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WikiTree profile: Pip Sheppard
closed with the note: Until next weekend, adios!
in The Tree House by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (2.7m points)
closed by Pip Sheppard

After a two-week hiatus, it’s THE RETURN OF THE WEEKEND CHAT! And, greetings once again from rainy Cathey’s Creek where we have had gentle rains and wild thunder storms all week. Not that it rains all day, but we must plan our errands so to avoid the Transylvania Crazies, those people who don’t even know how to drive when it’s sunny, much less in the rain.

On the Home Front: It is with great sadness that I pass on to you the closing of Rocky’s Grill and Soda Shop. This 50s-themed, throw-back restaurant has been an anchor in our downtown for 28 years. We are crushed. This was one of our favorite places to eat in town. They had great food and super-great shakes and were so popular that people would wait up to an hour on the sidewalk for a table or booth.

The Saga of the Shoulder: Finally, yesterday, after three trips to the in-town orthopedist, I was able to get them to send all the medical records to the doctor in Asheville. Therapy goes apace, and things are improving, but I still have to be careful of quick moves. The head dude at the PT place says that I’ve gained in strength which I was very pleased to hear. Still, typing can be painful, and I had one of my fellow Greeters, Sheryl Moore, covered some of my Greeter shifts last week. Thank you, Sheryl!

My dad would have turned 100 years old two days ago.

On the Genealogy Front: About a week before last weekend’s Connect-a-thon, I went to Ancestry to see if there were any new DNA matches. I found one, a descendant of my gg-uncle, Luther David Shepherd of Macon County, North Carolina. Luther’s second wife, Ethel, was also a Shepherd, so I went on the hunt. Her father was already on WikiTree, but not the next generation.  He had a father in the records, a William Shepherd, but not on WikiTree.

I couldn’t find anything for a bit, but looking over the 1850 census, I found William’s family split by pages, and there he was at the top of the second page. I created a profile for him and then connected him to his parents already on WikiTree. This is the family I worked with for the thon. I added every descendant I could discover for old William. Finds:

1) Fully 15-20% of the descendants died before the age of three. One couple had three children, all who died young. Another had five children, only one who survived until adulthood.
2) Three married someone whose parents were already on WikiTree. One of those was a family that Tabor Hoff Fisher has been working. I let her know and she connected her to her DeHart family.
3) On fella lied about his age to get into the US Air Force. He was 15 at the time. Four days after arriving in Seattle for his first duty station, he was killed by a taxi in the street. The Air Force had him listed as 18, but he was only 16.
4) Several of the spouses that married into this family have ancestry in the same county which I have not connected. Rickman, Welch, Raby, etc….
5) One woman never married but had about eight children. Only one father has been identified… yet.
6) My CC7 increased from 4875 to 4919.

All in all, I added somewhere around 270 profiles to WikiTree. Sadly, my watchlist is now 5451. Now, I am working on one of Luther’s sister’s descendants.

Here’s to all of you dear people who are so precious and wonderful. Have a great weekend!

Enjoy the Chat!

Morning Pip, thanks for the chat!
Hi Pip, lots of endings, it seems. Sorry to hear of the soda shop. When I was a kid, our local drugstore had a soda counter with those round seats and we could order sundaes, phosphates and 'Green River.' When that section closed, it was like losing a good, steady friend.

I hope your shoulder diagnosis comes soon. I don't know how you managed over 200 during the Thon with your shounder and Greeter duties. You are a marvel! And a Happy Birthday to your dad in Spirit. I think of my dad every June 12th on his birthday.

Pip, I worked on one  couple's profile that had eight children and none of the children reached adulthood. This was the saddest connection I had every done. I actually felth grief for those poor parents.

My CC7 didn't change one bit! Have a great weekend. Hope Mike is doing well in this heat!
So sorry to hear about the shake shop closing. It's always sad to see a favorite place go.
Hey, man. Sorry about the soda shop closing. It sucks when places like that close. =( I felt the same way about Mike's Red Barn. Best Italian subs ever. And then they turned it into a variety of convenience stores before finally deciding on becoming a smoke shop. Ugh.

I hope the shoulder is okay. I was thinking about you during the connect a thon. Glad you did a lot of work! My cc7 didn't move at all. More on that in a bit and on what I've been up to. =D

Thanks for hosting and typing that while in pain. Good luck, man! Here's hoping everything turns out good.
Carol, Mike was up at Moab the other day hiking. He sent us photos, and i was wondering how he could stand the heat!

Growing up, there was a drugstore we always went to in the neighboring town, Charlie's Drugs. It, too, had the round seats and wonderful milkshakes. Mom used to take us there right after a doc appointment. Dr. Rankin was located right next door!
Chris, I did take off time from the Thon on Saturday. I didn't want to push things too much, but I did get about nine hours in on Sunday.
You did a great job, Pip! =D
Pip, I commiserate with you over the closing of a favorite eating place! Recently, our favorite little Chinese restaurant was forced to close because their rent was substantially increased. We loved their food and it was our favorite take-out!
Hi Pip, its doubly sad to lose a great restaurant plus one with such good memories.

Pip, even though it is a 2800 mile journey, of 42 hours driving time, I shed a tear at Rocky's closing. crying

That's only 70 mph, grab 2nd gear! I want to fish Canada one more time at least, for a greasy cheese in Colquit, Mn? I forget the name of the place but, I saw it on DDD and it is written somewhere in my notes on one of several trips to the Northern Outback.
K, past wisdom has taught me not to exceed 70 mph in 1st gear, as I once had to send for a friend's mother to bail me out of jail......and dig her garden the following weekend.

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Top of the Morning from Lone Jack Mo. I guess I’ll go see another one of my Dr’s this afternoon. We put off some cardio stuff back in Dec due to COVID and RSV. My other Dr said I’m in pretty good shape for the shape I’m in. Now if I can get him to agree with her we are good for another year or so.

  From the battlefield: After a few more connections, I am related to one of the Col that fought there. J Vardaman Cockrell is a 4c5r. Wm Calvin Tate, one of the six men in the “six man cemetery” is also 4c5r. This genealogy stuff is weird. Speaking of weird, I’m coming up on my one year anniversary on Wiki this week, doesn’t seem possible. 8300 plus contributions, 3100 connections and 200k g2g points. I’m afraid my Wiki report card will read like 3rd grade report card, “talks too much in class”.

by K Smith G2G6 Pilot (377k points)
Lol K Smith! I think you havedone fabulous for only being on WikiTree not quite one year.
K...I agree with Liza! Congrats on the upcoming year anniversary and great job!
Well thanks but, I give credit to those numbers for being connected to some heavy hitters from my past. It was easy to fill in the blanks, or connect the dots, rather than blaze a trail.
But you have 8300+ contributions! That represents a lot of work.
Beats being bored!  Off to the Battlefield.
K, my first grade report card - "Refrains from unnecessary talking... U (for unsatisfactory)". I am still a talker which was one reason I got the Chat job some years ago.

What a great first year you have had!!!
Happy WikiTree Anniversary! Sound like a fantastic WT report card.

Hope you continue to improve from Long Covid!
Thanks Cousin Margaret. As far as my Dr goes, now he is inclined to believe more medication is in order. You know what they say, If they walk like a duck and talk like a duck, you just might have a quack for a Dr. I think I will list all my Drs on my headstone that failed me if I don't outlive my oldest relative. I think that's like 106.
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Due to listening to Prime Country on Sirus XM this week, my brain went Country!

