G2G: Do you have a Frazier, Fraser, Frasher ancestor who came over from Europe to North America?

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As a part of the Frazier Name Study, I am beginning a subcategory listing of Frazier Emigrant Settler ancestors who came over from the British Isles, generally, to North America.  Each Emigrant Settler ancestor will be assigned a Family Group number, such as FG1, FG2, etc. which will be used to track the Frazier family group's migration across North America.  If you have a Frazier ancestor on Wikitree that you would like to have assigned a Family Group number, please answer here!  This will include all variants of Frazier and the ancestor will need to be properly sourced as being born in Europe, generally, and having emigrated to North America.
WikiTree profile: Space:Frazier_Name_Study
in The Tree House by Owl (109k points)

I tried to add a categorization tag but it exceeded the limit of tags. I hope you're coordinating with the categorization project.

Yes, Jillaine, I am coordinating with them.  Ros was kind enough to help me properly create subcategories to fit on the ONS category tree.  See this question: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/837312/create-subcategories-family-groups-migration-across-america 

I am still considering moving all names from the generic Frazier Name Study category to a more specific category in order to reduce the number of categories on a profile, but it is my understanding that there is not a limit to number of categories, so I am not sure that it will be necessary.  See this discussion about categories:  https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/806792/did-you-see-that-categories-now-appear-at-the-bottom-profiles?start=20#a_list_title

Have you taken a look at the Frazier Name Study? I would invite you to do so.


My great grandfather was William Wesley Fraser born 1864 in Canada. Emigrated to the United States (Massachusetts) married Maryann McPherson died 1918-1919. His father was James Macgregor Fraser born 1825 in Nova Scotia Canada married to Joanna Pangburn.  His father was James Seumas Ian R. Fraser born 1790 in Kilttarlity (spelling?), Inverness, Scotland and his father was John ( Ian Ruladgh) Fraser born 1776 in Druin-A-Chardain, Inverness, Scotland.

I see William Wesley Fraser on your tree.  Do you have sources for his father and grandfather back to Scotland?  I look forward to adding them to the Frazier Name Study and I will create a new family group for James Seumas who was probably the main emigrant to the North America.


Eddie,

I believe I have a Fraser somewhere and you are more than welcome to enroll them in your one name study.

Taylor

The only source I have is a family tree created on Ancestry.com by Donald Fraser who is the grandson  of William Wesley Fraser who is my great grandfather.  Donald's father was Stanley the son of William Wesley and my great uncle.

Thank you, Taylor.

I will try to add what profiles that I can. Sourcing is the tricky part the further back we go, Michelle.

I have a third great grandfather, John Fraser born 1768 Glenmoriston Inverness-Shire Scotland Immigrated sometime around 1803 to Glengarry Ontario and died there in 1831

That is very interesting! Perhaps you will join WikiTree and add his Frazier line on the tree. I don't think I've seen his profile yet.

I haven’t moved my research onto this platform, yet, but I have an ancestor Benoni Frazier (spelling varies) who came over from Scotland to Dorchester, Maryland.

Bennoni Fraser born to James Fraser & Mary Porteous on 7 August 1701 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Christening 07 Aug 1701 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Marriage to Cicelah Chipley ABT. 1725 Dorchester Co., MD

Death 11 August 1773 Dorchester, Maryland, United States

Jaclyn, looks like wikitree has a profile for Benoni, although the one free claims he was born in Maryland. The listed sources are only other online trees though. 

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Frazier-2907

The profile manger is active. 


Thank you so much for linking his profile for me! I found his christening record in Scotland, so I believe that is where he was born.

That's great, Jaclyn.  I hope you'll add that source to his profile.

12 Answers

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My GG grandmother, Catherine Fraser (Fraser-2098) was born in Scotland in 1837. She married Alexander McLeran Keay and their son, Alex Keay (my great-granddfather) immigrated to the US. Of course, as far as my line goes the name Fraser was lost when Catherine married a Keay.
by Owl (284k points)

Bart, I will add her to the Frazier Name Study in Scotland. I wish we could also track the female lines, but it doesn't fit within the parameters of the One Name Studies.  I would be very interested in any other Fraser family members she may have had who may have emigrated to North America, if you find out about any.

