William (Ferrers) de Ferrers Knt

William (Ferrers) de Ferrers Knt (1272 - 1325)

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Sir William "1st Lord Ferrers of Groby" de Ferrers Knt formerly Ferrers
Born in Yoxale, Staffordshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1280 in Englandmap
Husband of — married before 19 Jan 1317 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died in Groby, Leicestershire, Englandmap
Profile last modified 22 Sep 2019 | Created 22 Jun 2011 | Last significant change: 22 Sep 2019
19:36: Liz (Noland) Shifflett edited the Biography for William (Ferrers) de Ferrers Knt (1272-1325). (added a category) [Thank Liz for this]
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Biography

William (Ferrers) de Ferrers Knt was a member of aristocracy in the British Isles.

Birth

Sir William Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers of Groby was born on 30 January 1272 at Yoxale, Staffordshire, England.[1][2]

Marriage & Children

He and Margaret (Alice?) de Segrave, daughter of John de Segrave, Knt., were married circa 1280; they had three sons, Henry [2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby], Thomas, Knt., and Ralph, Knt., and one daughter, Anne (married Edward le Despenser).[1]
He married, secondly, Ellen/Eleanor;[1][2] she was still living 9 Feb. 1316/17.

Unsourced

Source needed for attached children: William Ferrers and Agnes Ferrers

Other Notes

In 1295 he was beyond seas with the Duke of Brabant.
He was at the Battle of Falkirk 22 July 1298, and at the siege of Carlaverock in July 1300.[1]
He was summoned to Parliament from 29 Dec. 1299 to 24 Sept. 1324, by writs directed Willelmo de Ferariis or Willelmo de Ferrariis, whereby he is held to have become Lord Ferrers.[1]
In 1301 the Keeper of Galloway was ordered to restore to him his lands in that district, which the king, when last in those parts, had caused to be taken into his hand.[1]
He sealed the Barons’ Letter to the Pope, 12 Feb. 1300/1, as Willelmus de Ferrariis dominus de Groby.
He was summoned to attend the Coronation of King Edward II 18 Jan. 1307/8.[1]
On 14 Feb. 1321/2 he was ordered to accompany the king against the contrariants. [1]

Death

Sir William Ferrers died on 20 March 1325 at Groby, Leicestershire, England, at age 53.[1][2]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 Richardson, D. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Volume I, page 295, #5. Google eBook
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 151.

See Also:

  • Magna Carta Ancestry 2011 2nd ed. Vol. II p. 295-296
  • Richardson, D. (2011). Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, (2nd ed, pp.530). Google Books

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William de Ferrers is a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Saher de Quincy:
William de Ferrers son of
William de Ferrers son of
Margaret De Quincy daughter of
Roger De Quincy son of
Saher De Quincy


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On 30 Mar 2019 at 03:39 GMT Anonymous (Holland) Carroll wrote:

Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume III, page 207 HARCOURT 11.

William De Harcourt, son by his father's 1st marriage, born about 1300. He married before 1324 Joan De Grey, daughter of Richard de Grey, by Joan, daughter of Robert FitzPayn, 1st Lord FitzPayn. They had two sons, Richard, and Thomas. Sir William De Harcourt died 6 June 1349. His widow, Joan married (2nd) before 1350 (as his 2nd wife) Ralph de Ferrers, younger son of William de Ferrers. Sir Ralph De Ferrers died between 24 Sept. 1391 and 7 July 1392.

Thank you!

On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:28 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

pps - the chart in Alexander's Wikipedia page shows Ellen as mother of Ann who married Despenser.

I posted a G2G question from Alexander's profile.

On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:22 GMT Michael Cayley wrote:

The 2004 Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - not available except via libraries or subscription sites - has an article on the Ferrers family up to 1445. It states that "With his wife, Ellen, possibly a kinswoman of Nicholas Seagrave, William had a daughter and four sons, including his heir, Henry Ferrers second Lord Ferrers (c. 1303–1343)."

On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:08 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

p.s. Richardson does show a second marriage for William, "bef. 19 Jan. 1316/7" to Ellen ____ (still MCA GROBY #5)

On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:05 GMT David Douglass wrote:

"They had five children, his heir, Henry, four younger sons, and a daughter.[1]" (Wikipedia citing ODNB)

I guess it depends on how you interpret this statement but Henry + 4 younger sons + a daughter = 6 children. I would be careful about depending on a source that makes what appears to be an obvious error of fact.

On 22 Sep 2018 at 15:59 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

This profile, for Sir William Ferrers, "1st Lord Ferrers of Groby" is sourced to Richardson (MCA p 295, GROBY #5), saying he was born 1272, married daughter of John de Segrave, and had three sons and a daughter: Henry, Thomas, Ralph & Anne. No mention of another son named William, a daughter named Agnes, or a wife named Ellen de Menteith.

WikiTree's profile for Alexander has a link to his Wikipedia article, which includes daughter Ellen (WikiTree doesn't) saying:

"Ellen, recently identified as the wife of William Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Groby (d. 20 March 1324/5).[8]", citing J. Ravilious (2013).

Perhaps Ellen is mother of William & Agnes?

On 22 Sep 2018 at 15:45 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

"GREY, JOHN, eighth Lord Ferrers of Groby (1432–1461), born in 1432, was elder son of Edward Grey (1415-1457), who was second son of Reginald, third lord Grey of Ruthin [q. v.], by his second wife, Joan, daughter and heiress of William Astley. Edward Grey married Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Ferrers and heiress of William, sixth lord Ferrers of Groby, at whose death in 1445 Grey became seventh Lord Ferrers of Groby, and was summoned to parliament by that title. He died 18 Dec. 1457, leaving four sons and a daughter...."

from this wikisource page

continued (again)

On 22 Sep 2018 at 15:42 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

found his Wikipedia article.

it cites ODNB for the statement: "William Ferrers married to Ellen de Menteith, daughter of Alexander, Earl of Menteith. They had five children, his heir, Henry, four younger sons, and a daughter.[1]"

I couldn't access that source, but I doubt that statement was made (do the math).

Google Books DNB search for Ferrers Groby returned this page, which had the entry "Ferrers, Lord of Groby. See [Grey, Sir John, d. 1461]", leading to this page, which only explains how the unrelated Sir John Grey became 8th Lord Ferrers of Groby...

On 22 Sep 2018 at 13:15 GMT Glenn Kittredge wrote:

Wikipedia states there were four sons but only names Henry.

On 14 Apr 2016 at 20:57 GMT Jayme (Mullins) Arrington wrote:

Should William Ferrers and Agnes Ferrers be detached as children? I do not see any sources on this or their profiles to support this William Ferrers as father

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