BONUS SONG: 

devil CONNECT-A-THON THEME SONGdevil

Ain't Shutting Down ('til the sun comes up)

Sung to the tune of Ain't Going Down

  • Written by Garth Brooks, Kent Blazy and Kim Williams
  • Recorded by American Country Artist Garth Brooks
  • Released in July 1993 and peaked at number 1 for a week in the USA and 16 in the UK
    • Parody by Dave Draper

Here’s the Music"' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAdOM3xfmTo

  • Click on the link then come back here, the music should play, and try to sing along!
  • Or Open the link in a new window
  • Ain't Going Down ('Til The Sun Comes Up)
  • Six o’clock on Friday morning
  • Hubby (Tom) doesn’t know she’s “Thonning”
  • ‘Til he hears the bed door slamming
  • Music squealing, fingers jamming
  • Local country station just a-blaring on the radio.
  • Connections stand at seven and she’s headed for a thousand more!
  • Husband (Tom) on the front porch
  • screamin' out his warning:
  • "Girl, you better get your red head
  • Back in bed before the morning!
  • Nine o’clock and she’s not ending
  • But the fun is just beginning
  • She’s behind but calculating
  • But she’s still participating
  • Grab a bite to eat and heading back in to Connect-a-Thon
  • But Mighty Oaks a leadin’'; just ain’t what she really wants
  • Dive back into the boondocks
  • And Family Search a sheet
  • And where it's George Strait 'til real late,
  • And connecting gals and geeks
  • Ain't shutting down 'til the sun comes up.
  • Ain't givin' in 'til she gets enough.
  • And one more connected ain’t gonna be enough
  • Ain't shutting down 'til the sun comes up.
  • Ten ‘til twelve it’s graveyard searching
  • Midnight starts with coffee drinking
  • One o’clock her farts are stinking
  • Two is coming, still no stopping.
  • Break to check the clock at three.
  • She’s right on where she wants to be
  • Four o'clock get up and going.
  • Five o'clock that rooster's crowing.
  • Ain't shutting down 'til the sun comes up.
  • Ain't givin' in 'til she gets enough.
  • And one more connected ain’t gonna be enough
  • Ain't shutting down 'til the sun comes up.
  • Six o'clock on Saturday.
  • Her spouse don’t know she’s in a daze
  • The stall ain’t clean, the horse ain’t fed
  • They say she’s frazzled, looks half dead!
  • But here she comes around the bend
  • Not Slowing down! She jumped back in!
  • Sorry, Tom, (husband) its Connect-A-Thon
  • And here she goes again!
  • Ain't shutting down 'til the sun comes up.
  • Ain't givin' in 'til she gets enough.
  • And one more connected ain’t gonna be enough
  • Ain't shutting down 'til the sun comes up.

Down On The Forum

Sung to the tune of Down on the Farm

  • Written by Jerry Laseter and Kerry Kurt Phillips
  • Recorded by American Country Artist Tim McGraw
  • Released in July 1994 and peaked at number 2 on the US Billboard Hot Country Singles
    • Parody by Dave Draper

Here is the Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YFCZb3rLb8

  • Click on the link then come back here, the music should play, and try to sing along!
  • Or Open the link in a new window
  • Down on the Forum (pronounced “form")
  • 12 seconds (of red necks talkin’) then…
  • Every Friday morning we kick up lots of dust
  • Posting ‘bout our lives and our pick up trucks
  • Got some music crankin’ way up loud
  • Got coffee brewed here, drinking it down
  • They’re posting bout a fire. But don’t be alarmed
  • It’s just good ‘ole Wikipeeps getting down on the forum! (pronounced "form")
  • Ed’s been on a chatin’, ain’t seen his wife all week!
  • He’s posting up some pictures of a beautiful creek
  • Farmer Johnson’s daughter shows a pic of her Jeep
  • Man, she knows how to drive it if ya know what I mean
  • Old Dave’s (Draper) getting’ loud, but he don’t mean no harm
  • We’re just good ‘ole Wikipeeps getting down on the forum! (pronounced "form")
  • You can have a lot of fun when you click on in it.
  • But there’s a lot of things that’s posted, and there’s no limits!
  • Ain't no closing time, ain't no cover charge
  • Just good ‘ole Wikipeeps getting down on the forum! (pronounced "form")
  • Well, you can come as you are, there ain't no dress code
  • Just some Weekend Chat rules that you need to know
  • Don’t post no bull crap! Don’t post nothin’ mean!
  • Always say “Thank You!” Just say “”Kewl Beans!”
  • If the wife catches me, I might get just harmed!
  • We’re just good ‘ole Wikipeeps getting down on the forum!(pronounced "form")
  • You can have a lot of fun when you click on in it.
  • But there’s a lot of things that's posted, and there’s no limits!
  • Ain't no closing time, ain't no cover charge
  • Just good ‘ole Wikipeeps getting down on the forum! (pronounced "form")
  • Ain't no closing time, ain't no cover charge
  • Just good ‘ole Wikipeeps getting down on the forum! (pronounced "form")
  • Ah, let's get down y'all
  • Come in: Say “Hey”

24 of Dave's Song Parodies! Enjoy!

Thanks PIP!  Enjoy the Weekend Chat y'all!

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.8m points)
edited by David Draper

"Ed’s been on a chatin’, ain’t seen his wife all week!" Why does this sound so familiar, David?!? cheeky

Another great song, David. Thanks for being a presense here every week!

This one will stick in my head for sure :)
Love it! Love it! Love it!
As always, one of my favorite posts on the weekend chat.
Yep, that's how I pronounce forum! Form. I'm as country as they come.

That's funny, Pip!  I tried to boost the weekend chat views by adding the Bonus Song on about the Connect-A-Thon.  Not sure if it made a difference! wink But, now we have a ConnectA Thon song!

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¡Buenos días a todos from the Old Pueblo! It is 7:00 am and 89F (31.7C) with an expected high of 110F (43.3C) wth a 40% chance of rain skies. We had one good downpour on Monday and that is the rain thus far.

I participated with the Mighty Oaks during last weekend’s Thon. I did not do as well as I had hoped. I managed to connect 75 members. There was some difficulty when I began on Friday morning. According to my records, I had connected some twenty people between 8 and 11 am; however, the tracker kept showing three. Sadly, I had to contact (bug) Mindy several times. The directions that she sent were exactly the directions that I was following. Nevertheless, I lost some twenty and would have had closer to 100 by late Sunday night. I am sure I would have had more, but my OCD kicks in and I must not only connect but provide a bit of biography and so on. While this reduces the work when I go back, it takes time from ‘connecting.’

In addition to losing some 20 profiles, I lost 3.5 house on the phone Friday afternoon on a conference call with my colleague, Iris, regarding our book chapter on Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. I spent all day Monday revising the chapter (near done, 152 pages, 1 figure, 3 tables, 318 references). I worked on minor, picky details like checking for typos and making sure it said ‘see Section 5’ that Section 5 addressed what it was supposed to. I sent the revised, nearly done chapter to Iris late Monday night and we had a conference call today. Darn, if she had the audacity to tell me she did not receive the chapter! I told her when I sent it and where she could find it. 

Sure enough, she spent this week with her head Buddha only knows were and we ended up doing what she was supposed to do four days ago! So, while we were on the phone, I wrote an email from my university account to the editors telling them to expect our chapter on July 31st. It’s nearly a month late, but they will still receive it in July and Iris now knows we have a deadline. I must do some work on two tables but will complete them tomorrow and send them along to Iris so she can reconcile them with the chapter references.

This is NOT my only task. I am now the lead on our nurse policy paper and was to send information around to this writing team. I was supposed to do this today but had to send a ‘shame-faced’ email to let them know I would be sending all materials to the writing team this Sunday. The upside with this team is that of the seven or eight of us on the writing team, at least four of us will get the work done in a timely fashion and I will not feel so alone.

The steroid injections that I got to both sides of the lumbar spine two weeks ago are still controlling the pain, I am very happy to report. Now we know that steroid injections rather than ablation are the way to go. I saw the pain nurse practitioner on Wednesday and have another appointment for the 2nd of August for another set of injections if the pain returns. This is a safety measure as I am leaving for Wisconsin on the 8th. I also got a call from my Medicare supplement, and they are sending a nurse practitioner today for a ‘home visit.’ I think I have at least two medical visits/month and it gets a little old. I am amid changing primary care providers. The last time I was him was late last year. The appointments in May, July and now August have been delayed. I cannot go much longer without a ‘captain’ for these health issues and various providers. I got recommendations from the pain provider and selected one near my home that has received glowing recommendations. I am completing forms and have an appointment at the end of August. Boom! Done!

I am working like crazy on the Baldwins both pre-and post-1500. I am flabbergasted at how poorly some of the Buckinghamshire profiles are done…many are incomplete, or unsourced, or are written with death before birth and on and on. Several of these profiles were set up with GEDCOMs and nothing has been done on them since that time (2011–2015). If the PMs do not respond soon to my queries regarding improvement, I will likely contact Jo Fitz-Henry, who is very good about addressing ‘crap tangles’ and ‘going Medieval’ if need be.

Given that M. Ross was so kind to set up a photo space for me that I used for my office photos, I have decided to add a photo a week from ‘some place’ that I went to in the world over the years with a bit of a story about it. I cannot and would not even think about competing with M.Ross for virtual vacays, but I do think one a week will help me to learn more about navigating WikiTree. I will post it later today after the ‘medical home visit’ as I want to attend the Friday Bingo sessions. I have my priorities! Plus, I learn so much during these Bingos.

Pip, as ever, thank you for being the Weekend Chat Chief. Well done, you on the Connect-A-Thon with your team! And I wish all my WikiTree friends and family a great third weekend of July 2023. I will hold intention for all of you for a happy and healthy weekend!

by Carol Baldwin G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

Carol, I think you did great!  Some lost sources because Family Search went down!  I lost Internet connections Sunday afternoon and it didn't come back on until Monday morning!

