G2G: Who was the father of John Foote-43? [closed]

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This profile for John Foote-43 clearly says "Do not connect him to parents without G2G discussion and consensus on the emergence of new, high-quality evidence."  But recently a father, James John Foote-2152, has been added to the profile and John Foote's name changed to 'Robert John Foote, Sr.' with no discussion. The only sources for the profile for his father, Foote-2152, are links to Ancestry trees. Does anyone have any "new, high-quality evidence" for the father, or should he be detached? Should his name be changed back to John Foote, instead of Robert John Foote, Sr.? According to information on the profile "John Foote of Royston and his wife Helen Warren are currently considered to be the earliest documented ancestors of Nathaniel Foote, one of the first settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts and Wethersfield, Connecticut."

WikiTree profile: John Foot
Closed with the note: Undocumented father has been removed. Thanks for the input from everyone!
in Genealogy Help by Owl (241k points)
closed by Kay Wilson

If somebody did something spurious, put the profile back the way it was?

I agree with Eddie. Change the profile to its status quo ante. Put a note in regarding why you rolled back the changes, and contact the profile manager about the situation. I edited the profile to bold and cap the caveat to make it more noticeable;


Jim - suggestion to make warning notices like this even more noticeable:

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You can make it even better if you manually decide where to break multiple line notices so they don't run the full line width:

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Great idea, Gail!

I've PPP'd him under the England project.

An even better idea, Anne!

3 Answers

+7 votes
Ancestry trees as the only documentation is a good clue that there are no good sources.
by Owl (102k points)

+6 votes
Maybe I'm out of place, but has anyone checked with the facts on the Foote Family Association from their own website? My husband is a Foote descendant. They should have the answers to many of your questions. I hope this might help.

http://www.footefamily.org/
by G2G-10 (19.1k points)

Thanks for the link, Kathy Jo.

The association stops with John Foote as well. No parents:

http://www.footefamily.org/john_royston.html

Unfortunately, this particular page includes very few source citations, making it not very reliable.

You're welcome, Jillaine! If anyone thinks they have a source reference which is unavailable on their site, then my hope is that you please share it with them. Thanks!

By the way, the Foote family site often copy-and-pastes from their sources, so their text can often be googled, and the original source found.  The sources are often on archive.org -- since google doesn't index that well, it's worth trying:

"interesting text from Foote family content" site:archive.org

which forces google to search archive.org, only.   This is also a trick worth using on suspect Wikitree bios as well -- ones that are unsourced, lengthy, detailed, a bit archaic...

+4 votes

Thanks, all, particularly Kay for spotting this!  We JUST cleaned this profile up in December, so I am a tad steamed.  This is a confusing genealogy, and a lot of research has been done on it over the years; see the prior discussion on G2G at Foote Mess.

It's clear, looking at the change history, that the person making the changes just wanted to be helpful, but didn't even read the bio and prior discussion!

You can also see the link to that discussion on the profile itself, at the upper-right-hand side -- ALWAYS look there, to see what's up!

Since we had consensus, and it certainly hasn't changed, I've changed it back and deleted the link to the spurious father.

by Owl (39.7k points)

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