Rosalie (Martin) Neve
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Rosalie (Martin) Neve

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Communication Preferences: I am interested in communicating private message with anyone who shares the same genealogical or historical interests. Here is my family tree. Ancestors ancestors
I have been reproducing a portion of my private family tree on to wikitree. The tree on ancestry includes additional information on my descendants who are not adults yet (10 additional grandchildren to date) and their respective ancestors and extended families.
Ms Rosalie J. Neve formerly Martin
Born 1950s.
Ancestors ancestors
Sister of [private sister (1950s - unknown)], [private sister (1950s - unknown)] and [private sister (1960s - unknown)]
Descendants descendants
Mother of [private daughter (1970s - unknown)], [private daughter (1970s - unknown)], , [private son (1980s - unknown)], , [private daughter (1980s - unknown)], [private son (1990s - unknown)] and
Profile last modified | Created 4 Jun 2020 | Last significant change: 25 Sep 2021
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Rosalie (Martin) Neve is an Indigenous Australian.
Rosalie (Martin) Neve is a member of the Indigenous Australians Team.
England Orphan Team
Rosalie (Martin) Neve has completed the England Project's Post 1700 Orphan Trail I.
England Orphan Team
Rosalie (Martin) Neve has completed the England Project's Pre-1700 Orphan Trail II.
Scotland's Tartan Trail
Rosalie (Martin) Neve is a graduate of the Scotland Tartan Trail II.
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Rosalie participated in the England v Australia Ashes Challenge.
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Rosalie has participated in the USBH Connecting Challenge.
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I am the eldest of my family and the first female in my matrilineal line in Australia, to be educated formally at school. I am also the first of the women in my family born on Gumbainggirr land to be and to identify as an Aboriginal person and to be accepted as such by the Aboriginal community I live and work in. I have always had a keen interest in family history and my fathers family tree has been passed on to me by word of mouth from my father and others over decades since I was about 8 years old. I am an Aboriginal cultural heritage specialist and educator and I enjoy opportunities to work with and for Aboriginal communities on all matters relating to Aboriginal cultural values and family lines. I was educated through St Mary's Bellingen, Bellingen High School, University of New England and Flinders University. When my first child was arriving I opted to be a 'stay at home parent' until my children were at school and in the care of others for large sections of the day. When they were I had time to complete my university studies and pursue ongoing employment. I graduated with a Bachelor of Arts majoring in archaeology and paleoanthropogy on my mother’s 70 birthday in October 2007. While working as an archaeologist for the NSW government in 2008 I started post graduate studies with Flinders University in Cultural Heritage Management. I have lived mostly in Bellingen until a short-term 18 month contract with Griffith University in Brisbane as the project officer for their ongoing Indigenising their curriculum project took me to Queensland in 2008. In March 2010 I started working in Coffs Harbour again for the same agency I started with in 2007 for a 3-month contract and started commuting weekly by car from my new home in Queensland to my old home in Bellingen. However, that has evolved into ongoing employment over the years in a number of different roles in Aboriginal cultural heritage regulation.

In 2017 at the request of other family members who were also the descendants of Jack and Jesse Cook I was their contact officer for the purposes of registering the family's Aboriginal corporation with the Office of the Registrar of Indigenous. Corporations Cook Family of Barrington.

Since July 2020 I am working for the NSW Department of Premier & Cabinet in a work from home capacity in Queensland as part of the COVID response.


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Thank you for the welcome. I appreciate it.
posted by Betty Chernoff
Thank you Rosalie for welcoming me! I really appreciate it. Jenny Hodby
posted by Jennifer Timms
Hi Rosalie,

Thank you for contributing to my tree during the WikiTree Challenge this week! Yvette Hoitink

posted by Yvette Hoitink
Hi Rosalie,

I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the goals of the England Project during the past six months. We've achieved a huge amount during this period and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.

As the England Project Leaders, we are completing our six monthly check-in with all project members.

Are you happy to stay in your current project team(s)? Which team(s) are you most active in? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?

Also, do you have any feedback on what the project is doing well and anything we could do better in the future?

Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks!

Nic, England Project Leader

posted by Nic Donnelly
Thank you for the check in Nic. I am happy to stay in the Kent County team and I have much to still do in that area of research. I am also interested in Lincolnshire, Sussex, Greater London and Middlesex and Devon in the next 6 months.

I enjoy working on the English lines in the WikiTree Challenge as well as my own family ones. I think this is being done well. Not sure what else to add at this time.