Next Thon, I'm setting a limit for myself of 30 per day!  After that I notice I get really irritated and start not enjoying the experience.  I want to look back and the see quality, not the quanity and feel good about it!  Plus, I got sort of burnt out and didn't want to make any profiles this last week.  Thanks for sharing! KEWL BEANSwink

Thank you, David! And I understand about setting limits during Thons. I know that every one counts; however, to lose nearly 20 at the starting gate was bothersome! Have a great week!
Carol! I saw you in the thon hangouts! I tried waving to you but it'd have looked weird on camera! Glad you did so well in the thon. I hope things cool off in the desert soon! =O

And I hope you feel better, soon!
Carol, my OCD is that I can never leave a profile with sourcing to the max and categorizing when I can. There ain't no goin' back for me! If I hadda put one source on each profile and moved on, they'd never have gotten completed. The only thing I didn't so was a bio, except fort a few along the way.

I am soooo glad to hear that the shots are holding back the pain some. I know some of what you are experiencing, but my shoulder doesn't compare with what you are dealing with. Hang in there, my dear!
Ciao Cousin Chris! Loved the hangouts! I just read that Tony Bennett died of complications from Alzheimer's. Can you post on G2G so his profile can be updated? He was a beautiful, talented Italian! Hugs, Carol
Sure thing. The Italy Project just got the goahead to work on his tree. I thought someone already posted. Guess not.
Carol, I am so happy to hear that the spinal injections are helping. For several years now, I have had about one injection a year to a year and a half in my neck. I have cervical spine degeneration. They work wonderfully well for me and I need one now so am seeing my pain management doctor next Wednesday. I hope this continues to ease your pain - please keep us updated.
Hi Ginny, I have fallen in love with the steriod injection and the pain doc. It is miraculous how this works. We now know that ablation doesn't work, but the steriod injections do. We are waiting to see how long this injection will last. We all need to be careful with these injections because they lower the immune system. I am very please to hear that these injections work so well for you, too. Isn't it something to be pain free?
Yes being pain-free is wonderful and I am needing an injection as soon as possible. One of my injections is a rhyzotomy which cauterizes the nerve and doesn't tell the brain that you are experiencing pain. Medicare requires the steroid first and then if that doesn't work, I can get the rhyzotomy. That is the one that lasts longest.
Ginny, thanks much for this information on rhyzotomy! I will talk with the doc about his for potential future needs!
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       So happy to be greeting another wonderful weekend. Thons are fun but PHEW! Glad to be back to my routine. I hope everyone had fun connecting new profiles to the tree and bringing us all closer together! Speaking of being back to my old routine, had to roll this circus back to home base for a bit for some routine maintenance (taxes, tags, and vehicle inspections, oil change, etc). Maybe not glamorous but important work. Have been putting an awful lot of miles on my beautiful Betty, time to show her some love. Sometime this weekend I plan to clean her out and do a little detailing, get all that roadtrip detritus taken care of. Made it back from South Carolina (unfortunately had to drive there and back on thon weekend so vastly affected my adding ability but couldn’t be avoided, this was the time Granny had off to spend with the grand babies) It’s a long drive (9 hours) but I’m happy to do it to get some quality memories in. This is the summer of visits for sure.

     Genealogically has been a fun and rewarding two weeks. Was able to connect my Appalachian Notable Hobart McKinley Smith to the tree and am still working on improving his cc7 to get him more connection pathways. I’m especially proud of making headway in researching him because he is a Smith, married to a Smith! LOTS to review to make sure we have the right Smith. Had to break that research up with cleaning up thon profiles, working cemetery categories, and organizing my living room (much like research, a never ending process but very satisfying to get results from). I ordered a new combo toy bin/bookshelf that should make keeping things straight a little easier and leave us some extra floor space. We were also able to team up and push some of our Appalachian team members’ cc7s over the 1K badge threshold so that was also fun and rewarding. I love helping people find their “people.”

     I hope everyone has been staying cool and collected. Virginia gets a bit of a break from the heatwave the south is seeing, but the heat index is still triple digits some days. My daughter is disappointed the heat has been negatively affecting the garden harvest. I fear those with chronic health conditions also need a break from the unrelenting temperatures. May your cc7 stay higher than the numbers on your thermometer!! Have a great week all.

by Erin Robertson G2G6 Pilot (159k points)

Erin, my pedigree brick wall ends in Virginia at North Farnham (Parish) Thomas Draper!  Lots of my Draper burials are in Henry County in Martinsville! ( probably some buried under the Nascar race track! (that's a joke)devil

Erin, you are right. The Thon was fun, but I was exhausted. Stayed off of WikiTree for a day before getting back to it. Glad beautiful Betty made it there an back again (to SC and back).

We haven't hit triple digits of any kind so far this year. Like you, the heat is staying south of us.

Thanks for you help with the cemetery cats. I was surprised the Macon County (and the surrounding area) had so many cemeteries without cats!
Erin,

Hope you get Beautiful Betty Road ready for the next trip. The thon does take a little out of one for sure.

I have been working on two Kentucky Notables and then worked on Abraham Lincoln's CC7 because the collateral of one segued into his family, so that was a fun little side trip. I forgot I worked four or five of my cemeteries Thursday and Friday- one of my favorite things to do. After every thon, I have to go back and do a little housekeeping, but again, the Detailed report on profiles and related FG cemeteries report makes it so easy for us. I have one Appalachia County I have silently adopted for the cemetery clean-up, and then the three counties surrounding me have several cemeteries I monitor and work. The good news about cemetery work is it leads to improving biographies, adding stickers, and other fun ways to improve the profile(s).

Hope you have a great week!
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Hello everyone from Ottawa! Life is fairly quiet here. We are expecting a lot of rain today. While I love the WikiTree thons, they also seem to take a lot out of me. I usually have a goal of 150 profiles and I managed to get 160 this time. I was working on my SIL’s family which started in Canada but then took me to England, Ireland, Scotland, and some British records from China (missionaries). I even found one record where a direct ancestor had converted from Judaism to Christianity (noted in the baptismal record of his daughter).

Pip, happy 100th birthday to your dad. My dad would have been 88 on 24 Jul but instead 26 Jul 2023 will be the 46th anniversary of his death. (He died at age 42 from a genetic kidney disease that was passed down to 4 of his 5 children.) I will always miss him.
by Liza Gervais G2G6 Pilot (397k points)
Hi Liza! I think you and the team did a great job! Yes, Thons can be exhausting. Well done, you for 160! The information you found is so interesting!

My dad was 62 when he died of kidney cancer that spread to his brain. He died in the hospice unit that I worked in at the time. I cared for him a daughter, not a nurse, though. I understand about always missing him. For me, it was like being half an orphan when he died. I guess my only consolation is that I was able to enjoy his presence for 20 years longer than you had with your dad. And as with Pip, I wish your dad a Happy Birthday! Hugs to you!
Yes, thons DO take it out of us, Liza. I was beat when it was done.

I lost my dad a few years before his actual death. He had Alzheimer's, dying 32 years ago. I, too, wish he was still around. So many questions to ask him. He never talked much about his WW II experiences or growing up during the Depression.
I totally understand Pip. My mother has had worsening dementia for years. I didn’t talk to her or visit very often before but it became much more difficult about 3 years ago when she didn’t really remember who I was.
@Liza and @Pip...we have Alzheimer's in common! Liza, my mom died last year from complications of Alzheimer's. I would not wish it on anyone. It was so difficult to be with her and she had no clue who we were. She changed our diapers, bathed us, sang to us, listened to our joys and sorrows from babies to adulthood, and for her to end this way not even knowing us or herself (or know if we were really helping her properly) was just...there are no words. Sadly, the World Health Organization has now indicated that Alzheimer's is a leading cause of death. I can only hope for a treatment that can reduce some of the devastating outcomes for persons with the disorder and for family members. Hugs to both of you!

Carol, thanks. Dementia and Alzheimers are horrible diseases.

My mother’s case is likely a bit different in that, although she has dementia, she is actually taking her time dying of metastatic cancer. She went into palliative care towards the end of Mar and was not expected to be alive by Easter. That was over 3 months ago. Her doctor recently told my brother and SIL that she has exceeded everyone’s expectations so they have absolutely no idea of how long she has left. She always was very headstrong and stubborn. wink

Here in Canada, palliative care is only covered for 3 months so now she has to be moved to some kind of long term care facility, and the move will not help her dementia at all (it will make her worse).

