Wife of immigrant Thomas Sayre? Margaret Aldred? I don't think so.

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Torrey's New England marriages lists the wife of Thomas Sayre (immigrant to Lynn, then Southampton, NY) as Margaret Aldred

" SAYRE, Thomas1 (1597, 1590, 1594?-1670) & Margaret ALDRED (23 Aug 1634); ca 1620/30 in Eng

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This is a little cryptic. The (   ) after the brides name should contain her birth and death years. It also says they married 1620/30 in England. Daughter Damaris was married by 1647 (if 18 b. 1629) but one child was not 18 in 1670

Find a grave decided this was her death (which it looks like from Torrey's notations) and buried her in Southampton, Suffolk County, New York.  But Thomas wasn't there in 1634. Only natives were there and perhaps a stray Dutch hunter in 1634. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152232115

There is however a marriage record. : Thomas Sair m. Marget Aldred 24 Aug 1634 at South Cove, Suffolk, England  Src: "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NL9Q-Z4W : 10 February 2018), Thomas Sair and Marget Aldred, 24 Aug 1634; citing South Cove,Suffolk,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 919,570.

Suffolk isn't convenient to Bedfordshire. Marget couldn't be the mother of the younger children. Torrey says nothing about a 2nd marriage. There are no records in New England that give her even a first name.

Someone got confused/ mistaken. I think Wikitree needs to lose Thomas' wife Margaret Aldrich (not delete her) but disconnect her.

WikiTree profile: Thomas Sayre
asked in Genealogy Help by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1m points)

2 Answers

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When did Thomas’ wife die? Margaret’s profile has two dates: 1634 and 1653.
answered by George Fulton G2G6 Pilot (159k points)
It is my opinion that his wife's date is unknown. The 1634 date is the date Torrey used but I believe that it's not a death date but the marriage date of Aldred and a different Thomas Sayre.
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I don't place too much credence on the marriage in Suffolk. South Cove is 130 Miles from Leighton Buzzard, and looks to be too late to be the right marriage. Whilst I can't see any obvious children for the Suffolk couple which would rule them out, i can't see anything that makes me think that this is the right Thomas Sayre or Seare. Safer to disconnect Margaret from Thomas. With Leighton Buzzard records missing from 1615 to 1653 there's every chance that the marriage and baptisms of the earlier children took place in LB and are lost and gone forever.The best hope is that some record will turn up in the US.
answered by David Cooper G2G6 (9.8k points)
When you were looking at this family, did you see anything giving her a first name? One of the Torrey sources listed Martha ____ but of course was unsourced.
I wasn't really looking at the US end, just England. And I found nothing after his baptism, doubtless because of the missing parish register

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