G2G: Could someone help me find where it is (region, county) my family originated from in Ireland?

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My ancestors last name is Dolan. My great grand mother was the daughter of Irish immigrants that settled in Boston. Though, I do not remember the name of my great grand mother. One of her daughters was my grandmother "Theresa Dolan", she was one of 10 brothers and sisters. Siblings include, Robert (Bobby), Madeline, others unknown. My Mother "Elizabeth DeGange." I am hoping that with this information I can finally know where it is in Ireland my family came from.
WikiTree profile: Frank Dolan
in Genealogy Help by Newt (400 points)
retagged by Darlene Athey-Hill

Do you have any birth year information on Theresa and her siblings? Were they born in Ireland?  

It could be County Tyrone, or an adjacent county, but that's only a guess based on what surnamedb.com says.  

County Tyrone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Tyrone

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County Tyrone (from Irish: Tír Eoghain, meaning "land of Eoghan") is one of the six counties of Northern Ireland. Adjoined to the south-west shore of Lough  ...


http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Dolan

 


To my knowledge, all Dolan children were born in Boston. My grandmother, Theresa Dolan was born June, 8th, 1936 - July 12th, 2009.

Francis P Dolan

United States Census, 1900


John Dolan
Head M 40 Ireland
Rebecca Dolan Wife F 36 Ireland
Thomas J Dolan Son M 11 Massachusetts
John H Dolan Son M 10 Massachusetts
Mary Dolan Daughter F 8 Massachusetts
Rebecca Dolan Daughter F 6 Massachusetts
Margaret Dolan Daughter F 3 Massachusetts
Francis P Dolan Son M 0 Massachusetts

We do not know if this is Francis Dolan's family ( above)  yet ( in 1900 census) because there are other babies named Francis Dolan born in  Boston, Mass Civil births in 1899-1901.

Best to start with what you know with your grandmother's records.

But I see lots of records for this particular where Rebecca is a Kilmartin.

@Frank. Just a matter of general information. I am presently indexing Tyrone records on Family Search so more Tyrone information is on the way. These cover baptisms, marriages and burials from the 1750's to 1850's

Riley,

Are you using maiden names or married names for your mother and grand mothers?  I linked your question to your Dolan Grandfather so others can quickly find this family.

One of the best keys to Irish research is to document families.  Do you know of any siblings of any of your ancestors from Ireland.  These will help us find where in Ireland through Census Records.

Have you looked for or found their immigration records?  They appear to come to the US at a time where they likely would have been documented.  These records are great for finding townlands in Ireland and are the prize you are looking for.  Once the Townland is found, you will have better results.

As if you hadn't enough replies here is another. There is a Naturalisation record for a John Deolin (spelliang variant of Dolan). The dates look right but it suggests he was born in County Donegal.  The rootsireland.ie website gives two possible births but a few years different from expected:

1855 in Killygordon to William and Bridget Muoy and

1864 in Milford to William and Sarah McGrory

Good luck.

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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4V8-4WQ

Theresa Dolan

United States Census, 1940

Name Theresa Dolan
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 20, Boston, Boston City, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Gender Female
Age 4
Marital Status Single
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birthplace Massachusetts
Birth Year (Estimated) 1936

HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Francis Dolan Head M 40 Massachusetts
Cecilia Dolan Wife F 39 Massachusetts
Francis Dolan Son M 12 Massachusetts
Madeline Dolan Daughter F 11 Massachusetts
Paul Dolan Son M 9 Massachusetts
Marie Dolan Daughter F 8 Massachusetts
Theresa Dolan Daughter F 4 Massachusetts
John Dolan Son M 3 Massachusetts
Patricia Dolan Daughter F 1 Massachusetts
by Golden Owl (2.8m points)

That's excellent information. Although, how could I determine which county my family is from?

One of my gg grandfathers was born in Ireland, possibly from county Antrim. He was born in 1810, but I am not certain as to his county location at the time.

There are probably others at WikiTree who have the ability fo pinpoint the county and maybe you will hear from them, or select someone who seems to have the skill required.

I'm not sure how to do that.

Page up to the top of the page to where it says "Members" and send a private message to the first name and or the first two or three. Explain your interest and request their help.

Riley ~ The best thing you can do is collect all evidence for this family in your home/ your Mother's home or other relatives. I found the location for one Irish ancestor stated in an obituary. Another's birthplace was engraved on the tombstone ! Also a birthplace uncovered in a sibling's death record.

The reason why is once you get over the pond, there will be many Dolans with same names/ ages and you will be better equipped to sort out which ones are yours.

It appear to be a large family so research all the siblings first. Then the death certificates of the grandparents. I do see some references to Dolans but when I looked to post the sources on your tree, you did not have them up yet. I will check next week and add those sources.

If Cecilia is the one who died aged 97 in 1997 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKWV-KHXL, then Kilmartin looks right as Francis had a middle initial of P for Patrick https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FH2C-Y3T

John Dolan and Rebecca Kilmartin married in 1888 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61CD-QF?i=646&cc=1469062 & https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G97M-SDG?i=1034&cc=2061550. His parents were Patrick and Mary, hers were John and Mary - no surnames were given.