Hi Liza, we have the same palliative care situation here in the U.S. Persons diagnosed with a terminal illness are at 'end of life' are in palliative care for 3 months. If they live longer, they are transferred to LTC. It killed us when I worked in hospice (an in-hospice hospital unit), when someone had to be transferred out. This type of care really differs from general long-term care facilities. I am so sorry to hear what you, your family and your mom are going through. My mom was headstrong and stubborn as well. I first realized she had dementia in January 2020 at the start of the pandemic. She was living with my sister and her family. We finally had to admit her to LTC in March of 2021 and she died last January (2022). It was so difficult. Please know that you and your family are in my healing intentions.
Liza, I'm so sorry to hear about your parents. Losing your dad that young is tragic, and dementia is a long slow tragedy in itself. I'm currently helping my mom navigate Alzheimer's and wish there were more I could do for her.
+18 votes
While I was in the nursing home my daughter told me about a phone call she had received because I had not answered an email in my computer at home.  It was a request from a high school junior asking me if I had any more information about a local poet. [[Cramer-705|Nellie Ruth Cramer]]  I gave my daughter several recollections and didn't think much more about it.   When I got home I found out the email was from a local student who was doing a report on her choice from several local authors listed.  By then it was too late to give more information because of the time line.  I also discovered the student was from a family who lived about 5 miles from me.  I had had a son and daughter in my 4-H club for a couple of years.  They were out of my area enough so I did not follow their activities after that, just aware of them.  The mother of the student was a much younger sister of my 4-Hers.  That's how they contacted me.  But the interesting
connection is the school project was to write about local
authors and she had picked one from my area, who was distantly related to me, had self published a book of poems, was buried in the local cemetery, and I had written a profile for in wikitree.  She used my profile to base her report on and used the very skimpy biography but expanded her report from the SOURCES I had included.  Her mother had
recognized the connection from working on the alumni list
of attendees at our alumni banquet and introduced herself to me at the time I arrived and thanked me.  After the banquet closed she approached me with daughter in tow,
introduced us and I received a profuse thank you.  The daughter had been working at the banquet as a waitress.
She reported she received a grade of 95 on her report and a 100 on a three minute video she had made and presented.  She was very pleased with them and me.  In our conversation I discovered that another local author, who had self published a history of our local small community village and area, had also been on the list.  He had used my wikitree profile story of my grandfather's brother in his book. [[Maltby-1979|Warren Maltby]]   So you never know how your contributions may be expanded way beyond your horizons.
Keep up all of your contributions.
by Beulah Cramer G2G6 Pilot (572k points)
edited by Beulah Cramer

Thanks for sharing that, cousin! (18th cousin)heart

Hi Beaulah, how great that your contribution helped a young student garner a 95% on her report on a local author. Isn't it great how WikiTree (and you) are gifts and connections that keep on giving and growing? What a wonderful and heart warming post! Thank you and a big HUG!
Thank you.  I felt the hug, too.
Just goes to show what a very small world we live in, Beulah. How wonderful that your WIkiTree profile of Nellie would make such an impact. Good for you!
Wow, Beulah! Way to go! It isn't terribly often that we get to see that clearly the impact our work has.
Beulah, That is such a great story of WT love!
+18 votes

Good Morning!  Let me see now.......last week while messing around on the computer I noticed an Ancestry hint regarding my first wife's (Janet) great grandmother and upon studying the tree noticed a possible female (Eva) relation to my present wife (Kathy).......further investigation immediately identified Eva's father as Kenneth (known relation of Kathy)......several hours of up, down and all around produced......Kathy's mother's 2nd cousin (Eva, also a step sister due to a second marriage of first cousins) married Earl, first cousin of Janet's father (got all that?)......I wouldn't touch that situation with a ten foot pole, unless I am a risky person.......I am a risky person. crying

by John Thompson G2G6 Pilot (357k points)
If you knew all that going in, you are a braver man than I. I did connect my paternal grandma's family line to my mom's family line back in early 1700's. Somewhere last week my cc7 popped, I'm guessing that connection had something to do with it.

John, I got lost!  So is your 2nd wife your cousin?  You are my 17th cousin, and my wife is also my 17th cousin!  devil

Kevin, shall we say there has been friction, in the distant past, between Janet and Kathy, however, the children of our blended family are now older than when all their parents first came together.  So far Janet and Kathy are not related, but due to our previous generations activities, 600 miles away in Montana, our children will become more related than they already are. smiley

David, to clarify (confuse?) the situation Kathy is actually my 3rd and 4th wife, as well as, 12th cousin 4 times removed out of 218 common ancestors and you, your wife, Kathy and I are all cousins with a common ancestor Beke-10 (did I get it all correct and can I breathe again?).......only on WikiTree!  devildevil

Gee, John, sounds too close to so many of my own families! surprise

Pip......and there's more. laugh

Nooooo!!!!!!!
+18 votes

Greetings from Rochester, Minnesota USA!

Current Temp: 67°F (19°C) with no air quality alerts. 

Number of Summer Days Left: 30 

WikiTree: I will have to take a hiatus from genealogy projects and research since I'll be getting ready for nursing school. I have to chat with all project coordinators about my schedule for the next few months. In the meantime, my tree is open for editing and adding. 

Clinical Life: The shifts are calmer and easier after I practiced cognitive redirection and patience with the residents. I'll be taking some off soon after Tuesday. 

Health: The only thing I need to worry about: Body Mass Index. The fat levels are starting to go down. I'm considering going back to a meatless approach to slim off the fat and gain plant based protein. I'm eating more salads and I feel so much better without the mochas! I'm wearing compression stockings which reduces the pain in my legs.

Nursing School: I got my financial aid package which includes a scholarship and other stuff. I finally organized my school email for the academic year! 

To all of you who participated in the Connect a Thon: pat yourselves on the back!  95,575 is pretty amazing!

by Eileen Robinson G2G6 Pilot (207k points)

Hi Cousin Eileen!  I am losing the battle on my weight loss goal of reaching 160 by the end of July!  I can't break 164 and just gained 2 lbs! angry  I'm going to have to fast for a couple days!

Congratulations on your perseverance on your goals.  I am
so glad you earned some scholarship money for your efforts.
I foresee more coming in the future if the donors know their business.  Keep up the good work.
Hi Eileen! Congratulations on the scholarship AND the reduction in fat levels. Keep us apprised of your nursing school experiences!
WikiTree will be here whenever you have more time and bandwidth to focus on it. Good luck in your school prep, we are all cheering you on!!
Hi Eileen,

Give yourself little breaks during school. You will definitely need them as you work on your nursing school plan. I still remember the stress of nursing school, but it got me where I needed to be and I practiced for 40+ years before retiring. Keep your goals in mind on those hard days.

 Hope you will check in and let us know how you are doing.
+19 votes
Good morning. I’m fairly new to WikiTree but fascinated with the collaborative community.

Sitting at the car repair shop (and reading this thread) this morning after all the lights lit up on my car during a trip home to Northwest FL from Birmingham yesterday.

I didn’t join the connect a thon but have spent the last month manually filling in my tree based upon documents my dad left behind and with the benefits of this collaborative tree I have a CC7 of 1798.

So … hello from Florida
by Doug McCown G2G6 Mach 1 (15.6k points)

Welcome to the chat DC!  Thanks for sharing!wink

You're right DC, the collaborative community is just wonderful!
Welcome to WikiTree. Take your time as you navigate the site and learn something new each day. My tip of the day is the fabulous WikiTree videos on Youtube are most helpful and my second tip is to join a project or two for collegiality.
Thanks. I’ve seen some YouTube videos and joined 1776 project. I’ve already experienced some of the positive collaboration.
+17 votes

Working on my MFA in Creative Writing. In two classes this semester, many more classes to go, but I feel like I'm learning so much. I've got several books in the works simultaneously and I'm not sure if I'll ever publish one of them, but they're there. They're there...

Looking for freelance work as an editor or a ghostwriter is rough in NYC, let me tell you. Everyone is interested until you mention the fact it isn't for free.

Genealogically speaking, I've been working more on my spouse's tree and my own, but I'm getting to the point where I won't be able to do much more without more records being released or going on location - and I'm not going to haul my three year old on a flight for the sake of doing research on our families. So this might mean my research is stalled for several years, and that's okay.

Wishing everyone the best on their journeys, whether it be genealogical or otherwise.

by G. Borrero G2G6 Pilot (126k points)
Yep, as soon as someone says, "It isn't free," folks lose lots of interest. But how in the dickens do they expect people to live for goodness sakes?

Keep us posted on your progress in your MFA, G.
+15 votes

Hi from southern Ontario,

Chez moi/at home: what's happening here? Weather has been cooler and less humid which is a good thing, first because we don’t have AC, and second because when it’s very humid, the fridge drain pan overflows and leaks onto the floor making us think we need to replace the fridge. And panicking about the new floor getting soaked. 

