G2G: Are these records referring to the same George Emerson?

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If so, could someone help me find possible relatives living today in this Emerson branch? (this is my branch, also our branch was spelt Emerson when his brother John came to New Zealand) https://www.geni.com/people/John-Emerson/6000000004026217266

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWSK-YXJ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBX3-YQL

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBNS-PXV

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7D3-GB1

WikiTree profile: George Emmison
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I'm not an Emerson relative (well, being a fellow Kiwi, I could be, but as far as I know it would be very distant lol), but I would definitely say that these four records all relate to the same person.

The marriage record in Derbyshire is notable because, on the 1861 census, the eldest of their children is listed as being born in Derby, and based on the age estimate for the son he would have been born about a year after the marriage, which was fairly common in the nineteenth century because the mindset was that you married in order to have a family.

I also think that the 1871 census is likely correct, so long as there is no other George and Georgina in the area. Censuses often record the children as being from the same location as the rest of the family, whether out of laziness or convenience I can't say, so it's certainly not even close to being unheard of to find a child in a family listed with an incorrect birth location.

Similarly, with the 1911 census, I'd say that its probable that its the same George so long as you cannot find another George born around the same time, in the same place, which fits the bill better. This George is listed as a widower, so Georgina has to have passed away between 1871 and 1911. I couldn't find any death in the GRO; all of the deaths I found for the name Georgina Emmerson did not even close fit the age that she would be, which is why I'd take more caution with that record but it certainly isn't out of the question.
by Owl (224k points)
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On the question of tracing living relatives, this is tough in New Zealand, as almost no genealogical information for living people is available online.

I have had some success tracing living relatives using the microfiche versions of New Zealand's Civil Registration Indexes. These include births, deaths and marriages up to 1990. These microfiche are held by a number of libraries and genealogical organisation in New Zealand.

But all of this does involve quite a bit of painstaking manual searching!
by Owl (91.0k points)

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The 'George Emerson' (with the four records attached) could be the same as George Emmison linked - both born same time in the same area (Nottingham). Also some repetitions of names in the two families - eg William, Thomas. And George Emerson's father is William Emerson on the marriage certificate. 

The younger George Emmison's occupation is hose trimmer & his father was a brewer in the 1841 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXL-9JZ
The older George Emerson was a dyer, then shoemaker, then dyer. One of his son's is a grinder.

I'd say hard to be absolutely sure on the evidence though probable correlation, especially if no other George Emerson's born to a William Emerson /Emmison in Nottingham around 1837/9 (though there are gaps in the records).  

by Owl (44.0k points)

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