John Dolan died in 1910 at 261 Heath Street, the address given on his death return and the 1910 Census taken just before his death. In the death return his mother was named as Mary Kelly.

There's only one Rebecca Kilmartin to be found and that's in the on-line Catholic parish registers. She was born in Roscommon on 5th May 1861 to a John and Mary - https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633897#page/44/mode/1up. Possibly a little too old.


PS The only John Dolan born to a Patrick and Mary Kelly I can find is at https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633897#page/21/mode/1up

He was born on 25th March 1854 in Kiltoom Parish, County Roscommon. The same parish as Rebecca Kilmartin.

 


Francis Dolan died on 14th June 1973 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZBC-XNL and is buried along with his wife Cecelia in a Mutter family grave. Cecilia was the daughter of John Daniel and Maria Bruening and was born on 12th June 1900 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4XP-SFZ

Meanwhile back in Roscommon, there is only one Patrick Dolan in the parish of Kiltoom in the 1857-8 property survey. He lived in Carrownderry townland.


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I was told that the Dolan’s came mostly from Galway? My Dolan’s came from Ireland to Ohio, then on to Arkansas.

Char Green Wylie
by G2G-1 (1.7k points)

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If you go back far enough

There was at one time a sept of Sligo in Connaught named O'Devlin. They had no connection with the O'Devlins of Tyrone and have apparently been extinct for many centuries" they changed their name to Dolan.

  • Corca Fhir Trí - Corca-Firthri, the people of the barony of Gallen (Gailenga), co. Mayo; and the baronies of Leyney (Luigne) and Corran in co. Sligo; as cited in Onomasticon Goedelicum. Citing from the annals, a sept referenced as Ui Dobhailen (O'Devlin or perhaps O'Dolan) is noted with connections to Luighne (Connacht) and the people of Corca Fir Thrí. MacLysaght states that O'Devlin is derived from the Irish O Doibhilin, a sept located in the barony of Corran, County Sligo, matching to the reference of Luighne and Gailenga in the Annals (below). He also notes the surname O'Dolan deriving from the Irish O Dobhailen, further noting this sept in Ui Maine country.
by Owl (549k points)
edited by Richard Devlin

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One of your ancestors was Francis Dolan born Ireland in 1910.

Francis Dolan

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth:

January 1910 / March 1910

Enniskillen, Ireland

Francis Dolan

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth:

January 1910 / March 1910

Mountbellew, Ireland

Thomas Francis Dolan

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth:

January 1910 / March 1910

Manorhamilton, Ireland

Francis Dolan

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth:

April 1910 / June 1910

Castlebar, Ireland

Francis Dolan

New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957

birth:

1910

Ireland

immigration:

1929

New York, New York, United States

Francis Dolaghan

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth:

January 1910 / March 1910

Belfast, Ireland

Frances Dolan

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth:

July 1910 / September 1910

Mohill, Ireland

by Golden Owl (2.8m points)

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Dolan

SDB Popularity Ranking: 321

 

This interesting surname is of Irish origin, and is an anglicization of the Old Gaelic "O'Dobhailein". The Gaelic prefix "O" indicates "grandson" or "male descendant of", plus the personal byname "Dobhailein", from "dobhail" meaning "unlucky" or "unfortunate". Traditionally, Irish family names are taken from the heads of tribes, or from some illustrious warrior, and are usually prefixed by "O" (as above), or "M(a)c", denoting "son of". The principal (O) Devlin sept belonged to County Tyrone; their territory lay on the Tyrone shore of Lough Neagh and was known as Munterdevlin, the first element coming from the Gaelic "muntir", country or territooday the name is chiefly found in Tyrone and its adjacent counties. The second main sept belonged to County Sligo, and their territory lay in the barony of Corran. In 1316, one Gillananaev O'Devlin, of the county, standard bearer to the O' Connors, was slain in battle. The name is still prominent in Counties Sligo, Leitrim and Cavan, but has, in some areas, been widely changed to Dolan. Anne Devlin (1778 - 1851) was the faithful servant of the Irish patriot Robert Emmet, who though imprisoned and tortured refused to give information against him. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of O' Devlin, which was dated died 1211, Bishop of Kells, during the reign of Cathal "Crabhhearg" (Red Hand), King of Ireland, 1198 - 1224. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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by Golden Owl (2.8m points)

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The wife of John Dolan is Rebecca Kilmartin:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FX4R-L8R

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWDT-Z72

 

Name Rebecca Kilmartin

Gender Female

Christening Date 05 May 1861

Christening Place ROMAN CATHOLIC,CAM AND KILTOOM,ROSCOMMON,IRELAND

Father's Name John Kilmartin

Mother's Name Mary Nolan

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F52F-RZN
by G2G-10 (19.1k points)

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My grandfather is a Dolan. Try looking in Glangevlin, Cavan. There are tons of Dolans there going back generations.
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