We had it happen many years ago with a previous fridge but had forgotten about it. of course, having grandkids here who have the fridge open for longer than necessary as they peruse the contents adds to the humidity levels in the fridge. 

We were away at our friends’ cottage on Lake Erie last weekend, came home Monday morning, so I only had part of Friday available for the Connect-a-thon, there is no internet at the cottage. And I will be away in August while the WikiTree games are happening. We went to the local library book sale while we were away and came back with several reusable grocery bags filled with books, including 2 excellent but huge and heavy books about the history of Ontario, starting back in the late 1700s. 

WikiTree and family history: I’m done with the Babcocks! Hooray, I added connections for 2 branches with family buried at Alton, to their ancestors from various places in the north-eastern U.S. who settled to the east of Kingston, Ontario in the late 1700s. They are an incredibly complicated family. With 2 David Babcocks who both arrived in the same place and at the same time period, who have been conflated multiple times, the family line I was working on had of course huge families but to simplify it slightly did give several of their sons uncommon first names. The rest of it I will leave to the Babcock Name Study people. 

What else: my new doctor is being very thorough, I have had an ECG, a stress test, 2 echocardiograms, wore a Holter gizmo for 3 days. which all came back normal. 

They seem to think I have some sort of intermittent bradycardia, when my heart/pulse rate is way too slow at 56 beats per minute, meaning lack of oxygen causing dizziness, fatigue and memory issues. I have had problems remembering tasks on my to do list but attributed it to a lot of stress with family and other issues that have been happening since the spring. I have wondered whether my trip on the patio several weeks back was caused by dizziness. And apparently, I now have high blood pressure when for most of my adult life there was a concern that my blood pressure was too low, down to 80/55 at times. So as of yesterday, I’m on high blood pressure drugs. 

I’m now waiting for multiple blood work and other test results and I’m sure there will be other things to come. And Yes everything is covered by our provincial government health care. And as I am over 65 I only pay the dispensing fee for prescriptions, so it was $11.04 for my blood pressure meds. 

The fires in the British Columbia interior are not improving and as that is where we will be for half of our August vacation it is concerning, though most of the fires are north of where we will be. 

Other: there has been much conversation on G2G recently about AI, a highly respected Ontario horticultural guru and researcher has been experimenting with AI and gardening questions, the results AI knows nothing about horticulture and made some incredible and significant mistakes in providing answers to plant related questions. 

by M Ross G2G6 Pilot (749k points)

Hi M, It is good to know that they were able to rule out heart issues. The medication for hypertension might help with the dizziness. I am sorry to hear of these health problems. The cost of your medical care is astounding! Maybe I should move to Canada!

These Canadian fires are very problematical for so many. The entire world is on fire, albeit in different ways. The Florida Atlatic coast showed temperatures of 98.6! We are moving into fevered waters, which will destry coral reefs, which will destroy fish, which will destroy industries! We have all time high temps here in Tucson and Phoenix!

I know next to nothing about AI, but what I have head does seem concerning. I heard that some movie moguls are able to use AI to copy voices (probably like Tom Hanks) so that they can manipulate the sound to mimic him if there are future Toy Story movies. I also hear that Robert Downey Jr....what's the word...copyrighted (?) his voice so that if AI is used he can sue. Pretty soon we will all be obsolete, even moguls!

I posted a G2G about an NEHGS Seminar (posted below) that you might be interested in. The problem is that it is not free:

Online Seminar

Researching Atlantic Canadian Ancestors

Wednesdays, August 2, 9, 16, 23, & 30 6:00–7:30 p.m. (ET)

Presented by David Allen Lambert, Judith Lucey, Rhonda R. McClure, and Melanie McComb

Cost: $125

Thanks Carol for your concerns about my health. Our health care isn't free, paid for from taxes. But it does mean no one goes without health care.

You could move here, it would probably have to come under family reunification status, shall I adopt you?

Though you would have to get used to winter again!

One provincial government Alberta keeps talking about changing to a more US style system, the relatively new premier is to be polite ' a total fool".

Even if the residents of the province agreed, there is a Canada Health Act which as far as I understand it does not allow opting out.

Not to worry about the NEHGS Seminar, none of the Canadian people I research lived east of Ontario.
M, I avoided our local Library book sale as well as the AAUW one for that very reason. I would have come home with tons of books (with no where to put them except in a stack in the garage where I'd for get them).
@M...It would be great if you adopted me. I would get first hand training in navigating WikiTree 'apps', go on great vacays with you, and we could share an office. The 'getting used to winter again' is a problem, though.

I would NOT turn to a U.S style as we have way to many people without access to even basic health care. BTW...I think it was Kiefer Sutherland's maternal grandparent who began the health care system in Canada. Correct me if I am wrong; however, years ago there was a talk show with him and/or his dad, who mentioned this.

You take good care of yourself!
Yes Kiefer Sutherland's maternal grandfather was Tommy Douglas founder of what became North America's first single-payer, universal health care program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

When my family emigrated to Canada, Saskatchewan was the only province with universal health care. I think it started in Ontario in the early 1970s.
Hi M, Thank for this feedback. It's good to know my brain isn't getting too feeble for forgetful in my old age!
+14 votes

Expensive Summer! (all in one week)

Where do I start?

1. My Dewalt battery powered lawn mower went into some tall grass and stalled.  Never restarted!  Changed batteries, and it still wouldn't start.  Its in the repair shop.  YouTube shows the Dewalt Lawn mowers have a plastic pully that the belt can easily break or melt.  A sudden stop could do that, so they say!

2. I ordered a Titan 3D massage chair from The Home Depot, 60% off, FREE shipping! Couldn't resist.  It arrived by semi truck.  Had to tear the railing off the front porch to get it in the door!  Its Big!  Got it all hooked up and it worked great for 5 minutes!  Now only the foot massager works!  I called Titan, they told me the nearest repair service is in Chicago, and they are not willing to send a tech to Bloomington to fix it!  

They called back and told me to return it to my local Home Depot (the one I work at)!  I called them back and pleaded with them to send me a module or chip or motherboard or whatever so I could fix it myself.  Here is a picture of the chair, and the Dewalt lawn mower is next to the left trailer wheel!   Well, after discussing it over, they email me and said they would send a new motherboard and instructions how to install it!

BUT THAT's NOT ALL!  It get's worse!angry

3.Yesterday, the Central Air Conditioner died (Trane 2006 - 2023) Rest in Peace!  They are coming today, they might be outside now as I type this, to install a new one!  

4. Then, both my wife's and my smart phones have been getting dumber every day, not charging and calling people all on their own and getter super hot.  The two new phones arrived yesterday..."How much did these cost?" I asked my wife.  HOLY #@%&##!! I replied

I'm going to have to get a second mortgage!crying

Bonus picture: Here are the guys installing the new unit!  Only took about an hour and a half!  I lettered several of their work vans!  I took a picture to see how the lettering was holding up!  Still looks good all these years later! 

Sung to the Tune of American Pie by Don Mclean

Bye Bye Trane Air conditionaye

Set you on the street for the old junk man guy

The Grayco boys said, "I shouldn't cry

This one will last way past the day that you die"!

UPDATE:  THE HOUSE IS 85 F!!!! WE ARE MELTING. The new AC Worked great for a couple of hours!  We called, they now think the coils need replacing!

Now it will be mid week to get this new problem fixed!

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.8m points)
edited by David Draper
It’s only money.

Everytime I think "it only money!" I get in the chair and get a foot massage!  It hurts like H--l, but feels so good I forget about all the other stuff, for a little while!wink

“It’s only money” and “While it’s out” (aka: “Wallet’s out”) are the words that come to me at the auto repair shop. $300 later and I’m on my way.
It's only green paper til you spend it--then it's$$$
So sorry about all the expenses! Hopefully the AC is back up and running soon, we would be in a bad situation here if that went out. Our unit is not in fighting-fit shape, we often have to "drive" the ac, because the condensation pipe freezes up so we have to turn it off to defrost. Annoying.
David, when we knew that our AC needed replacing they (correctly) told us that both the inside and outside units would need replacement. Glad we did that all in a couple of visits. (Took two of those).

I'd be pulling my hair out and throwing things, if that any things went down at once.
+15 votes

Hails and horns, Wikipeeps!

Had a lot going on the last two weeks so let's get started!

First up, I have a blog about how I randomly found a Ferraiolo in Utica of all places: https://allroadhaverhill.blogspot.com/2023/07/52-ancestors-week-28-random.html

I have another blog about coincidences in birthdays: https://allroadhaverhill.blogspot.com/2023/07/52-ancestors-week-29-birthdays.html

Not bad, right? Well, it was a tiring two weeks and the thon was awesome as always. Team Italy did very well as we got in 8th palce. Not bad. I tried to get at least 5th in my team but I got beaten by a couple people. Ah well. I have a very good reason for that!!