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My Fraser ancestors arrived in Minnesota in about 1882 from Posen Prussia.  The surname was spelled Frase, at that time.  Gustav Eduard Frase married Bertha Holz in 1882 in Bromberg.  I found verification of the marriage in the Prussian (Poznan) Project.  It was a civil ceremony.  I found the original document at the LDS FHS in Honolulu.  Much of the family is still in Minnesota.
by Newt (500 points)

Very interesting! I will add Gustav Frase as FG11 if he has a sourced WikiTree profile set up.  Please give me his WikiTree ID.

[[Fraser-7362|Christine (Fraser) Espiritu]]

I think this is what you were looking for.  I just saw it now!

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No, I don't, but I have a great-great-grandmother whose maiden name was Ramsay and whose children's surname is Laird, who emigrated to the United States in the 1900s. :)
by Owl (24.1k points)

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My great great grandfather, William Cowie Fraser (Fraser-6648), was born in Peterhead, Scotland in 1903. He settled in Toronto, Canada, before eventually moving to Davie, Florida in the US.
by Newt (500 points)

I've added him as the head of Family Group 12.

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My ancestor James E. Fraser (as far as the information I have is correct) arrived from Scotland in the mid to late 1700s. He is something of a dead end in my tree. I do know that his descendants eventually settled in the Carolinas, although I believe he may have been in Virginia initially.

EDIT: I just rechecked my information and it appears that James E. may have actually been born in Virginia. I have conflicting information from personal family histories and from searching through census records. If he was born in Virginia, then it would have been his father who arrived from Scotland.
by Newt (740 points)
edited by Alexis Hall

Does he have a profile on WikiTree? I can at least add him to the Frazier Name Study and we can work our way back.

Frazier-3117. I’m not the profile manager for him, but I do have most of the profiles of his descendants down to myself. I’m away from home at the moment so I’m on my phone, but I can probably dig back to a little more information when I’m able to get back to my computer. I was pretty deep in research back in the winter but I’ve had a busy last couple months so I’ve taken a bit of a break. Things are slowing down for me now, so I’m eager to jump back in!

That is great! You night want to check out the Frazier Name Study so you can figure out how to add that category to the Frazier profiles you add. The template for the study is restricted to the emigrants who actually came over and settled here.  And if they are the head of a Frazier tree in the New World, I will assign a Family Group number to them in order to track the migration of their descendants. A link to the Frazier Name Study is in the question.

I’ve looked at it some and will definitely get involved when I have computer access again! Can’t wait to do some more digging! :)

Sounds like your line could be the same as mine.  I was born Frazier.  I'm from South Carolina. My Frazier line goes back from SC to NC and then back to VA.  I know that somewhere along the way, someone came from Scotland but I have very little documentation.  I'm still searching.

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I have a brickwall Fraser ancestor on Wikitree.  Elizabeth (Fraser) Odlum (1796-1836) was Irish or Scottish.  She married an Irish military man, a member of the British Royal Navy and had children in Africa and Gibraltar.   I suspect her father was a notable--that is, General Sir John Fraser, because he seems to be stationed in similar places to Elizabeth's husband Abraham Odlum. My ancestor, who immigrated to Ontario, was a daughter of Odlum, so this would not strictly fit the criteria for your name study.  I don't know if any male descendants of General Sir John Fraser migrated, but that should be knowable.

by Owl (62.6k points)

Very interesting! I will add her to the Frazier Name Study because she does qualify for that; and hopefully the profile of her father (and any siblings) will be added to WikiTree. Thanks for your contribution!

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No I don't, but I do have a female brickwall ancestor, 4th GG, by the name of Fraser. Charity (Fraser) Spivey, 1775 - 1853, (Fraser-6724) born in North Carolina.  I know that does not qualify for what you're asking, but I thought I would throw her out there in case any Fraser, Frazier, Frashers might recognize her.  

Wishing you all the best with this Fraser endeavor.

Janet (Spivey-701)

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fraser-6724

by Owl (68.1k points)

I will happily add her to the study. She has the LNAB of Fraser, so she is a part of it. Unfortunately, her children don't qualify, as I don't,  even though my mother's maiden name is Frazier.

