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Robert Stanton (abt. 1599 - 1672)

Robert Stanton
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1638 in Newport, Rhode Islandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 73 in Newport, Rhode Islandmap
Profile last modified | Created 12 Sep 2010
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Robert Stanton migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 318)
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Disputed Parentage: Robert has been detached as son of a previously conflated profile of Thomas Stanton. There is no credible proof of this parentage and it has been noted there are no sons or grandsons named Thomas.

Contents

Biography

Robert was a Friend (Quaker)

Robert Stanton was born in England about 1599.[1][2][3]

Robert married Avis ________ by 1638.[4] The given name of his wife is also found in Quaker records. Also in 1638, Robert and seven others were fined on 15 Jul 1638 for having been engaged in a riot of drunkenness on the 13th at Portsmouth.[5] Another reference suggests that Robert and Avis married before 1627 in England, but provides no citations in support of their marriage there, or son Robert.[3]

Portsmouth Compact

On 30 April 1639, Robert and 28 others signed the Compact of Loyalty, an addition to the Portsmouth Compact.[6]

"We whose names are underwritten do acknowledge ourselves the legal subjects of his majesty, King Charles, and in his name do hereby bind ourselves into a body politicke unto his laws according to matters of justice."

Robert was made a Freeman of Newport 16 Mar 1641.[citation needed] Other civil positions held include Sergeant Junior 1642; Sergeant 1644; Freeman 1655; Deputy 1670; and Juryman 1671.

Formation of Westerly, Rhode Island

In 1660, William Vaughan, Robert Stanton, John Fairfield, Hugh Mosher and James Longbottom, all of Newport, Rhode Island, purchased Misquamicut, land of an Indian chief, Sosoa, and formed a settlement of what afterward became Westerly, Rhode Island. Witnesses to the transaction were Jeremy Clarke, Latham Clarke and Henry Clarke.[7]

Robert Stanton aged 73 at death 29 Aug 1672 Rhode Island. "1672. Aug. 29. Mr. Stanton, of this town, died, being of a Thursday."[8][9][10][11]

Children

Undocumented Child

Robert is left in place here as undocumented because he appears in much speculative genealogy absent any documentation.

  • Robert, born about 1627 in England. According to this reference, "The family account states that their son Robert accompanied them" [to New England];[3] however no citations are shown for his birth, and no record of him in Rhode Island has been found.

Research Notes

Austin assigns eight children to Robert and Avis, none named Robert[12] and there appear to be issues with this (and related) entries.

In The History of Stonington-The only known earliest English settler 1st Families of the name pg 601 were a Robert and a Thomas Stanton. It is highly unlikely that he was the brother of Thomas Stanton

In North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 for Robert Stanton. T Tanner William Tanner of North Kingstown, Rhode Island and his descendants it has been described on page 13 that in Henry Tibbets Will husband of Sarah, who is the daughter of Robert Stanton and Avis gives to his grandson land bought by "Thomas Stanton."

The surname is discussed at considerable length in the book New England Families by William Richard Cutter (notorious for not citing documentation). It states that “Robert Stanton, an early settler of Newpork, Rhose Island, was the progenitor of the Honorable Edwin M. Stanton, of Lincoln’s cabinet; died in Newport in 1672, aged 73." Robert Stanton is the third great grandfather of Edwin McMasters Stanton, confirmed as an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court but passing away four days before being seated.

A 3-generation list of ancestors and collateral people was added to this profile, clearly a copy/paste from another website or publication. This was moved to a Free Space Page for Robert and should not be re-inserted here.

Geographical Notes

Westerly (Rhode Island) and Its Witnesses: For Two Hundred and Fifty Years ... By Frederic Denison states Newport was founded 1638, Providence founded in 1636, New London founded in 1646 and Stonington in 1649, the whole region embraced only about 30 white families which basically became a township in May of 1669 named "Westerly". It was the first township organized by the new colonial charter given in 1663 and the fifth organized in the state.