I tend to have more fun streaming than anything else. Was fun hanging out with Steven Greenwood, Mags, Betsy and the rest of the crew.

For the thon itself I mostly worked on my distant cousin Steve's tree. His paternal line is exclusively from the Campanian mountain town of Frigento. So, I basically ported his tree over here with his permission of course. Any excuse to beef up the category, right? 

I worked from his tree on Ancestry and here's what I found so far. But, first check it out here

I found two paths to him and I fully intend to go through Antenati and see what I can dig up there. Fortunately, he has most of the births, marriages and death images on his tree. I could just port them over or I could just link from Antenati.

He had some slight errors in the tree and I'm not sure how to bring it up to him. No one is perfect and he has said his tree isn't perfect. So, I am sure he knows about the errors. Still, it's a good tree. 

What took me so long initially was the fact there were broken links to Antenati and I had to fish out the correct ones so I could post the source. I did it a few times and I intend to go back and fill in the rest eventually.

I also talked to another distant cousin during the thon about Frigento and Steve's tree. She gave me some ideas and I told her all about Wikitree. Good things, I promise!

On the non genealogy front, I did some weeding with my dad this morning and now there's rain coming. There has been a lot of it. The garden is okay for the most part. The potatoes are having a field day and so are the cucumbers.

The rain did mess things up on the boat as we had sticks and stuff under the rudders. All that needs to be cleared out. We also somehow got fishing line under there too. How did that get there?! So weird.

But, those'll get cleaned up to be sure. I hope everyone has a great weekend!

by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (775k points)
Hey Chris! Great job on the Thon and thanks for following up on Tony Benedetto! I loved his work with Lady Gaga!

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Bennett
Thanks, Carol! =D Gonna take a lot of work to get his tree in working order.
@Cousin Chris...Yes, it does need some work. I think some of the info and photos could be drawn from Wikipedia. Thanks!
Congrats on your team finish! We really get some impressive work done on thons. And the hangouts really MAKE the experience so thank you for sacrificing your add-numbers to keep us entertained and motivated!
@ Carol: Indeed. And we have Frank checking stuff out on FS. Ummm you don’t want to see the mess over there. *does sign of the cross*

@Erin: Thanks! I’m glad the streams keep you all entertained! Look for more streaming goodness soon at the Wikitree Games! And besides I managed to beat my spring score. By like 2. So, 124 profiles is still good.
Love both your blogs, Chris, and I'm glad to see that you are consistent with that. I'd lose something of my week if I didn't get to read a Chris blog. Something I always look forward to.
Glad you like the blogs, man. =D I like writing them. I was initially going to write about my mom's 40th birthday party but that was in 1989 and I don't remember the details.
+16 votes

Currently, it's 23˚ C and mostly cloudy in Fort Erie. The high today is predicted to be 25˚ C, and tonight's low is predicted to be 16˚ C.

The weekend before last, I took the light of my life and the delight of my eyes up to Toronto to put in her application to get her passport renewed. Her hips, knees, and ankles have been pretty sore over the past while (I really need to take her into the shop and get her suspension greased and adjusted), so she was using a couple of canes to walk. The security guards at the consulate started to get on our taxi driver's case, telling him, "You can't park here!" until they saw her struggling to get out of the car with her canes, and then they changed their tune completely and got her a wheelchair. So I'm much happier with the State Department now.

The light of my life and delight of my eyes is big on "found gardening": just nurturing and tending what comes up naturally, as opposed to mowing it down.

Found Gardening 1

I should have taken these photos weeks ago, when various flowers were in their full glory, but hopefully those of you who actually know plants can see what's going on.

The plant in the middle of the shot is what I call "standy-uppy purple flowers". They're more brown now, and the tops have been (ahem) mown. They keep coming back every spring, which is good, but they don't take well to being mown, so the light of my life and the delight of my eyes plans to dig up at least some of them and transplant them somewhere where they'll be safe from the predations of mowers. Possibly even into the Dr. Jeffrey, Scientist Memorial Garden.

In the upper right is an example of what I call daisies, and probably aren't really daisies. But they're pretty, so we'd like to transplant them somewhere safe, too.

On the right side and in my shadow on the bottom left are a couple of examples of plantains. They're familiar to me from B.C., but I've always considered them weeds. It turns out that they're not only edible, but particularly nutritious, so the plan is to try transplanting some into railing planters around the back porch to see if they can survive a) being transplanted, and b) growing in dirt which isn't just a skiff of topsoil over impenetrable clay.

In the shadow of the garage in the background are pink (in the upper left) and purple (upper middle to right) flowers which we also want to preserve. The purple ones are particularly sneaky, because until they start to flower, the stems just look like grass. Fortunately, the light of my life and the delight of my eyes got a little behind in weeding this year, so they survived long enough for us to see them.

On the genealogy front, I managed to make it down the
Unconnected profiles in Europe page as far as Scotland. I think I have all the Geman Landes and Irish counties added now, and I've added some (not all) Scottish counties. Portugal was also a lot of work, because so many unconnected Portuguese branches are in the top 100, so I had to keep the Largest Unconnected Branches page open and update both pages as I was working.

On the space for my home church, Kathryn has been adding and connecting still more profiles. I started at the top of the list with Robert Lennie, and worked up a narrative biography, adding as many sources as I could dig up. (Kathryn had already added a bunch.) Now, it almost feels like he's been sourced thoroughly enough that somebody could write a book on him, although we still need to nail down the other churches where he pastored, and what dates he was at each. In fact, it's becoming clear that, in order to do a thorough job on each pastor, we're going to have to contact a bunch of other churches, and probably create categories and free-space profiles for them.

I plan to work my way all through the list. Eventually. If I live long enough.

On the Unconnected Canadian Politicians page, as we run low on provincial politicians, I'm trying to find or create profiles for at least three unconnected mayors of Ottawa, the provincial and territorial capitals, and the 14 next largest cities in Canada. (I'm also listing former federal Ministers of Health, who I added during the pandemic in homage to all those who work to try to keep the public safe and healthy. But those don't seem to be attractive targets for connectors, so I don't have to restock that list very often.)

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (687k points)

Thank you, Beulah. I looked up Bird's foot trefoil on Wikipedia, and got the article for Lotus corniculatus. The pictures match exactly: not just the blossoms, but the leaves and general structure of the plant, too. Thank you.

One of the common names for it is "eggs and bacon". That appeals to my sense of quirk, so I might just go with that.

M, the light of my life and the delight of my eyes has this odd quirk of thinking that we shouldn't walk all over things we're planning to eat. Go figure. So we're not going to leave the plaintain (Plantago major) in the places where we need to walk, but she does appreciate knowing that it's happy with the terrible soil we have here. I was digging up the grass to make a flat spot for another raised bed, and a fairly big patch of plantain was right in the middle of the space, so I dug around it, and she transplanted it into a pot, but just used the existing dirt. We'll see if it survives the shock.

The "standy-uppy purple flowers" in the first photo don't quite match the photo of creeping charlie (
Glechoma hederacea). Creeping charlie, like most flowers, has one layer of petals. The "standy-uppy purple flowers" have maybe six to a dozen layers of petals stacked up. They're quite different from any other blossom I've ever seen, which is part of the reason why I'm interested in setting them apart into a designated garden area so they can show off their full spendour. The leaves are similar to creeping charlie, though, so they may well be related.

The light of my life and the delight of my eyes has been interested in identifying and cultivating lamb's quarters (
Chenopodium album, or, as she refers to it, wild spinach). But she's being very careful about it, because she has heard that there is something else that resembles it, but isn't edible. And, for some reason, she doesn't want to poison me.

M, you're also spot on with identifying black medick (Medicago lupulina). I was very interested to learn that it is, in fact, closely related to clover. (And was amazed to learn just how many species of clover there are. I just thought clover just came in white and purple, but Wikipedia lists what must be a couple of hundred species.) One of the common names for it is "noneshuch", which triggered a memory for me, and I eventually found the article for the Nonsuch: the first ship of what was to become the Hudson's Bay Company. I was about 10 when the replica was built.

Interesting that the ship dates from 1650.

Nonsuch is the name of a traditional dance and tune recorded  in The Dancing Master. The book was first published in  1651 https://youtu.be/1KJSx7e4Rdw The dance is usually said to be named after  ' Nonsuch' palace. This was originally a Royal Hunting Lodge. You can imagine that before the civil war,  dancing  and masques were probably part of the evening's entertainment. Playford was a Royalist but the publication of the Dancing Master took place 2 years after Charle's execution The work is thought to be a way of preserving the dances but also a bit of Royalist propaganda . Digging a bit deeper I found this paper (Jstor)which mentions the title of  a tract also  published in 1651

'Gerbier, B.(?), The Non-Such Charles his Character , 1651.'

