Margaret (Abbott) Warren (bef. 1589 - 1662)

Born before 27 Jul 1589 in Chappel, Essex, England

Ancestors

Wife of John Warren Sr — married 1615 in England

Descendants

Died 6 Nov 1662 after age 73 in Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony

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New Research supports Last Name at Birth was Abbott

Margaret's last name at birth is Abbott. Some Internet genealogies identify her incorrectly as Margaret Bayl(e)y, daughter of William Bayly of Westbury, Gloucester, England, but Margaret Bayley was a different person, married to a different John Warren (see sources on Margaret Bayl(e)y's profile. The 1614 will of William Bayly of Westbury is said to refer to John Warren as "now husband of my daughter Margaret" (see http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sam/warwills2.html and http://bigelowsociety.com/rod/warren1.htm), however, the John Warren who married Margaret of Westbury was not the same John Warren who lived in Nayland, Sussex (100+ miles distant from Westbury). There is a marriage record between a John Warren and a Margret Abbott on 4 Nov 1612 at St Barnabas church in Chappel, Essex, 10 miles away from Nayland, Suffolk, which seems plausible.^[1] A Margret Abbott, daughter of Thomas Abbott, was baptized in that same church on 27 Jul 1589. ^[2]

Biography

Margaret (Abbott) Warren was born in England.

Margaret (Abbott) Warren was born in Chappel, Essex, England.

Birth and Baptism

Margaret Abbott was baptised 27 July 1589 at Chappel, Essex, England, the daughter of Thomas Chappel and probably his only known wife, Anne.^[3][4]

Marriage

Margaret Abbott married John Warren on Nov 1612 at St Barnabas church in Chappel, Essex.^{[5] [6]} John was a son of John Warren & Elizabeth Scarlett, of Nayland, Suffolk, England.^[7] Anderson's earlier research suggested Margaret married John Warren by 1615, no location mentioned. ^[8] Torrey places their marriage in England also by 1615.^[9]

Children

John and Margaret had at least 7 children:

1. Marie, bap. 23 Apr 1615, Nayland, Suffolk, England, bur. 17 Dec 1622, Nayland, Suffolk, England.^[7]
2. Elizabeth bap. 25 Jun 1619, Nayland, Suffolk, England, bur. 25 NOv 1622, Nayland, Suffolk, England.^[7]
3. Sarah baptised 20 Apr 1620, Nayland, Suffolk, England, bur. 7 Sep 1621, Nayland, Suffolk, England.^[7]
4. John baptised 12 May 1622, Nayland, Suffolk, England,^[10] married Michal Jennison alias Bloyss, 11 Jul 1667, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony,^[11] d. 27 Jan 1703, Watertown, Middlesex, Massacusetts Bay Colony.^[12]
5. Mary bap. 12 Sep 1624, Nayland, Suffolk, England,^[7] m. John Bigelow 30 Oct 1642, Watertown,Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony,^[13] Mary Warrin Biglo died 19 Oct 1691, Watertown, Massachusetts Bay Colony.^[14]
6. Daniel baptised 25 Feb 1626/7, Nayland, Suffolk, Englandm=,^[15] m. Mary Barron, 10 Dec 1650, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony^[16], d. after 1698.
7. Elizabeth bap. 2 July 1629, Nayland, Suffolk, England,^[17] m. James Knapp alias Knopp prob. bef. 1655,^[18] d. 12 Jan 1715/6, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony.^[19]

Threlfall also mentions Susan, who would have been baptized on 14 April 1612 in Nayland, Suffolk, England. Although not clear, it would seem that he credits the information to Bond's Genealogies of the families and descendants of the early settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts.^[20] Bond, however, never mentioned Susan.^[21] Since Threlfall's essay contains a few mistakes and very few citations to support his claims and also no trusted sources could be found so far to demonstrate Susan's existence, she will not be included here as one of John and Margaret's children. The list proposed by Anderson seems to be more consistent with the primary soruces and trusted secondary sources found to date.^[8]

Life in England

Since all their children were baptized in Nayland, Suffolk, England, it seems safe to assume that was also where the couple resided before immigrating to New England.

Immigration

John and Margaret were among those who joined the exodus to America. They seem to have come to New England in 1630, from Nayland, Suffolk, England, with the Winthrop fleet. The fleet arrived in New England between June and July 1630.^[22] Despite claims on several genealogies on the internet that John Warren and his family traveled with Governor Winthrop aboard the "Arabella", no documentation has been found to support that. Furthermore, it has not been possible to identify the name of the ship which carried John Warren and his family to New England.^[23] Despite the absence of primary sources listing Margaret and their children by name among those who came with the Winthrop Fleet, Margaret and their children John, Mary, Daniel and Elizabeth appear in several colonial records and would have probably arrived with John Warren.

Death

Margaret died 6 November 1662 in Watertown, Massachusetts^[24]. Her husband died in Watertown, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, on 13 December 1667^[25].

Research Notes

• From "Bullard and Allied Families" – John Warren had a homestead and seven other lots, aggregating 188 acres. he died December 13, 1667, aged 82 years. His wife Margaret (surname unknown), died November 6, 1662. His will dated November 30, 1667, was proved December 17 of that year..."
• Per SAVAGE, VOL 4 DICT. FIRST SETTLERS OF New England: WARREN, JOHN, Watertown, came probably in 1630, in the fleet with Sir Richard Saltonstall, then aged about 45, and having wife and children (four certainly are named in his will, and of them only Elizabeth could be born here). His wife Margaret died 6 November 1662. She was probably the mother of all his children John, born 1622; Mary; and Daniel, born 1628; beside Elizabeth who married about 1654, James Knapp. Mary married 30 Oct. 1642, John Bigelow.

