G2G: Giffard line needs pruning and organizing

Question

At present we have Elias Giffard +bef 1248 with two daughters, Maud and Matilda, one of whom marries the other's grandson. As both women marry Godfreys and have sons Peter, the one surnamed Bolbec probably got confused with the other and became attached to the same parents. It's certain that Alice Bavent was Maud's granddaughter as per the ipm of her cousin of the half blood, John Giffard, taken in 1327 and that Matilda married the Godfrey who was sheriff of Wilts in 1258. 

I'm suggesting amputating Maud from the Giffard family. Given the duplication of Godfreys and Peters, it's possible that there never were two Godfreys and Peters, but it's hard to say. In any case if both Godfreys married Mauds, the latter women could not have been sisters.

British history online has a Godfrey Scudamore "probably dead by 1190" succeeded by a Peter (son or other relation?) who was succeeded by a Godfrey (again no specified relationship) who held it to at least 1262. This would appear to be Matilda's Godfrey, but was he the same as the earlier Godfrey or a different one? Then there's a son Peter succeeding by 1267. But the succession was not necessarily a straightforward father to son to grandson one as the lands were forfeited, reallocated, and reinstated at various times so more data would be helpful to sort out the relationships.

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http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=16080

 

Answer 1

I've detached Maud from the Giffard family for now.  But I see that Andrew had attached her to them a few months ago, so perhaps he can pipe in and give us the reasoning behind that.  Right now she's sitting with no parents (poor child!)  See Bolbec-5.  According to Jim Weber's site, this Maud was the daughter of Hugh de Bolebec.  But looking at Hugh's profile, I see no mention of a daughter Maud.  So hopefully someone can figure out to whom she belongs . . .

With regard to Godfredy Scudamore, British History Online regarding Fifield Bavant states:  

The two 11th-century estates in Fifield were apparently merged to form Fifield manor, which was held by Peter Scudamore until he forfeited it in or before 1216. The manor was granted in 1216 to Godescalde de Maghelin but was probably recovered by Scudamore with other lands in 1217.  It was later confiscated from Godfrey Scudamore and was restored to him in 1222. Godfrey (fl. 1262) was succeeded by his son Peter, who held the manor in 1267.  On Peter's death in or before 1293 it passed to his daughter Alice, relict of Adam Bavant. By 1301 Alice had been succeeded by her son Roger Bavant, later knighted. By 1336 Sir Roger had settled the manor on his son Roger and Roger's wife Hawise.