Maybe the ship's name carried more meaning than the dictionary definition.

Yes there are hundred's of clovers, not sure if I have mentioned it before, you can buy "micro clover' seeds from various suppliers, as a substitute for lawn grass, it stays quite short, so very little mowing is required,  does not need any fertilizer,  likes poor compacted soil, very drought tolerant.

The original micro clover came from Denmark, and was bred to have less flowers, because so many people in Denmark seemed to be concerned about bee stings. It seems to be best in a mixed 'lawn' with other grasses such as Fescues.

Some of the newer micro-clovers get taller than the original, which means more mowing, as much as 4 times a year!

I actually bought white clover seed a few years ago. (The gardening centre wouldn't sell me purple clover seed, because it grows tall enough to breach the town bylaw on the maximum height before you have to mow: 45 cm/18".) I liked the thought of free fertiliser, the clover doesn't seem to mind being mown, and the blossoms are pretty. I may just try to collect the seeds from the black medick/nonesuch, and see if I can spread them around a little more. I'd really like to get some kind of ground cover that's self-limiting in height for our ditch, because achieving the look of that amazing display in our neighbourhood is something the light of my life and the delight of my eyes simply doesn't have time for, and anything I touch tends to die.

And, with barely more than a week to go, I have finally gotten around to posting the "beginning of the month" reports for the surnames I'm supposed to be working on this month: Woods, Waddell, and Rucks. I plan to post the "beginning of the month" reports for next month in mid-September, and eventually plan to publish the monthly reports in the following year, just to keep things interesting. wink

The yellow flowers in Greg's first comment are called Käringtand in Swedish. It literally translates to "old woman's tooth". laugh

Greg, I remember a wild lawn flowering plant that my mother referred to as "butter and eggs".  It resembled a small snapdragon.  If you pinched on the sides of the flower it's jaws opened out like a mouth.  I baby sat two small children one summer and they had me make the flowers "talk" to them endlessly for entertainment.

Thank you for that story Beulah. It gave us a good laugh.

+16 votes
Hello, from overcast Everett, Washington. I logged into the Friday Night Bingo YouTube broadcast but gave up because I couldn't find a way to hear anything. Volume on computer is on; I logged back in through YouTube but still nothing. So I bowed out and came over here to you folks.

Pip, I am glad to hear the shoulder is stronger. Carol, I am glad to hear the steroids are working. All of us need a little good news about strength and healing. I myself could use some cognitive redirection (whatever it is, it sounds like it could help with the brain fog I have) and patience.

Tomorrow is my brick walls class. I decided not to get a new laptop. I confirmed my WikiTree password (forgot some letters were upper case) and will also try to find what my FamilySearch username and password are. Then I can log into the laptop at the Sno-Isle Genealogical Society library.

I was going through the watchlist, trying to knock off some 800 profiles so that it will come down under 5000, when I found an African-American family with many children. The parents are buried in the same cemetery as my own parents. So that is a project that I will engage in with renewed enthusiasm.

Our Toastmasters club is down to 6 people. I am now Treasurer (a position I didn't want to be in, but I was the only one who could). We six are debating the club's future. We all like each other, we all like public speaking, but we really need more members.

I enjoyed the Thon very much and contributed 134, a record for me. Of all the WikiTree activities, I enjoy connecting the most. I gave up on the 15 for 15 Challenge because I got way behind on some of the monthly goals.

I am on the trail of Mukilteo's unknown soldier, who is in the Pioneer Cemetery. I gave a speech for Toastmasters on Wednesday about who I think it may be. There are no death/burial records in Snohomish County, however, before 1891. Nor do I have specific proof that William McCallister served in the military, although his son and brother did in the 1850s/1860s in southern Oregon. The next step is to write to some organizations that may have info.

Yesterday I also worked on the pile of fabric and made several scrappy blocks for future quilts. It's a long time between sessions where I can get free batting, but having a stash of blocks is a step to getting the chaos under control.

You all keep up the good work as best you can. Blessings to all.
by Margaret Summitt G2G6 Pilot (324k points)
I like connecting as well. There's just something magic when you find that one profile that links to the tree (or makes a new closer connection). Don't give up on the 15 for 15, there are plenty of missions you can do still. I am working on my 30 for 15 which will undoubtedly take me longer but I want to see what I can finish. I've been collecting as I go doing other work, not specifically working that (like I got all 45 "died young" profiles while I was working Appalachian Cemeteries).
Margaret, one of these days I need to get with you about preserving old quilts. We have two, my wife one, and me one. Mine is one that was made by my g-grandmother. My wife's is her grandmothers. Mine is a bit older, somewhere around 120 years old. I'm guessing.
Pip, number one tip, store the quilts in an old pillow case or wrapped in a sheet.  Do not store them in a plastic box or bag. The fumes damage the material.
Thanks for the tip, Beulah!
+15 votes

Hello from Switzerland.

Today we have a cool day not hitting 30 (or more) °C. But we can handle also hot days staying indoors where we can keep the rooms quite cool thanks to the Swiss quality insolation.

2 Months ago our youngest son and his wife came to Switzerland to stay and live here. He was for over 23 years living in and around Sydney NSW. Now he lives only 2 hrs by train or car from us. We visited Australia 7 times, a wonderful country, but we will not miss the 24 hours flight (one way) from Zurich to Sydney and back again.

This month I will be active for 6 months with WikiTree with over 5700 contributions and a CC7 of 1920. It is a great job to transfer my data from RootsMagic (474'000 people) into Wikitree because I check all and add missing sources or have to improve them. Most of the 'old' sources in my DB are without internet-links because I collected my data since more than 50 years. One of the things I really enjoy is linking profiles in WikiTree by adding 'missing generations' which I have in my database,

Thanks to RootsMagic I found a relationship by a common ancestor with my Swiss wife (I am Dutch). She is my 27th cousin, not even removed. Our common ancestor is Heinrich (Heinrich IX) der Schwarze, Herzog von Bayern. Well that is to prove, because I don't really feel any connection to these old European aristocrats.

So I am working with the big WikiTree-tree and hope I can continue to contribute at the level of about 1000 contributions a month.

Enjoy your day, I will have dinner right now.

by Klaas Jansen G2G6 Mach 4 (44.7k points)
So glad your son is so much closer! Long travels are so weary-ing. 2 hours will seem a hop/skip/jump by comparison!
Klaas, you have made some real progress getting your family into WIkiTree. I don't think I was anywhere near 5700 people my first six months. Good for you.

My wife is also kin to me, 11 cousins. Our common ancestor goes back to the late 1500s.
+14 votes
Happy Friday Pip and Chatterers!

I'll get the weather out of way first: Hot! We had 109F a couple of days and then we cooled off to 106F. I am not sure about today but tomorrow it should feel like Fall at 97F. We try to go out, if we have to go out, as early as possible in the day and be back home also as early as possible.

Medically, we are holding our own. Hubby has another 23 radiation treatments to go so just about half way now.

On the genealogy front, I made it through the Thon last weekend. Friday and most of Saturday were a struggle but Sunday I clicked right along and ended up with 125 new profiles. That is less than usual for me but I was really happy to accomplish that much. Most of that was on the family of one of my son-in-laws where I had discovered  there were families missing children, parents, spouses. They provided a virtual goldmine to work on. Now, I will spend a few weeks trying to complete them as I am pushing the 5000 mark on my watchlist. I find it so difficult to orphan profiles!

I also have completed the USBlack Heritage PATH. That was actually rather easy since I had already done most of the requirements without knowing what they were. These days, I like "easy".

I hope everyone has a terrific weekend and upcoming week. See everyone next Friday!
by Virginia Fields G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Congrats on finishing your PATH. I need to choose which new learning journey I'd like to undertake this winter (summer/fall is just too busy for me with two small kids) but once we settle into a school routine and there are less outdoor activities I can cozy up to my laptop and engage in genealogy education.

Sending hugs for you and your husband on his radiation treatments.
Thank you, Erin for the congrats and for your hugs! Much appreciated.
Really, I do not know how you stand that heat, Ginny. We haven't broken 90° yet this year.

I am trying to get my CC7  up to 5000. I was rather disparing of that until I found some profiles I created long ago that needed attention in of themselves, but also adding to their descendants and in-laws. Especially their in-laws. Always gold mine, like you said.
+13 votes

On this day:

1773: The Society of Jesus is abolished

1831: The Belgian National Day is established

1948: Yusuf Islam, better known as Cat Stevens, is born. Happy Birthday!

by Jelena Eckstädt G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Hi Professor Jelena (as Pip likes to say). I will go with Cat Stevens today.