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Alexander Frazier was born in Scotland 1765, and was in Washington County PA around 1800. Eventually moved to Guernsey County Ohio . Died 1842. I believe he was on the same ship as Alexander Frazier 1772, perhaps a nephew or cousin.
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Pam, have you found profiles for these Alexander Frazier's on WikiTree?

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Hi, the first of my ancestors who was born in America was Jeremiah Collin (or Collins, depending on the source consulted) Fraser (it was sometimes spelled Frazer).  He was born on 20 Jan 1763 in Scotch Plains, NJ and died on 16 Aug 1847 in Oswego, NY.  We believe that his father's name was Simon Fraser or Frazer, who was born in Scotland.  There is a Simon Frazer, born in Scotland on 18 Jul 1742, and died in about 1828 in America, who seems to be a likely candidate for Jeremiah's father, but we are not certain.  We do not know the year that Simon came to America.   We do not know who Jeremiah's mother was.  We have been trying for many years to find out who Jeremiah's father was and hope that someone might come up with more definite information for us.  Thank you for any help that we may receive.
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Hopefully, as we get more research and family lines tracked on WikiTree and the Frazier Name Study, we will be able to answer your questions.  Take a look at the Frazier Name Study page to see what projects we have going on. When you're ready, we would love to have you join us.

Thank you, I will keep trying and enter the information into this program when and if I get it.

You may have noticed that there are a lot of Simon Frasers who came over from Scotland. Hopefully we will be able to document them all and track the different families. I will be happy to help document your family on WikiTree as I can.  Thank you for your input!

Update:  Earlier this year, I hired a pro genealogist at Ancestry.com to try to find the names of Jeremiah's parents.  The pro genealogist could not find the names.  So, despite spending a great deal of money to try to get an answer to my question, I am no further ahead than I was before.  I am very discouraged.  I will keep trying and if I find the answer, I will post it here.

Hello there! I'm including a link to my profile on Ancestry. The information I have for Simon Frazer and Jeremiah is the same as you and they're both connected through my ThruLines. I have quite a few Frazers in my tree.

Take a look and see if any of it helps.

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/38398973/family?cfpid=19230632887

Hi Kat, many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, after much searching and even hiring a pro genealogist from Ancestry.com, I am no further ahead than I was.  A number of years ago when I was compiling my family tree on Ancestry, I made the mistake of adding Simon b.1742 as the father of Jeremiah.  That was simply a hunch on my part.  Well, it would seem after I did that, many people took that information and started using it for their trees.  I can find no proof that Simon b.1742 is the father of Jeremiah.  I removed him from that position a number of years ago so as not to proliferate potentially false information.  The book written in about 1928 about our line of the Fraser family entitled, A Genealogy of the Coles and Allied Families, by my father's grand aunt, Eva Grace Fraser Briggs, asserts that a Simon was Jeremiah's father, and that Simon's father was a David, and that his father was the Rev. James Fraser of Brea (1639-1699).  After much research, I discovered that such a claim was impossible as Rev. James had no sons who survived to manhood.  Rev. James DID have a brother, David Fraser of Mayne (or, of Brea; 1646-BEF 1735) who had a son, Simon (1674-1735?).  It appears that Simon only had daughters.  So apparently we are not descended from Fraser of Brea as is claimed by Mrs. Briggs.  She never cited any authoritative sources. I have found that there is even the possibility that the Frasers in Scotch Plains, NJ, changed their name to Frazee.  I have corresponded with a researcher with the Historical Society of Scotch Plains and Fanwood who gave me the information about the Fraser-Frazee name situation.  There is a Frazee House historical site in Scotch Plains with its resident, Betty Frazee, being a person of historical importance.  There is no way to tell if Jeremiah is part of this family.  If you check Jeremiah's military records it indicates that the names of his parents are not listed.  He enlisted in the Continental Army in Scotch Plains.  Our problem is that there are no written sources in NJ from this era to verify any family information about Jeremiah.  Nothing. If genealogists list some of these people as Jeremiah's relatives they are doing so without being able to provide any documented sources as proof of their claims.  My guess is that Jeremiah was intentionally trying to conceal the names of his parents.  I have a hunch that his family may have been banished from Scotland as being Jacobites and shipped to America.  He may not have wanted to carry that reputation with him so he avoided mentioning his father's name.  This, as I said, is just a guess on my part.  If you have any documents that can support your research, please let me know.  I really do thank you for contacting me.  My life is very hectic right now and I have no time for genealogical research.  I hope to get some time soon.  Take care and I will be in touch if I find anything.  There are so many people trying to find the answer to who is Jeremiah's father.  We cannot find out where our family came from in Scotland if we don't know that information.  Blessings, Lynn

