G2G: Brickwall. No birth nor middle name information found

Question

Can anyone help. I have just adopted the profile of John F Reffell who married Clara Ann Chandler and died in March qtr 1963. Neither his birth record nor middle name can i find. thanks in advance for helping.

Edwin

Answer 1

Might this be his service record?

Name: John Reffell

Event Type: Military Service

Event Year Range: 1918-1921

Event Place: United Kingdom

Birthplace: West Africa

Birth Year: 1897

"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCWM-TMG : 5 December 2014), John Reffell, ; From "Merchant Navy Seamen1835-1941," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing BT 112-116, 119-120, series BT350, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

Comments

thanks. that will be him. where would his middle name F... be found?

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Anywhere.  It could be on his birth record, or he put it on his naval record, or it's on any record you turn up, really.

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It looks like his middle name might be Fowler - see https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4358707

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i agree and have updated the profile accordingly. with that i have done what i could for that profile. thanks everyone for getting the brickwall solved.

Answer 2

According to the 1939 register on Findmypast, John F Reffell is living at  37 Stuart Street, Cardiff, Glamorganshire with his wife Clara. John's birth year is given as 1901. I don't have access to Findmypast, but you can verify the above data by using the site, you just can't see the record unless you have an account. Having his birth year as 1901 may help. If someone has access to the 1939 register they may be able to provide more information

Wales

Comments

It's not about access to FindmyPast.  You have to prove that the person is deceased.

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Here is a free-to-view image of his entry in the 1939 register: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/16978966?h=d1c6ff

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is this not proof? "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCN-YCYF : 4 September 2014), John F Reffell, 1963; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales, General Register Office, Southport, England.

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Not the sort of proof they require.  They want an actual death certificate (well, a scan of one). What you have there is only the reference number that you would use to get one - and they cost 11GBP.

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thanks

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They already have the required proof that he is dead, that is why his entry is visible and not redacted in the image that I posted a link to.