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
edited by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi Rosalie, Thanks for the nice welcome. I have previously used Geni. I uploaded my GEDCOM file with 552 names, and was disappointed to not find a single match - oh well. To get started with my family tree, I am trying out the ADD button. It takes me to the "Add an Unrelated Person Form". That page states "If you're adding a family member it's better to add them as a parent, sibling, spouse, or child from your profile or from someone else in your family tree" so I am confused. I don't mind adding profiles one at a time, but I'd rather not retype all of my information. What is the correct way to do this? Thanks, Aaron
posted by Aaron Liston
Hi Rosalie, Thank you for welcoming me. I'm trying to figure out how to start my tree. I have a tree started on I took their DNA test. How do I get it onto here? My maiden name is Davison. But I've been researching Hiestand, Byrum, Booher, Pickard, as well as Davison Thank you and nice to meet you, Robin
Hi Robin,

Here is a link to Ancestry's instruction on downloading a GEDCOM from Ancestry. It takes some time to download a GEDCOM. Once it has downloaded, you can then upload it on WikiTree. It will take some time to upload and you will get a message emailed to you when it is ready. The GEDCOM will not automatically populate your tree. It generates a GEDCOMpare report which you work through, either accepting or rejecting, suggested matches. This link is very helpful when working through your report GEDCOMpare Process

This is time-consuming, though can be worth it in the end. Unlike other sites, where there are many trees, WikiTree is a single tree, so checking before uploading will save you the effort of having to merge duplicate profiles later. This process allows you to look for existing profiles that can save you a lot of time later.

Once you have completed the match/reject review in the GEDCOMpare process, an Add button will appear beside the remaining records in your GEDCOM. That Add button will let you create new profiles without having to type everything. It is still a one by one process because the data needs to be reviewed for completeness and sources.

If you have more than 5,000 names, you will need to split your tree.splitting a tree

If your Ancestry tree is more than 5,000 people, you have to download your tree as a GEDCOM, then upload it to Ancestry as a duplicate tree, or upload it to a desktop program, then remove records until you have less than 5,000 names. You then download this as a GEDCOM and then you can upload it on WikiTree. Then you do the same with the remaining names.

We do not download DNA Data on WikiTree. We do enter our DNA testing information and it is very easy to do. On the top right of most pages, there is an active button "ADD". If you hover over that button there is a drop-down box and the first item is DNA. Click on that and follow the instructions. You can enter your testing company and the type of test such as Y-DNA, mtDNA, or Autosomal (Family Finder): Ancestry, FTDNA, My Heritage, and GedMatch are examples of the companies. You will also add your identifying information such as the kit # for FTDNA.

If you have already entered ancestors it will take about 24 hours for your test information to populate those profiles. As you add more profiles the information will continue to show up on all the appropriate ancestors' profiles. I hope this helps, any problems please let me know

Take care

Rosalie ~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hello Robin. It is nice too meet you as well. I have outlined the steps to get the file for the DNA and the family tree from below.

1. Click on your account picture in the top right corner.

2. Click site settings

3. On the site settings page, scroll to the far right, and click on help.

4. In the help menu, click on download account data.

5. On the Requesting a download of your account data page, scroll down to the section that says Requesting your tree data, the click the link that says click here

6. Under the family tree Data section, click the request button

7. Click the download link

That will get you the download file for the tree. Then you just upload it here. The process is roughly the same for the DNA file. You will see when you got through the steps where you can select either tree or dna.

On here there is a section that says GEDCOM can upload the tree there. The is also a section here for uploading the DNA file...feel free to reach out to me if you run into any problems with the process. I look forward to speaking to you soon.

posted by Daron Rice

Thank you for joining our first ever Connecting Challenge and helping us create 2729 profiles!

You can add the participation sticker to your profile if you’d like. Connecting Challenge Stickers

We’ve started the March challenge here: March Connecting Challenge



It’s time for a Project check-in!

Scotland Project Leaders check in with you at least once a year to see how you are doing. With the changes happening around the world, we understand that life is hectic right now.

What are you planning to work on for the Scotland Project this year? Are you happy with the team(s) you part of, or would you like to make some changes?

This time round, we’re also looking for feedback on the use of Google Group and Discord. Do you use one or both of these? If you don’t use either of them, what is the best way to ensure you receive Project communications? If you would like to join us on Google Group or Discord, let us know in your response.

posted by Amy (Crawford) Gilpin
Thank you for the check-in Amy

I have so much I would like to discuss I will send you a private message. Looking forward to another year chipping away at my Scotland based brick walls and helping out with any untended incomplete profiles when and if I can.

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi, Rosalie, my fellow Greeter!

Thank you for adding your DNA to WikiTree. Getting the Best from DNA will tell you more about how DNA kits are used on WikiTree.

I hope this helps! If you have any questions or problems, let me know.

Take care,

Laura ~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by Laura DeSpain
Help. I'm new on this venue and less than 2 weeks on (with DNA). I did microfilm searches off and on for decades.

