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On 30 Mar 2019 at 03:39 GMT Anonymous (Holland) Carroll wrote:
William De Harcourt, son by his father's 1st marriage, born about 1300. He married before 1324 Joan De Grey, daughter of Richard de Grey, by Joan, daughter of Robert FitzPayn, 1st Lord FitzPayn. They had two sons, Richard, and Thomas. Sir William De Harcourt died 6 June 1349. His widow, Joan married (2nd) before 1350 (as his 2nd wife) Ralph de Ferrers, younger son of William de Ferrers. Sir Ralph De Ferrers died between 24 Sept. 1391 and 7 July 1392.
On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:28 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:
I posted a G2G question from Alexander's profile.
On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:22 GMT Michael Cayley wrote:
On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:08 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:
On 22 Sep 2018 at 16:05 GMT David Douglass wrote:
I guess it depends on how you interpret this statement but Henry + 4 younger sons + a daughter = 6 children. I would be careful about depending on a source that makes what appears to be an obvious error of fact.
On 22 Sep 2018 at 15:59 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:
WikiTree's profile for Alexander has a link to his Wikipedia article, which includes daughter Ellen (WikiTree doesn't) saying:
"Ellen, recently identified as the wife of William Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Groby (d. 20 March 1324/5).", citing J. Ravilious (2013).
Perhaps Ellen is mother of William & Agnes?
On 22 Sep 2018 at 15:45 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:
from this wikisource page
On 22 Sep 2018 at 15:42 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:
it cites ODNB for the statement: "William Ferrers married to Ellen de Menteith, daughter of Alexander, Earl of Menteith. They had five children, his heir, Henry, four younger sons, and a daughter."
I couldn't access that source, but I doubt that statement was made (do the math).
Google Books DNB search for Ferrers Groby returned this page, which had the entry "Ferrers, Lord of Groby. See [Grey, Sir John, d. 1461]", leading to this page, which only explains how the unrelated Sir John Grey became 8th Lord Ferrers of Groby...
On 22 Sep 2018 at 13:15 GMT Glenn Kittredge wrote:
On 14 Apr 2016 at 20:57 GMT Jayme (Mullins) Arrington wrote: