

Ich hab jetzt mal bis zu Daniel Hasenclever (geb.1773) Profile ergänzt. (Family search hat noch weitere Vorfahren).

Gemäss obigem Kommentar gibt es eine Verbindung zu Peter Hasenclever (born 1610).

Wie die genau ausschaut hab ich aber auch noch nicht angeschaut...

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Danke für die Arbeit an der Familie! Ich melde mich zu Peter Hasenclever in den kommenden Tagen nochmal.

Answer 5

I may have connected Franz Johann Gleißner to my tree. I connected him to

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Füerling-1, and he is the brother of my seventh great grandfather. So hopefully that will connect him to the main tree.  So far I am still at ten degrees.

He is showing up as 19 degrees from me, but still as an unconnected notable.

He’s at 246 connections in ten degrees.

Answer 6

To complete June, Noll-Hasenclever now is connected via her husband's nephew's Dutch in-laws. His mother-in-law's younger sister, Henriëtta Clasina Disselkoen-10, has been on WT for not quite six months, solely as her second husband's wife and widow. Still many profiles to create for involved and related family members.

The connecting profile, Jeannetta Henriëtta Clasina Disselkoen-14, is/was Eleonore Noll-Hasenclever's 20th connection; I'm curious what her cc7 might be as soon as the system recognizes & shows her as connected. 

However, it would of course still be great if Eleonore would also have at least one connection via her own German branches. So, don't forget about her just because she's no longer floating in space... 

​​​​​​(ps ~ Paige, may I ask you to delete my name from the Sauer connection when you edit your post to update Eleonore? I didn't do anything at all that helped to connect him. The praise really is all Manuela's and Alexandra-Brigitte's.  Thanks!)

buona fine settimana everyone

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looks like it will be just 29 unless more profile creation and connecting happens...

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Awesome!  I just put June "in the books" last night so I am very happy to see Eleanore connected.  Hopefully some day her family will be the connecting point for someone else and her connections will grow.