Sources

  1. NEHGR 15:65 citing records of Friends Meeting Newport
  2. Colonial Dames of America. Ancestral Records and Portraits (New York, The Grafton Press, 1910) Vol. 1, Page 113
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Stanton, William Henry. Our ancestors the Stantons (Philadelphia, Priv. print. for W. H. Stanton 1922) Pages 28+
  4. Torrey, Clarence Almon. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1985. Page 701
  5. Bartlett, John Russell. Records of the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, in New England, Vol 1, 1636-1663. Providence, R.I., A. Crawford Greene and Brother, State Printers, 1856. pg 60
  6. Wikipedia contributors. (2019, April 28). Portsmouth Compact. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 12:32, October 25, 2020, from [1]
  7. Denison, Frederic. Westerly (Rhode Island) and its witnesses. J. A. & R. A. Reid. Providence. 1878. Purchase of Misquamicut, pp. 47-50
  8. Rhode Island, U.S., Vital Extracts, 1636-1899 for Robert Stanton Vol. 07:122: Friends and Ministers: Births, Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths.
  9. Austin, John O. The Journal of William Jefferay, Gentleman (E. L. Freeman & Sons, 1899) Page 132
  10. Find A Grave: Memorial #37971967
  11. 11.0 11.1 NEHGR 15:64 $ubscription link citing Friends Church Newport records, among others.
  12. Austin, John Osborne, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, Albany, J Munsell's Sons, 1887, pg 389

See Also:

  • Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Directory (Boston : NEHGS, 2015), p. 318.
  • Rhode Island, Vital Extracts, 1636-1899-For Death date
  • North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 for Robert Stanton: T. Tanner, William Tanner of North Kingstown, Rhode Island and his descendants, pg. 13-wife listed.
  • History of the Town of Stonington, County of New London, Connecticut: By Richard Anson Wheeler, pg 601 lists early settlers Robert Stanton and Thomas Stanton thought to be brothers with no evidence
  • Meech, Susan Spicer. History of The Descendants of Peter Spicer (F.H. Gilson Co., Boston, 1911) Page 13 Note: this citation does not appear to be directly relevant to this profile.

Caution:

The following citations are frequently seen and cannot be documented to pertain to this Robert Stanton. They have been left on this profile to provide this caution.

  • Robert Stanton in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975-lists father as Thomas Stanton-7 Jan 1603 as bap date
  • Thomas Stanton London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 -father is Thomas Stanton & mother Mary-13 Jan 1707 marriage date
  • https://stantonsociety.org/docs/TSS%20V3I1.pdf Note: this PDF does not appear to have any connection with this profile but has been left in place.




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Perhaps he is son of a different Thomas Stanton;

https://gw.geneanet.org/andredaniela?n=stanton&oc=&p=robert&_gl=1*xyr6vf*_gcl_au*MTE0OTg0OTU3MS4xNzA1MTI4MTkw

Father: Captain Thomas Stanton III of Wolverton and Langley "an ancient captaine in the Irish wars" Mother: Lady Maria Cotton Gibbons Pudsey

posted by Zacchary David
This is one of the theories which, like the others, lacks a documented connection. Neither of the links at the geneanet page for origin sources contains documentation or a reasoned analysis of secondary evidence to suggest a connection is likely (one of these theories is present on the free space page linked to this profile). Since WikiTree follows the scholarship of Robert Anderson and he has already done research on Robert Stanton which found his parentage to be unknown, we hope that in his next series of books treating more of the Great Migration in further detail that he may turn his attention to further work on Robert Stanton.
posted by T Stanton
Zacchary,

