G2G: John Borrie abt. 1846 Canada need Canadian French New York genealogy help

Question

John Borrie was born about 1846 (estimated) death date unknown. Born in Canada. Married Mary Louise Bodway. Per son Michael Borrie’s marriage record. We need more sources and help with this French Canadian family’s genealogy. There must of been more kids born to them besides Michael? The name Borrie often is misspelled as Borie, Borry, etc. Any help would be appreciated. 

Thank you wikitree family

Son Michael Borrie’s #1.Obituary, #2. Obituary

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sorry, finding nothing for such a couple in Drouin, name variations abound as to which it truly was, Borry could be Barry, Baril....... or one of the numerous dit names that exist.  Bodway is definitely not French, so most likely to have been considerably mangled.  Beaudoin/Baudoin, Beaudain ..... are the possibilities that come to mind, but not certain.

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Thank you it’s so hard these name variations. However I can say he is my great great grandpa and my great grandmother his daughter Annette Estelle (Borrie) Trombly is my great grandma and she spoke Canadian French as her parents. The French is hard as the names get so mangled in records and documents.

Answer 1

Andrew if you look at the link to Michael's 1910 Census, just ahead of him on the page is an Ira Borry, same spelling of the surname, also listed as Canada/French origin, same immigration year of 1883.

It is entirely possible that is a sibling of Michael.

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Yep.. here is Ira's death record.

Ira Borry, born October 12, 1865 in Naperville (Napierville), Quebec. Napierville, as it happens, is a stones throw from Champlain, Vermont.

His parents are listed as John Borry and Laura Baudain.

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Ira may be this man. His parents are listed at his death as John Borry and Laura Baudain, so he could definitely be Michael's brother.

"Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XF2F-HVN : 4 November 2017), Ira Borry, 20 May 1951, Death; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 1,983,961.

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Interesting. It’s very probable. I’m wondering if there is anything in the newspapers maybe a mention of marriage or obituary but the spellings are really tough. Michael’s grave stone spells surname as “Borrie”

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Just found son Michael Borrie’s two obituaries. I added them to Michael’s profile. Still looking for his parents info

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Ira, Henry, and Noel's father is this guy. Maybe he's not Michael's father unless Michael is Noel?

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42219297/

Montpelier Evening Argus (Montpelier, Vermont), Monday, 23 Dec 1907, page 8

"John Borry, of Worcester, aged 68 years, died at 4 o'clock this morning. He had a shock two months ago and has been gradually failing. He has been unconscious for a day or two. He lived with Henry, his son, in the Wheeler Mill district. Noel and Ira Borry are his sons. The body will be taken tonight to Canada where he was born, for interment."

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Michael was born in St. Patrick, right? And Napierville comes up?

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_40260062
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_02401344 (blurry copy)

Marriage of Jean Baptiste Barré and Louise Beaudin October 11, 1858, at Saint-Patrice-de-Sherrington, Sherrington, Les Jardins-de-Napierville, Quebec, Canada 

1. Emerie (Henry) born June 29, 1860, baptized July 1: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_02401367
2. Isaïe born June 26, 1862, and baptized June 30: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_40260128/1289818
3. Anastase (male) born February 11, 1873, and baptized February 13: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_02410187?pid=8812733
4. Jean Baptiste born October 8, 1874, and baptized October 10: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_40260375/11934806
5. Joseph Noël born December 26, 1876, and baptized December 29: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_40260432/6522399

1861 census line 23: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1570/4108803_00624?pid=793995419

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This is very interesting. I wonder if Noel is a middle name being used. This family is probably related in some way if not directly. I wish some of these obits had mentioned something linking Michael Borrie to his parents. I’m going too look over this closer. Michael Borrie’s obit says he died age 86 so he was born about 1873, his gravestone says 1874 birth and name is Michael A. Borrie on engraving. Michael was born in Champlain, Clinton, New York. Although I think some census reports say Canada.

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https://gw.geneanet.org/paogau?n=barre&oc=1&p=jean+baptiste

https://gw.geneanet.org/guybautur?n=beaudin&oc=&p=francois

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I wish I could find them in 1881. If I were a guy named Anastase I might change to Michael in the US. But it makes no sense to omit him from his father's obituary.

If Emerie becomes Henry and Isaïe becomes Ira and Joseph Noël becomes Noel, it's not inconceivable that Anastase Barré becomes Michael A. Borrie.

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https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42234031/

Montpelier Morning Journal (Montpelier, Vermont)

Wednesday, 16 Apr 1913, page 8

"Mr. and Mrs. Michael Borry and family and Mrs. Agnes DuBuque
and children of Worcester Corner left yesterday for New York to live."

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Woop woop!

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42234220/

The Burlington Free Press (Burlington, Vermont)
28 Mar 1952, Fri, Page 2

Joseph N. Borry

MONTPELIER, March 27--Joseph Noel Borry, 75, retired laborer and resident of Montpelier for more than 50 years, died Wednesday afternoon at Heaton Hospital where he had been a patient for two months.

   Born in Canada on December 25, 1877, he was the son of John and Louise (Doudy) Borry. His early life was spent there and he was married in Champlain, N. Y., in 1899 to Miss Josephine Delphine Daniels. They came to Montpelier in 1900. Mrs. Borry died on July 20. 1920.