I do not think all the members of the Society of Jesus were abolished, though. They are now running Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin! The current Pope is also an SJ (a Jesuit)!
The German entry about the Jesuits says that they were restored in 1814. I know that Francis is a Jesuit.
After following a twisty path through my 20s, I finally graduated from Regis University, a Jesuit school in Denver, at age 38. I was never taught by a Jesuit brother, but had classes with several rowdy peace activist Dominican nuns. It was great that they made even us nerdy computer science students choose some religion and philosophy courses.

@Jelena I was 'teasing' (being sardonically humorous) in my response, Jelena. I know they were restored in 1814...they had to be for them to spread across the globe. And I have no doubts that you would know Francis is a Jesuit. I specifically mentioned Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin because I got my master's degree there. The Jesuits really taught critical thinking and were social activists, not unlike Pope Francis.

@Karen Lowe...not Catholic; however, I got a bachelor's from Mount Mary University (Notre Dame) nuns and the Master's at Marquette. It didn't make any difference if students were Catholics, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists or Martians, everyone had to take religion and philosophy classes. One of my favorites (and really difficult despite the title) was Images of God, Man and Woman in Contemporary Theater. It was taught by a Jesuit and incorporated plays, films, philosophy, theology, etc. with writers like Camus, Beckett, Pinter, Santayana, Brecht etc. The midterm was some 15 pages long with questions like 'If there is no god, then I am god' Explain; or 'Our nada, who aren't in nada, hallowed by thy nada' Discuss. My other most favorite class was Shakespeare! Three of each comedies, tragedies (naturally Lear, MacBeth & Othello) and histories.

Whoa, that sounds like quite the class! We read L'Étranger (Camus)and Les jeux sont fait (Sartre, but he would have fit in) in French class in high school. I struck out in college with a lame critical thinking course taught by an English teacher who spent at least 20% of the class reviewing grammar, having decided that adult students needed that more. 

I enjoyed Women in Spirituality but can't recall many of the women. Certainly Hildegard of Bingen and Anne Hutchinson.

Othello? What about poor Hamlet? Here's my favorite song about him. I enjoyed seeing Sir Ian McKellen as Lear in 2018. I was seated adjacent to the thrust stage, so he walked right past me several times.

@Karen First...I am SO jealous about seeing Sir Ian as Lear up close and personal. WOW. To die for.

Our professor didn't forget about poor Hamlet. We didn't read it, but at the time I was taking the class (ca. 1981) a VERY YOUNG Derek Jacobi performed Hamlet that was recorded by the BBC and shown on our Public Television. It was 'required watching.' I was gobsmacked by Jacobi's performance...wonderful. 

We didn't have Women in Sprituality per se, but one of the required texts was Merlin Stone's When God Was a Woman. Notre Dame nuns & Jesuits were fearless! I still have that book in my home library.

Anne Hutchinson is a 10th cousin/10xr, MRCA Elizabeth (Bathonia) Weylond. You can check your relationship here:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marbury-2

I thought we had Hildegard (What A Woman!!!) on WikiTree, but I cannot find her. I think we were very lucky to have these readings and classes. But I am still jealous about Sir Ian (snark, snark)...

+14 votes

Pip, I'm glad your shoulder is getting better smiley, but so sad sadcrying about the loss of the Soda Shop. I'm sure every generation says it, (when did we become our parents | grandparents?) but it's a shame that History has to be lost in the name of progress.

I have no idea what the weather looks like out there. I lost 2 weeks along the way somewhere which is why everyone thought I was going to be a 1 & done in the chat after the first week. That was either the 23 or 30 of June. the 23 was my 1st day on the sate, if I found you that early.

But I chatted the weekend of 30JUN - 3JUL the weekend I did my 1st SSS (47). Things were much more hectic & less talking on the fly for the Weekend Chat 8-10JUL before the SSS (117). Then last weekend I did the Thon (167) & spoke not at all (Have you seen the Thon selfie of my set-up?).

I was so frazzled about what day it was that I was frantically looking for the Weekend Chat for this weekend. I hadn't put the tag on my followed list yet because: a) Newbe b) time c) frazzled, so I was about to get really frustrated with my lac of results; until I noticed that it was Thursday & not Friday.

During the Thon, I worked on my line as well because they are quite prolific & I knew I had a list of plenty to be able to use without running out. I just ran the parents of each of my married couples & made profiles. While I was sifting through this data, I noticed several patterns emerging; some still are. The most prevalent pattern I encountered was the sheer number of the male members of my family that had an association to the CSA. 

So that became a Project; to go through all my male relatives of that generation & make a list of what their association was & find the documentation. So far I have only gone through the 2 paternal lines of my g-gg-gggrandparents & ended up with over 2 full Platoons before I ran into Joseph L. F. Chandler; he died 12 Sep 1864 at PLPOW [Space:Point_Lookout_Civil_War_Prison].

What specifically set me off on the line I have been following is that there is an image on his Memorial site at FAG as well as this:

Enlistment:
- Enlisted on Sep 23 1861 as Private

Mustering information:
- Enlisted into I Company, 3rd Infantry (Georgia) on Sep 23 1861
- Died while serving in 3rd Infantry (Georgia) on Sep 12 1864 at Point Lookout, MD

Listed as:
- POW on Jul 21 1863 at Chester Gap, VA

Then I noticed the image listing his name & the name of the other it listed 35 other names on the image of the plaque and it obviously had more names that were out of frame.

Silly me, my first thought is "Names I have NAMES!!! Let me go spread the joyus news!" I probably should have looked to see why there was a discrepancy between his POW status location & the location of his death. When I just randomly asked the WT if anyone had ever heard of PLPOW. I had by then corrected my error in assuming that the cemetery in MD was the battlefield of Chester Gap. While Chester Gap was important in the CSA's advance/retreat & was where Joseph L. F. Chandler was captured, that's another story.

When I first asked about the possibility of someone close by if it would be possible for someone to go over there to get pictures. I hadn't learned of PLPOW yet, but Harris-47557 was gracious enough to take me up on the request. Then Kreutzer-114 tells me about the Point Lookout Civil War Prison.

I am now Manager of the former orphan Point Lookout Civil War Prison [[[Space:Point_Lookout_Civil_War_Prison|Point Lookout Civil War Prison]]] & in researching it ran into a group called Descendants of PLPOW [https://plpow.org/]. 

At this point, I am trying to figure out how to ethically upload son's VERY appreciated images to WikiTree. I have been to Cemetaries & commented on their "Do You Want to Join" page, so Pip might have already heard about this. This Project is on hold waiting for clarification on uploading.

On to another topic; "Have you met any Cousins?". Yes, I have because of another military cousin that was MIA in WWll & presumed. She is my Second Cousin & she's a Texas Girl. I contacted her to find the source of "The Last Goodbye" for William Francis Brunson to make another Memorial for a Fallen Soldier. Since that was the only picture I knew of him, I thought I'd track down the source & see if I could get approval for the use of the image. 

That was Monday, by Wednesday, she was contacting me through FAG letting me know about what the Bryan County Genealogy Library and Archives on FB [https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=Bryan%20County%20Genealogy%20Library%20and%20Archives] in honor of the release of the 1923 records due to the Copyright running out. 

Other than that, another SSS tonight so I better run & take a nap.

Bye 

by Living Brunson G2G6 Pilot (103k points)
I often mark my days by what work I am doing on WikiTree, it helps me keep my week straight. If it weren't for Friday night Bingo and the Weekend Chat I wouldn't know what day it was as it's summer so the kids aren't in school and my husband works a not-mon-fri job.

Pat, you have been doing some amazing detective work there, and the Military & War Project will certainly appreciate your efforts. Well done!

Thanks Pip! I appreciate you saying that. It's not real hard to go deep into all this. Sometimes the stories of the people we are researching just throw themselves at you & it's a matter of keeping ahead of & on top of the data before it overwhelmes you.

In looking back over my comment, I noticed a glaring omission. And I want to take the time to let everyone know that I was able to start my PLPOW Project because Tyler-1584 directed me to: Descendants of Point Lookout POW https://plpow.org/. Without his direction. my PLPOW Project would not be as rich in History. Thanks for the information & the link, Michael, I appreciate it!

+15 votes
Thanks for hosting chat this weekend! It sure was a great thon this past weekend my CC7 increased by 300+. Happy Dance!

Have a great Weekend!
by M. Meredith G2G6 Pilot (143k points)
Wow that's a great increase! Congrats.
That IS a great increase in your CC7 Margaret. I added about 144. so I was very pleased with that.

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