G2G: Who married Mayflower descendant John Snow (III) born 27 Dec 1706?

Question

Mayflower sources clearly identify [[Snow-12958 | John Snow (III)]], b: 27 Dec 1706 in Truro MA to [[Snow-86 | John Snow (Jr.)]] & Elizabeth (Ridley) Snow.  However, there was another [[Snow-507 | John Snow (Sr.)]], born 30 Mar 1706 in Woburn, Middlesex, MA, to Zerubbabel & Jemima Page (Cutler) Snow.

One of these 2 men married [[Brigham-81 | Abigail Brigham]] (also [[Brigham-1860]], who should be merged), on 25 Mar 1729 In Marlborough, Middlesex, MA.  They had children and Abigail's husband died on 12 May 1777 in Chesterfield NH USA as per FindAGrave #26962954.  

Who married the "other" John Snow - assuming he lived and married (nothing has been found to discredit this)?  The 2 men were not closely related as one descends from immigrant, [[Snow-4 | Nicholas Snow]] and the other from immigrant, [[Snow-873 | Richard Snow]].  

Does anyone who studies old colonial Massachusetts/New England, Mayflower descendants, etc., have any Sources that names the wife of a John Snow, born in 1705, 1706, 1707, that is Not Abigail Brigham?

I frankly believe that it was the Woburn-born [[Snow-507]] who married [[Brigham-81 | Abigail Brigham]] as their son was Zerubbabel & that John Snow's father was also [[Snow-503 | Zerubbabel Snow]] but John's parents are NOT named on their marriage record.   Thank you for any help!

Answer 1

These questions really should have been asked before Zerubbabel's (Snow-2846) parents were changed. I've seen no convincing reason to believe his grandfather was not Zerubabbel Snow of Woburn. When we have two John Snows, one from a family that had used the name Zerubabbel  in prior generations and one that had not, and nothing else to say which is which, the repetition of a father's unusual name is strong evidence for that line.

Lovely as it would be to add another Mayflower branch to my tree, I'm just not convinced this is it.

edit: Sorry if I sound a bit grumpy. I know you were not the one to make the changes, Chet. I just woke up and saw this and I'm in a bit of a huff about someone changing up my great grandparents without discussion.

Comments

Hello Ashley

Sorry to upset you - this developed from profiles edited by a non-family member whose husband descends from the Woburn MA Snow line.  I come from the Mayflower Barnstable MA line.  I am merely seeking to find if that John Snow (b 27 Dec 1706) had a wife and children so his profile (a distant cousin) can be accurate.  I have NOT changed anything concerning the Zerubbabel - John - Captain Zerubbabel Snow line, which I agree is accurate and descend from immigrants Richard & Annis Snow of Devon, England (no one knows where Nicholas came from in England and he never told anyone).

If you find changes you disagree with, look up the Changes tab and you can reverse/edit them as all these profiles are OPEN.

Best to yo

Chet Snow-2128

Answer 2

Silver book vol 6 pg 64 lists John Snow b. 1706 as the fourth child of John & Elizabeth (Ridley) Snow. No further record of him has been found. No evidence he was from Kittery and Falmouth Me.

Comments

This line of Snow comes from Constant Hopkins and John Snow. Not from Zerubabbel.

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Hi Tom Allen,

When you say "this line of Snows..." do you mean John Snow born 27 Dec. 1706 in Truro OR John Snow, born 30 March 1706 in Woburn?  If it's the former (27 Dec 1706...) then Yes, I agree with you that he was a Mayflower descendant of Nicholas Snow & Constance Hopkins Snow.

My question concerns that John's marriage and posterity.  Can ANYONE find a wife/marriage source for him OR possibly a death record if he died young or had no wife/offspring ?

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Chet, its good to ask, but those types of records are rare, very rare. Vital records in NE (& NY & NJ & . . .) are a wonder to behold but are VASTLY incomplete. If you run searches through the databases at Ancestry or at AA-NEHGS and get zero responses, if you review all the Snow genealogies and you find nothing after his birth -- that is, silence -- you must assume that John-12598 died young. Unless you can demonstrate he appears in his father's will (if there is one) or in some real estate transaction involving his siblings, then he died young. Which is what Tom Allen is pointing out regarding the "silence" about him at M5G 6:64. His "line" is not carried forward because those researchers could find no evidence that he survived to marry.

In addition to the importance of the naming pattern that Ashley Jones points out above, there is also the GEOGRAPHICAL pattern. People don't move around within NE all that much at this time. Cape Cod people are most likely to move westward and southerly into Rhode Island and into eastern Connecticut.  It is highly unlikely a Cape guy gets into NH, stopping to marry a Marlborough girl on the way. I'm even surprised a Woburn guy did that in this time period, going north, that is. Another Woburn family, the Moses Cleveland descendants (large families & very mobile) first moved south into Freetown & Bristol Co. & RI, then say after 1730 started expanding into central Mass., pushing west until they got through NY State to, yep, Cleveland, Ohio.

To sum up: (1) repeated use of unusual male name strongly indicates direct relationship; (2) very reputable research very strongly suggests alternate person died young; (3) NH is much further away from Truro than it is from Woburn, no matter how attractive the land deal might be for a younger son in an extremely limited land situation.

Oh, a (3b). While Truro men as sailors in the local to NE coastal trade are going downeast to Maine and will stay, you can't sail to Marlborough. You have to walk. And, again, Woburn is a shorter walk to Marlborough than is Truro.

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Yes, you are correct. John b. 27 Dec 1706 is a Mayflower descendant. No further record. Your John, son of Zeb is going to take a little more work. Does Zeb have a will?

Answer 3

You may have already researched the John Snows mentioned in Owen N. Wilcox, History of the Family of Benjamin Snow who is a Descendant of Richard Snow of Woburn, Massachusetts, (Cleveland, Ohio: Gates Legal Publishing, 1907) available at American Ancestors and Archive.org: [https://archive.org/details/historyfamilybe00wilcgoog/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22John+Snow%22]