   Mrs. Borry is survived by eight children; Mrs. Earl (Anna) Fisher of Montpelier; Fred Borry of Comillus, N. Y.; Mrs. Delia Wilkins of Burlington; Miss Edith Borry and Eddie Borry of Montpelier; Mrs. Lucille Cano, Mrs. Blanche Remillard and Mrs. Florence Day, all of Barre.

   Also surviving are 17 grandchildren; three great - grandchildren; two brothers, Michael Borry of Morris, N. Y. and Peter Borry of Blackstone, Mass., as well as a number of nieces and nephews.

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I think Morris, N.Y., is Mooers, N.Y., from your obituary for Michael. You can see the 1913 move to New York mentions Michael Borry and family and Agnes Dubuque and children, and your obituary has Pliny Dubuque as a pallbearer for Michael.

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WOW!!! You found the link to the family brick wall lol

THANK YOU!!!

FAG Link here https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73771410/noel-joseph-borry

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YAY! I couldn't stop myself from starting profiles for John's presumed parents:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barr%C3%A9-321
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Simard-1315

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Yes please do so lol

thank you

 very much appreciated : )

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You can hook them to John if you think we've got it. Yay!

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I have my dna match to a public ancestry tree for Tomboycecolchestervt his tree is showing same basically he has Jean Baptiste (John) Borry married young Marie Louise Beaudin. The parents of a John Borry as Jean Baptist Borry and Marguerite Girard

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Can you access Ancestry records? The marriage at https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1091/d13p_40260062 in the middle of the right page says Jean Baptiste Barré and Charlotte Simard.

Sharing link: https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/18756990?h=59e7b6

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Yes just for a few weeks only USA records though lol

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I bet the middle initial A stands for Anastase. Michael A. Borrie died at age 86. The birthdate fits perfectly.

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I hooked them to John I believe this is there parents based on everything.

Thank you for helping

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Hi Christine 

Just a follow up as we have added the brothers with more sources still researching but wanted to say 

Thank you for all your help 

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You are so welcome. I'm so glad you have been able to push this line back!!

Answer 2

I would say that the spelling you have is probably the one that is inaccurate assuming he was actually french canadian. When french canadians immigrated to the states their names would be substantially altered.

I would suggest looking for the spelling Jean instead of John.

As for the last name, it does not sound french canadian at all. Perhaps Gaboury?

I searched for anything close to Jean Borrie/bory/borie/gaboury and nothing came up. Also looked for john but no luck.

Do you happen to have more information about where he was born or who his ancestors were?

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All I have is his son Michael Borrie’s  marriage record

Answer 3

Canada Border Crossing,Mary Louise Bodway born

Williamstown Ontario.Find Ancestry,com.

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Oh good job Wayne. It’s like pulling teeth finding any records. Thanks

Is there a link? I see the record the date of birth they have is abt. 1893 it should be a lot earlier but still looking

Answer 4

There's this girl Mary Budway from Bellechasse in 1851. It looks like her parents are Antone Budway and Solin? Audet? I'm struggling with the writing and totally striking out with PRDH. Can you read the mother's name since it looks more French? It looks like the enumerator speaks English so he's bungling the spelling.

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1061&h=1667249

"Canada Census, 1851," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWR7-DF4 : 3 August 2016), Mary Badway, Buckland,Standon and Ware, Bellechasse County, Canada East (Quebec), Canada; citing p. 5, line 4; Library and Archives Canada film number C_1115, Public Archives, Ontario.

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Beaudoin?

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I was wondering if Marie Louise might be this woman, but she was Marie Apolline Beaudoin who married Joseph Urbain Couture.Still, it gives us evidence that Beaudoin became Budway for at least one family.

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Beaudoin-Family-Tree-789

Answer 5

Oddly another border crossing from USA too Canada,shows

she left too see her sister,writing is bad but looks like sisters

Married name Mrs Stephan Broune.Shows Marie Louise is

Italian.I think her last name Bodway,is not her birth name.

Answer 6

Jean Baptiste Barry was born on April 8, 1835 in St-Isidore de La Prairie, Bas-Canada. His parents were Jean Baptiste Barry and Charlotte Simard.

He married Marie Louise Beaudin on October 11, 1858 in Saint-Patrice-de-Sherrington and together they had 10 children:

1. Emerie Barré
2. Isaie Barré - Henry Borry
3. Rose Anne Barré
4. Henry Barré - Ira Borry
5. Marie Rosianne Barré
6. Anastase Barré
7. Michael Borrie
8. Jean Baptiste Barré
9. Joseph Noël Barré - Noel Borry
10. Marie Rosalie Barré

He married Philomène Roy on August 26, 1884 in St-Cyprien de Napierville, Québec, Canada.

He died on December 23, 1907 in Lamoille, Vermont, United States. Jean Baptiste Barré was buried on December 26, 1907 in St-Cyprien de Napierville, Québec, Canada.

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• Thank You Christian

A special thank you to Christian Roy for researching the documents, analyzing the information and writing the biographies of Jean Baptiste Barré and Marie Louise Beaudin and children on Canadian side and on US side.

Answer 7

Have you checked if the Borrie surname has connections to the Netherlands with possible emigration to a french area ? For a lead see ...

https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/cornelia-wilhelmina-borrie-24-dy6809

Answer 8

Could this possibly be the person listed as Jean-Baptiste Barre (L15Q-639) in family search?  There are 14 sources listed for him.  His wife is listed as Louise Marie Beaudin.  His Birth year is a little off though.

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Yes, thank you!

Many more sources to verify and combine.