G2G: Anyone know of aCharlotte Louise Hancock born London 13th Oct. 1880 please ?

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in Genealogy Help by Newt (200 points)

Did your Charlotte Louise (Louisa) marry a George Hildred?

Yes.   Some  kind people have given the  mother's name as Donavan  which does chime with an old birth certificate we Ince saw for a Donavan,

If you read all the comments, I have also given the volume and page number for the marriage of her parents.  You can look it up yourself on FreeBMD.

Charlotte's marriage to Hildred was 1st Quarter 1907; Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England; Volume 7A; page 1052 (you can also look that upon FreeBMD, or you could use the citation from FamilySearch).


Thank you. That is so helpful.

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There is a birth registration for Charlotte Louisa Hancock during the 4th quarter of 1880 in St. Olave Bermondsey, London, England.

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XJQ-XG1 : 1 October 2014), Charlotte Louisa Hancock, 1880; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, St. Olave Bermondsey, London, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

by Owl (216k points)

Marris may have been a traveller, or some such.  Seems he died in 1927.

MARRIS, JOHN  ALFRED   68  
GRO Reference: 1927  J Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 660

By the way .. the non-FreeBMD references are all from the GRO.   You need to register in order to search, but it is free unless you want to actually buy certificates.


Thank you. That is an excellent piece of advice and I'll get on the case. T

You have been most helpful and freed a new line of inquiry....the Donovan line ( could explain the family red hair !)

The records I have found spell it Donovan, and that she was born in Ireland.  But don't restrict yourself to that one spelling.  Some records may have one spelling in the original documents, but the transcriber may spell it how they see it, so be aware that it won't always be Donovan.

The same with Jane/ Jenny / Jeny -- that could be Janet, Jeanette, Jeanie, Jeannie, Jennie, or who knows how many other variations.   The census records should give you an approximate year of birth, but, again, don't restrict yourself to that as exact.  I have seen some people (males and females) who age very oddly in the10 years between one census and the next.  Some get younger, some get older, some  see-saw back and forth between older and younger.  I usually search at least 5 or 6 years either side of a birth year from a census, and have gone as much as 15 years.

Jane Donovan was baptised at 0 years old on the 8th February 1858, in Clonakilty, Cork, Ireland.  Record is here (it opens a pdf), you will need to sign in to see it.  It's not like registering as with the GRO, it just needs you to agree you're not a robot.

Her father was Thomas Donovan, and her mother was Mary Flahanan (or Flahavan (I don't see a v)).


It seems Jane wasn't always, or only, Jane Annie.  She also went by Jane Elizabeth - or someone thought she was Jane Elizabeth - as her death in 1923 was registered at Grimsby, Lincolnshire, under Jane Elizabeth Marris.

MARRIS, JANE  ELIZABETH   65  
GRO Reference: 1923  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 676

Find a Grave has her burial --

Find a Grave, database and images (www.findagrave.com/memorial/144288491/jane-annie-marris : accessed 30 April 2021), memorial page for Jane Annie "Jenny" Donovan Marris (Feb 1858–1923), {{FindAGrave|144288491}}, citing Scartho Road Cemetery, Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire Unitary Authority, Lincolnshire, England ; Maintained by Susanna Parrish (contributor 46929622).

Edited to update the Find a Grave citation.


It seems Jane and Edward Hancock may have been separated, as in the 1891 census she is listed as a widow, but he didn't die until 1901.

Charlotte seems to have been known also as "Lottie".  I have submitted birth information to the manager of her memorial on Find a Grave.  Her death was registered at Wirral, Cheshire, but she was buried in the same cemetery as her mother.  Charlotte Louise Hildred; 1st  Quarter 1970; Birth date: 13Oc1880; District: Wirral; Volume: 10a; Page: 2409

Find a Grave, database and images (www.findagrave.com/memorial/144288392/charlotte-louisa-hildred accessed 30 April 2021), memorial page for Charlotte Louisa "Lottie" Hancock Hildred (13 Oct 1880–1970), {{FindAGrave|144288392}}, citing Scartho Road Cemetery, Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire Unitary Authority, Lincolnshire, England ; Maintained by Susanna Parrish (contributor 46929622).

Edited to update the Find a grave citation.


She was known to the family as Lottie and died in Cheshire where she had moved to be looked after by her daughter, Edna.

It’s very interesting that she was buried in Grimsby but I suspect her late husband would be in the same cemetery. I note that her father died in the town too.

Thanks for your help.

Thomas Donovan and Mary Flahaven (this one is clearly a v)  were married on the 5th February 1856, Clonakilty, Cork & Ross (RC).  The priest used the Latinised version of their names, so they are recorded as Thomam Donovan and Mariam Flahaven.  Again, the image of the Parish register is a pdf.  Irish Genealogy


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