PS:  if you decide to get a free GEDmatch.com membership, which I would encourage you to do, you can see if you and I are related.  My GEDmatch ID no. is GH6222630 and my GEDcom number on that website is 6972023

Trying to document the ancestry of Frasers/Fraziers/Frazees that have come over from Scotland, Ireland, or England is beyond difficult. There is very little documentation and a repetition of given names that makes it almost impossible. I think our only hope in trying to track down family lines is through yDNA testing. FamilyTreeDNA offers decent yDNA testing and they have a group project for Fraser and Septs tracking yDNA tests. My problem is that there is only one living Frazier male that is in my 2nd cousin range and I have yet to convince him to take a yDNA test. For those of you trying to track your Fraser/Frazier line, try to get male relatives with the Fraser/Frazier/Frazee last name to test and then join the group. We may be able to use that to connect with family still in the Old Country or at least connect with other family members in the U.S. (or Australia.)

Hi Edie, I agree!  I have no direct line male relatives who could test for Y DNA. There is one of my matches on Ancestry who lives only about an hour’s drive from me who is a direct line male from Jeremiah through Jeremiah’s son, Jeremiah. I have tried to convince him to test and told him I would pay for the testing but I can’t get him interested. I probably should try again. I myself have done DNA testing with Ancestry, FTDNA and 23 and Me. The other problem is that some folks do not put their DNA test results up on GEDmatch, and others don’t include trees. This could help a lot if they did. We need the Y DNA. At this point, any genetic connection I might have to another potential match would be very diluted, so I’m thinking that knowing the haplogroup would help. Thanks for your input!

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My great uncle Thomas James Fraser who was born In Cookstown, Northern Ireland travelled to North America, married and ultimated settled in Saskatoon, Canada. He almost went down with the Titanic quite literally as he had booked a passage on it. His father however had a bad feeling about maiden voyages and convinced him to travel on another ship!! He moved about quite a bit in North America so I believe before settling in Saskatoon. He was a barber by trade and quite a successful one so I've been told!

Happy to be involved in this though I may need some guidance with the jiggery pokery IT stuff ; )
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Ay yi yi!! Close call!  Welcome to the Frazier Name Study! Take your time figuring it out and feel free to ask lots of questions.

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Hi,

I have a Frazer ancestor, George Frazer, (Freeze-421) baptized 1740 in Tarves, Scotland, Aberdeenshire. I have hit a brick wall there. He immigrated to Deer Isle, ME. and raised his family there. His surname seems to change to Freese once here. However his son, Issac took the family surname back after visiting Scotland and marrying a Scottish women. One of Issac's brothers, Abraham also kept the name and passed it on to his daughters.

My question is why did they change the surname so radically?
by G2G-3 (3.6k points)

That is a good question that I can't answer!  Hopefully one of us will run across the answer in our research. Or maybe someone on WikiTree will know the answer.

By the way, does your ancestor, George Freeze, have the Frazier Name Study categories on his profile?

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Yes,  This is Priscilla Floyd.  My mother's maiden name is Frazier and our ancestor who came over from Scotland is John Frazier, Sr, born 1730 in Inverness, Scotland and died in 1799 in South Carolina. He arrived in Virginia in 1750 and I have sources for his passage.  His father in Scotland was Donald Fraser. My  maternal Grandfather's name was Grover Cleveland Frazier, and most of his family settled around Scott Cty, Virginia in the 1700's and 1800's.
by G2G-1 (1.1k points)
edited by Priscilla Floyd

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