Please notice that this Geneanet tree cites only other "trees" in its sources (one of which happens to be WikiTree, funnily enough). But beyond that, please note that PGM Profiles, and all pre-1700 profiles, rely only on reliable sources. A list is available here for some ideas of sources to search for further research.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Daughter Mary was detached and her LNAB changed to Unknown per https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1517168/children-of-pgm-robert-stanton?show=1517168#q1517168. See: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-630889. Research Notes about this change should be added to each profile.
posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
Thanks, Traci. I will probably reattach Mary until the research on her is more complete because much of what is cited on that profile pertains to someone named Mary Stanton (whether she is a daughter of Robert is uncertain). Part of the reason I added the PPP to this profile.
posted by T Stanton
Mary is now reconnected and PPP by Quakers Project until the major questions of both parentage and husband are sorted out. We know that various citations on the profile belong to a Mary Stanton whether or not she is the daughter of Robert and/or husband of Pasco Whitfield are not determined as yet.
posted by T Stanton
PGM Team: we should have a look at the attached daughter Mary. While my search was not exhaustive, I don't find primary or credible secondary sources for the father/daughter relationship. S Willson recently made similar notation on the daughter profile. She appears (absent docs) in Wm Henry Stanton's 1922 work cited/linked as #3 in Sources (pg 30) as does the likely mythical eldest son Robert. I am currently unable to ascertain where this connection was originally made. There is a Comment on the daughter profile questioning the maiden name of Mary in relation to her husband. I suppose this is possible though a number of primary or credible secondary sources are cited on the profile...if the maiden name of the wife of that husband is not Stanton, then these citations are misapplied. (Note: Robert Stanton is not an ancestor of mine.)
posted by T Stanton
Aren’t there any clues as to which part of the country he might have come from. Whixh ship did he arrive on or doesn’t anyone know?

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
As far as I know, the Great Migration Project of New England Historical and Genealogical Society has not uncovered additional information regarding the point of origin since Anderson's The Great Migration Directory was published in 2015. That gives his point of origin as "Unknown." It is the same with the Thomas Stanton first found in the colonies in 1635 (three years prior to Robert Stanton). The sad fact is that knowing the ship on which someone arrived is very often not the case.
posted by T Stanton
I’ll have a poke around in som Stanton wills, you never know might get lucky!

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Thank you, Ann. I hope that you might find something to shed some light on the many unknowns.
posted by T Stanton
Replying on this thread but this is pertinent to all working on the family. Rhode Island Historical Society has the early Rhode Island Quaker records on microfilm with free access in their reading room. They will offer a limited amount of research in the microfilm when a volunteer becomes available. The extant records are 1672 onward and New England Yearly Meeting indicates the first meeting that Robert likely belonged to began in 1657. If the extant records follow the norms, we should find some earlier information on the family entered at a later point. Perhaps this will confirm the children, is Mary Stanton friend of Harwood Long Gardiner the daughter of Robert, and perhaps some reference to a point of origin for Robert.
posted by T Stanton
Does "They will offer a limited amount of research in the microfilm" imply digitization of [some] records, and accessibility online? If so, for those of us with significant Quaker ancestry in RI this could be a very important development.
posted by Christopher Childs
Hi Christopher. The microfilm is in the reading room but not accessible remotely. Yes, this is significant to learn for all of us with RI Quaker heritage. RIHS will offer an hour of free research to anyone, you can join and get two free hours (which is a good deal), and they do offer paid research after that. The response to my first inquiry was quick (a day) and amiable.

They also sent this link to something I had not before seen from New England Yearly Meeting and it is of great value (and has been added to the Quakers resource page). https://neym.org/sites/default/files/2019-05/GuideToRecordsRSOF_1997.pdf

posted by T Stanton
Thanks. I do hope that indomitable volunteers will gradually make these records online-accessible. For those of us at a significant distance from RI and with minimal budgets to pay for research by others, that would be an enormous help.
posted by Christopher Childs
Has anyone looked at the following reference which sites other references within it suggesting several different potential links between Robert Stanton (Newport, RI) and Thomas Stanton (of Stonington, CT). Seems to possibly link them as Uncle and Nephew.

