G2G: Lookup needed in 107th edition of Burke's Peerage

Question

Mosley, Charles, editor. Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes. Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003.

The Peerage - http://www.thepeerage.com/p13045.htm#i130448 - has both John & Lewis listed as sons of Robert de Clifford, citing the 107th edition of Burke's Peerage (p 1063; citation for parents Robert & Isabel is 107th, Vol 1, p 347). Richardson lists only Robert, Roger, and Thomas as sons of Robert & Isabel. Richardson says that Lewis de Clifford, husband of Eleanor de Mowbray, is the brother of Hugh (no mention of parents, & I couldn't find another reference to Hugh).

If you have a copy of/access to the 107th edition of Burke's Peerage, could you check that it lists

• John as the son of Robert de Clifford (b 1305) & his wife Isabel Berkeley, who were married June 1328? (And if it lists when he was born & who he married - that's be great to know too!)
• Lewis as a son of Robert (b 1305) & whether or not a mother or birth date is mentioned... and verify he's the Lewis who married Eleanor de Mowbray.
• Hugh? (Richardson says Lewis is the brother of Hugh de Clifford).

See Robert's profile for what I've found so far.

Thanks!

Comments

Hi! I'm still looking for help on this. Terry's answer was useful for the John Clifford it concerned, but it didn't answer my question about a John Clifford being the son of Robert de Clifford b 1305 (the John of Terry's answer "made proof of age in 1410-11"). The John I'm looking for would have been born decades earlier (guessing around 1340 or so).

Thanks!

P.S. added in case anyone wondered why I removed the "Best Answer" selection. Good info, but not what I was looking for.

Answer 1

 

 

From "The Complete Peerage"  Vol III, Pub 1910:

CLIFFORD  pg. 293
VII. 1391 or 1393.

7. John (de Clifford), Lord Clifford, Sheriff of  Westmorland, only s. and h., scarce 3 years old at his  father's death; made proof of his age (1410-11) 12 Hen. IV. He was sum. to Parl, from 21 Sep. 1411 to 26 Feb. 2420/1.(a) He took part in a great tournament at Carlisle between six English and six Scottish Knights, as also in the French war.
K.G. 3 May 1421. He m., between Aug. 1403 and Nov. 141 2, Elizabeth,
da. of the famous Sir Henry Percy ("Hotspur"), by Elizabeth, da. of Edmund (de Mortimer), Earl of March. He d. 13 Mar. 1421/2, being slain at the siege of Meaux, in France. His widow m., 2ndly (cont. 7 May 1426; lic. to m. whom she would, 20 July 1426; disp. after marr., 28 Nov. 1426), as his 1st wife, Ralph (Nevill), 2nd Earl of Westmorland, who d. 3 Nov. 1484. She d. 26 Oct. 1437.

I hope this helps.

Terry Welshans

 

Comments

Thanks Terry! I'll add a reference to that John's profile - http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Clifford-255 (he's son of Thomas & Elizabeth)

Cheers, Liz