Vipond connection to Sunderland, Newcastle and cumber

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I'm tracing my Vipond ancestors and have hit a dead end.  in my direct line I have the Sunderland Viponds - my great great grandmother being Mary Ann Vipond, born in Sunderland in 1805.  The  line takes me to Thomas Vipond of Newcastle St Nicholas parish who married Margaret White  in St Mary of the South Bailey, Durham City in 1730.

However, the problem is that I can't find Thomas's father although there is some reason to believe it was Percival Vipond  (Vepon) of Newcastle st Nicholas, born 1660. However , it can't be by Percival's first wife, believed to be Dorothy Horsley, as she died about four years before my Thomas was born.  Can't find a second wife for Percival so the trail goes cold. Also he had a sonThomas born around 1689 so it would be odd to call another son Thomas even by a different wife, unless the first Thomas one died, but  that Thomas was mentioned in his  grandmother's will in the late 1690s; his grandmother was Frances who was married to Thomas  Vepon , born 1630) and, intriguingly I have found  a Percival Vepon who wrote a will in 1607 and who lived in  Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, but returned to Garragill at the end of his life. They are probably all connected but I would love to unravel my line!  Can anyone shed any light on it?  I have had my DNA done so if anyone else who is of the Vipond line has also done so we could compare notes.

Jacqueline
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I have not found your Thomas, but wonder if you have tried out in the direction of Hexham/Allendale. There are some Viponds around that area in the late 1600s/early 1700s. 

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/5a0cd2e24325a6ed836d4721

St. Hilda's in South Shields might also be worth a look if you have not already checked it out. Quite regularly used by folks from both Newcastle and the Monkwearmouth area. 

by Lynda Crackett G2G6 Pilot (626k points)
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Mary Ann Vipond

British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices

Name Mary Ann Vipond
Event Type Obituary
Event Date 03 Dec 1835
Event Place United Kingdom
Gender Female
Age 23

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FindMyPast has the marriage although it calls the bride Mary

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Vipond
Sex Male
Marriage year 1730
Marriage date 17 May 1730
Place Durham
Spouse first name(s) Mary
Spouse last name White
Groom's first name(s) Thomas
Groom's last name Vipond
Groom's parish NSN
Bride's first name(s) Mary
Bride's last name White
Bride's parish DSM
County Durham
Country England
Record set Northumberland And Durham Marriages

NSN is Newcastle St Nicholas
DSM is Durham St Mary the Less (also called St Mary's in the South Bailey)

Your comments implied you had a birth record for Thomas but I find anything convincing. The only Newcastle record is for Thomas Vipont in 1869 father Percevill which you've seen. Even 1689 seems too early for a 1730 marriage unless it was Thomas's second marriage.

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Vipont
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1689
Baptism date 21 Nov 1689
Place Newcastle on Tyne
County Northumberland
Country England
Father's first name(s) Percevill
Father's last name Vipont

There were no mother's details. The same record appeared twice with the only difference being the spelling Percivill. There are also records for Mary Vipont (20 Oct 1687) with father Percevill. Interestingly there's also a John Vipont, father Robert, baptised 29 May 1690 but this is in a different Newcastle church (All Saints).

There is a Thomas Vipond of about the right age born in Cumberland 1706 but that's on the other side of the country to Newcastle. Of course people did occasionally relocate but you can't equate a man from Cumberland with one whose parish is in Newcastle without evidence of a move (which may not now exist).

It also has the marriage between Percivill and Dorothy Horsley (20 May 1686).
by Matthew Fletcher G2G6 Mach 8 (88k points)
edited by Matthew Fletcher

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