REF: "Thomas Stanton of Connecticut and his Decendants" by William Alonzo Stanton is listed as an excerpt in the REF: "Our Ancestors - The Stanton Family". See specifically page 20 - states a Thomas Stanton born 1616 in Wolverton, Warwickshire, England to Thomas Stanton (born 1595) whom married Katherine Washington (daughter of Walter Washington of Radway) on July 30 1616 and had a son Thomas in 1616 in Wolverton. The Elder Thomas was thought to be the son of John and Elizabeth (Townsend) Stanton of Longbridge, Warwickshire, England and it is this elder Thomas that could be Robert Stanton's brother.

There is also this reference for a son born in England - REF "Our Ancestors - The Stanton Family" by Henry Stanton 1922: Page 16-18 indicates that Robert had a son while still in England then Sarah and Mary were possibly born in Portmouth, RI when he settled here in 1638, and John was born when they moved to Newport, RI.

I would be interested if this proves to be a link to this Robert Stanton.

posted by Barbara Marshik
edited by Barbara Marshik
Thank you, Barbara. The problem with the speculative parts of William Henry Stanton's work are just that--they are speculative absent documentation despite genealogists (including Robert Anderson and the NEHGS Great Migration Project) looking for any documentation for well over a century now. As the profile notes, no one knows the English point of origin for Robert Stanton. Thus we have no idea how to document a son Robert who is nowhere documented in England or in Rhode Island. Robert has only been left on the profile as a son because he is commonly seen absent any documentation--that should perhaps be made more clear by creating a Undocumented Child category for him. The Research Notes section of the profile details some of the various speculation regarding undocumented family connections. As a side note, I am in no way related to this Robert Stanton.
posted by T Stanton
July 2022 a 3-generation list of ancestors & collateral people was added in the "Sources" section without specific source but clearly copied from another web site or publication without attribution. PGM and WT standards do not support this style of information on a profile since it is supposed to be about a person and their immediate family & personal experiences. Pre-1700 profiles especially require reliable sources which this information did not have. Extended information such as this belongs in a Free Space Page to which it has been moved. https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Space:Possible_ancestors_of_Robert_Stanton-48_of_England&public=1

Please do not re-insert this type of information, thank you.

posted by Brad Stauf
Thanks for moving that info. I had only noticed its addition a day or two ago.
posted by T Stanton
Early morning PGM activity feed check ;)
posted by Brad Stauf
PGM Leaders: please have a look at the profile linked under Disputed Parentage. This statement originally had links to two profiles, I deleted one as it wasn't even the correct name and the one still linked here doesn't appear to make any sense to have been a candidate as father. Perhaps the problems in the profile linked under disputed parentage have been resolved. I wonder if the link should simply be removed but leave the name Thomas Stanton?
posted by T Stanton
Profile has now been reorganized following a messy merge (with no cleanup). I've left the citation to William Tanner of North Kingstown, Rhode Island and his descendants as written though it's confusing. Perhaps the person who added the citation can revise it and perhaps add a link if the work is digitized.
posted by T Stanton
Child of Nicholas and Elizabeth (Wright) Stanton

Name: Robert Stanton

Baptism Age: 0

Event Type: Baptism

Birth Date: Abt 1606

Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1606

Baptism Place: Stratton St Michael and St Peter, Norfolk, England

Father: Nicholas Stanton

Mother: Elizabeth

I believe that Nicholas may have had a brother Robert. Nicholas also baptised a son John.

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
How do you connect this baptism to the man in the colony?
posted by T Stanton
A lot of the associated families went on the Diligent. Some of the England Project members have been collaborating with the PGM project with respect to the Cooper, Gilman and Lincoln families who emigrated. Robert Stanton and other Stanton family have been mentioned in some of the wills we have been transcribing.

I’m just putting it as a possibility. Looking at Stanton entries from Stratton parish register there is a Danyell Stanton as a baptism, father Nicholas but mother is Mary in 1598 I think. Mary may have been the first wife of Nicholas, or it may be another Nicholas called the elder. Family names seem similar Nicholas and Elizabeth had sons John and Robert, daughter Judith plus more I expect only just started looking at the register. I believe they might be worth a good look at.