Sources

1. ↑ Marriage: "FreeReg UK Parish Register database"
   Essex; Chappel; St Barnabas; Parish Register; File line number: 46
   FreeReg Transcription (accessed 23 November 2022)
   Margret Abbott marriage to John Warren on 4 Nov 1612 in Chappel, Essex, England.
2. ↑ Baptism: "FreeReg UK Parish Register database"
   Essex; Chappel; St Barnabas; Parish Register; File line number: 127
   FreeReg Transcription (accessed 23 November 2022)
   Margret Abbott baptism on 27 Jul 1589 (born 27 Jul 1589), daughter of Thomas Abbott, in Chappel, Essex, England.
3. ↑ "FreeReg UK Parish Register database"
   Essex; Chappel; St Barnabas; Parish Register; File line number: 127
   FreeReg Transcription (accessed 23 November 2022)
   Margret Abbott baptism on 27 Jul 1589 (born 27 Jul 1589), daughter of Thomas Abbott, in Chappel, Essex, England.
4. ↑ England, Essex Record Office. Chappel, St Branabas. Baptisms, 1538-1764. Baptism of Margaret, daughter of Thomas Abott born and baptized the 17 day of july 1589. Reference: D/P 87/1/1. Requires subscription $.
5. ↑ Marriage: "FreeReg UK Parish Register database", Essex; Chappel; St Barnabas; Parish Register; File line number: 46, FreeReg Transcription (accessed 23 November 2022)
   Margret Abbott marriage to John Warren on 4 Nov 1612 in Chappel, Essex, England.
6. ↑ England, Essex Record Office. Chappel, St Branabas. Marriages, 1539-1753. John Warren and Margaret Abbott were married 5 November 1612. Reference: D/P 87/1/1. Requires subscription $.
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4} Genealogical Research in England: Nayland parish records. The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (64:353) Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1910, p. 353.
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1} Anderson, Robert Charles, John Warren The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. Pages 1932-34 (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010)
9. ↑ New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Vol. 3. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015, p. 1600.
10. ↑ Baptism: "Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 FindMyPast Transcription (accessed 26 November 2022) John Warrin baptism on 12 May 1622 (born 1622), son of John, in Nayland, Suffolk, England.
11. ↑ Watertown Records (Fred G. Barker, Watertown, Mass., 1894-) Vol. 1, p. 29. Early Vital Records of Massachusetts from 1600 to 1850. Marriage records for Watertown, Massachusetts, Watertown - Marriages.
12. ↑ "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHCG-8W5 : 20 May 2022), John Capt. Warren, 27 Jan 1703; citing Death, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British Colonial America, Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth, Boston; FHL microfilm 007009514.
13. ↑ "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPZT-M851 : 11 May 2022), John Bigulah and Mary Warin, 30 Sep 1642; citing Marriage, Watertown, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British Colonial America, Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth, Boston; FHL microfilm 007011107.
14. ↑ Watertown Records P. 64
15. ↑ Baptism: "Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911"
    FindMyPast Transcription (accessed 26 November 2022)
    Daniel Warrin baptism on 25 Feb 1626 (born 1626), son of John, in Nayland, Suffolk, England.
16. ↑ Watertown Records P. 15
17. ↑ Baptism: "Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911"
    FindMyPast Transcription (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Elizabeth Warrin baptism on 2 Jul 1629 (born 1629), daughter of John, in Nayland, Suffolk, England.
18. ↑ Marriage: "U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700"
    Genealogical Publishing Co.; Baltimore, MD, USA; Volume Title: Third Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 3824 #900179582 (accessed 17 November 2022)
    Elizabeth Knopp marriage to James Knopp in About 1655.
19. ↑ "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHCG-D6G : 20 May 2022), Elizabeth Knap, 12 Jan 1716; citing Death, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British Colonial America, Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth, Boston; FHL microfilm 007009514.
20. ↑ Bond, Henry & Jones, Horatio Gates. Genealogies of the families and descendants of the early settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts, including Waltham and Weston : to which is appended the early history of the town. Vol. 1. Boston: N.E. Historic-genealogical Society, for the benefit of the "Bond fund", 1860, p. 960.
21. ↑ Threlfall, John B. Fifty great migration colonists to New England & their origins. Madison, WI: Pub. by author, 1990, p. 481.
22. ↑ Anderson, Robert Charles. The Winthrop Fleet of 1630. NEHGS, 2012. Pages 43. 312. 436. 661-665. 701, 703.
23. ↑ Banks, Charles Edward. The Winthrop fleet of 1630; an account of the vessels, the voyage, the passengers, and their English homes from original authorities. Boston, Houghton Mifflin company, 1930, Illustrations between p. 48 and 49.
24. ↑ Watertown Records P. 24
25. ↑ Watertown RecordP. 29

• Leslie Mahler, "The English Origin of George(1) Abbott of Rowley, Massachusetts" TAG Vol. 85(2011):26, citing Chappel, Essex, parish register [Family History Library (FHL), Salt Lake City, film #1,565, 700, item 6]
• Leslie Mahler, "Margaret Abbott, Wife of John1 Warren of Watertown, Massachusetts, and Sister of George1 Abbott of Rowley, Massachusetts" TAG 92(2021, pub. 2022):63-64