G2G: Seeking Italian birth certificate for Rose (Rosina) Ciano/Marciano, born ~1903–1906, emigrated circa 1918.

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I sorry I'm new to genealogy and I'm having a hard time getting past this one person

  • Approximate birth: 1903–1906 in Montefusco, Avellino, Campania, or possibly Lucca, Tuscany

  • Known parents (unverified): Ricco (Costanzo) Ciano and Jennie (Giannina) Gallio/Pini

  • U.S. connection: Settled in Taylor, Pennsylvania; married Anthony Marciano; died 1952

  • Variations to consider: Rose, Rosa, Rosina, Rosetta; Ciano, Ciani, Chiano, Siano; Gallio, Gallo, Pini

  • Records sought: Primary-source birth certificate only (atto di nascita), not user-submitted genealogical data

  • Goal: To verify her parentage and confirm identity with Italian civil records

  • Family Search ID: PQJD-69P (some of the info here is a little off)

WikiTree profile: Rose Ciano
in Genealogy Help by Newt (220 points)

2 Answers

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"Italia, Potenza, Potenza, Stato Civile (Tribunale), 1866-1910", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3G4-47HT : 18 June 2025), Rosa Ciano, 1903.  Matches the birthdate on the profile- that record not tied to a FamilySearch profile.

There are a couple more Rosa Ciano with slightly different birthdates on FamilySearch, including 2 in Avelino.  I don't see any for Lucca or Tuscany.

by Owl (617k points)

Thanks this helps! The only thing is that the parents name doesn't match her death certificate. I'm not sure if that's ok but on her death certificate it says her parents' names as Ricco Ciano and Jennie Gallio.

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I suggest broadening your search to earlier birth years.  I see that the 16 Feb 1903 date comes from the death certificate (image on her familysearch profile),but other evidence points to ~1898.

Her father's name appears to be Enrico or Ricco on the passenger list, death record, and obituary. It appears to be "Ernie" on the marriage license, which could be a mishearing of Enrico.  Her mother's name was inconsistent on records: Jouanas Careto (?) on the marriage license, Jennie Gallio on the death record.
The other clue is that her 1916 passenger list showed an uncle "Aniello Vino", who lived on Front Street in Berwick, Pennsylvania.  Initial searching didn't find him in censuses.

by Owl (128k points)

So, what would be my best bet for pinning down the correct person. I'm sorry I'm new to genealogy and I have been having a really hard time finding this person. Also, I would like to get her birth certificate, so I need to find out where she came from. All I'm finding is that she is from Italy, but I can't find the region of Italy she is from.

Thanks for the help I truly appreciate it!

Austin

The passenger list indicates Montefusco, so please double-check whether that passenger list is the right Rose Ciano.  To me, it seems reasonable. The date matches Rose's arrival date recorded on the 1920 census, the father's name is a reasonable match to other information, and Rose Ciano was living near Berwick, PA according to the marriage license.

Ideally, your question will attract experts on Italian records, who can let you know about what is available in that region and how to search.  I'm not fully understanding familysearch's info page. It appears to show a large gap in the civil records during the time period you need: https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Montefusco,_Avellino,_Campania,_Italy_Genealogy

You could also check in with the Italy Project, and they can perhaps suggest experts on your region. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Italy

Austin,

Thats the 'fun' of genealogy, solving the puzzle to figure out which person is which.  The record I posted above only matched the birthdate you had given on her profile, but there are many Rosa Cianos, so you have to piece the puzzle pieces together to include all the facts.

Since the parent names on the death record don't match the birth record that matches the birthdate, it is likely that is not the correct person.  If the immigration record can be shown to be her, then it narrows down the area to Montefusco Avellino.

Not all records are online, more get added all the time.  However, Europe suffered many wars, and records were lost in fires/mold, etc.  Just keep putting the pieces together.

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