ETA there’s also this Will of a Nicholas Stanton https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101073398487&view=1up&seq=288&skin=2021&q1=Stanton

Compare the names in the will of Nicholas Stanton and the names of Nicholas and Elizabeth Stanton’s children Elizabeth has her profile here:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wrighte-20

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
edited by Ann Browning
Just a note to PGM Project that this profile appears to have suffered significantly during the last merge. Will put it on my clean-up list for this weekend (time permitting).
posted by T Stanton
A Robert Stanton is mentioned in the Will of Marie/Mary Cooper of Hingham in 1626..

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Will_of_Mary_Cowper%2C_1626

Also Robert Wright of Hingham mentions his son in law Nicholas Stanton

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Will_of_Robert_Wright%2C_Gentleman_of_Hengham%2C_Norfolk_1627

Could there be a connection?

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Any PGM objection to placing a Children section on this profile? See pg 30 of the W H Stanton book linked above and we can add additional citations. Per my note below, there seems to be confusion as to whether he was or was not Quaker. His burial is recorded in the Newport meeting minutes however W H Stanton states the records say son John was the first member of the family openly Quaker. I've not yet found a copy of the actual meeting minutes (vs a transcription or index).
posted by T Stanton
A child list would be a good addition. --Gene
posted by GeneJ X
Note NEHGR 15:65 cites Friends Meeting Newport records which gives his burial date (rather than death date) as 29th of 6 mo 1672. Any PGM objections to the Quakers Sticker appearing on this profile? He is the ancestor of the highly noted Quaker minister Daniel Stanton (1708-1770) whose journal continues to be reprinted to this day and is significant among early Quaker literature.
posted by T Stanton
edited by T Stanton
Absolutely no objections to a Quaker Sticker. Go for it.

Jen, for PGM

posted by Jen (Stevens) Hutton
Stanton-48 and Stanton-5723 appear to represent the same person because: Sorry, the Stanton-48 profile did not appear as a possible match when creating Stanton-5723. They are the same person.
posted on Stanton-5723 (merged) by T Stanton
Can someone please disconnect this non existent father from him and temporarily add PGM protection to Avis, his wife. It has been proven that she was not an Almy so her maiden name needs to be changed to Unknown. The profile manager has been unresponsive.
posted by Alan Pendleton
Avis is now being managed by PGM. PGM volunteers, will one of you do some additional research and confirm that the father of this profile needs to be detached? Thanks,

Jen

posted by Jen (Stevens) Hutton
Monica (Alan Pendleton) is PGM volunteer. Monica, please add source for father’s detachment, disputed origins paragraph with inline citation. Then ask for parent to be detached. Many thanks.
25 August 1608 baptism of a Robert Stanton son of Richard Stanton and wife Joane at Mudford, Somerset. (image 21 of 36)

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60856/englb030d_d-p-mudf-2-1-1_m_00001

posted by Beryl Meehan
For Beryl Meehan and others: the Wolverton birthplace is an attempt to link Robert to alleged father Thomas Stanton (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stanton-104) who died in Wolverton. Maria Pudsey is Thomas' wife.
posted by Kevin Nauta
As I researched this line I ended up at a pedigree site that gives his father as Thomas Stanton. I came here to see if anyone had evidence either proving or disproving this link. (http://fabpedigree.com/s092/f514179.htm)
posted by DJ (Durazzo) Jasper
This active tree link shows bp as Wolverton but no acceptable source is given as proof for this place name.

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/108001534/person/340062209690/facts?ssrc=

Earliest church record in Wolverton is 1614. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/613456?availability=Family%20History%20Library

posted by Beryl Meehan
Link will not open:

Ancestry Family Trees - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=14401858&pid=1022426543

posted by Beryl Meehan
Correct link https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/48063/AncestralRecsPortraitsI-005635-105/178006

....names wife as Avis Almy

Vol 1 page 105 (not 113)

posted by Beryl Meehan

Rejected matches › Robert Stanton Sr (1716-1779)

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