I spent hours last evening trying to add my mother (to my initial entry) and kept getting notices that there was contradictory information indicating she was both alive and dead. I gave up after midnight.

I'd also tried to find trees with any other known relatives (i.e. deceased maternal grandmother), again, zilch. There are loads of census records and obituaries, but I don't see other trees yet.

Is there something totally likely to have been missed in an eye's blink, something that assures failure of my attempts to add an entry for my mother?

posted by Diane (Scott) Hare
Hi Diane

I have sent you an email.

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Initial issue solved and you gave me guidance on my next stumbling block. I need to learn how to format sources/citations.
posted by Diane (Scott) Hare
I am still learning too - but happy to help if I can
posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
hi Rosalie,

I'm Julie :)

thank you for reaching out. at the moment I'm attempting to set up my family tree lol . its not as straight forward i thought it would be … nothing like the other genealogy sites lol but ill get there...… I think??!! lol. thank u so much though .. ill definitely take u up on your offer of assistance if I get too stuck :)

regards julie

posted by Julz (Morgan) Helper
Rosalie, thank you for the warm welcome. I do have a question for you about some notations I’ve seen in early English records. I wonder if these are somehow some rough dates, for example, 15 Henry VIII, 2 William the Conqueror, and so forth. Do these refer to the 2nd year of William’s reign, and the 15th year of Henry VIII’s reign, instead of using an actual year format we use today?
posted by Cass McDonough
Thank you for your question Cass because since I didn't know I also had to ask. One of our wonderful Wikitreers in the England Project (Laura) answered the question for both of us. Laura confirmed that yes, they refer to their regnal years.

At there is a tool that can help figure out the year Calendar Regnal Years. She tells us that you just add the regnal year (a month if you know it) and choose the King or Queen from the drop menu and have it convert it. It will even give you dual years for January through March.

On Wikitree there is always something new to learn

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
edited by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Thank you so much, both you and Laura! Dates were all I could figure out for those notations. Y’all have opened up several new sources for me. Sorry that I was repeating my question, but I’m unaware of protocols here, so far. As you said, we’re always learning something new here! 😊
posted by Cass McDonough
Thank you, Rosalie! I appreciate you taking the time to welcome me! I will be sure to reach out if I need any help.
posted by Mary Leachman
Good Morning Rosalie,

Thank you for your warm welcome to the WikiTree family and I will definitely reach out if I need any help or advice. Take care and have a super day : )


posted by Tiffany (Cole) Gloria
Hi Rosalie,

It's Claire Nava - WikiTree volunteer. I see your name fairly often in the feeds, so I thought I'd say "hi." Also, I was struck by the surname similarities. So Neve is native Australian? My husband's surname (and mine for close to fifty years), Nava, is from Mexico - likely from the Navas de Toloso in Spain, but records in Mexico are problematic.

That's it. Just following an impulse to stop by.

See you on the 'tree,


posted by Claire (Chapel) Nava
Thank you for stopping by Claire.

Neve is not a native Australian surname.

It is my ex-husband's French family roots surname.

Congratulations on nearly 50 years married.

Kind regards Rosalie

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
edited by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi Again

Is it Ok to include info on site about me and my relatives that is still alive? Not sure about cyber security and this site. Ann-Maree

posted by Ann-Maree Wilkinson Ms
Hi Ann Marie

At WikiTree, we aim to protect the privacy of all living individuals for their protection and in line with GDPR legislation.

WikiTree has excellent privacy controls, but that won’t protect you and your family if you publish your personal information, or the information of your living family members, in your biography.

Since WikiTree is a public website, I suggest not including dates and locations of life events and references to living individuals from your biography. If you create profiles for your family members instead, WikiTree’s automatic privacy controls will protect their information.

Did you know you can check what is visible to the public, by going to your profile and clicking on the Profile (public view) tab?

For further information about privacy, see

Many thanks

Rosalie ~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hello and thank you for accepting me on Wikitree. Can you tell me how to had my parents and grandparents, etc. to my family tree? Thank you so much, Kathy Sauceda
posted by Mary Katherine Kinslow
WikiTree is a wonderful community to be part of and I hope you get as much out of it as I am.

There are 3 levels of membership/participation of WikiTree (all are free). You are currently a Guest. If you wish to participate more it will require an upgrade in membership. For more information, please refer to this link:

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Just wanted to thank you Rosalie for greeting me and making me feel welcome upon entering wikitree. I suspect I am going to need your help for sure, I already messed up and am stuck. And your profile is Awesome!!!! So much information, I hope to someday have even a fourth of that under my name about me and my roots.
posted by Angela Esquibel
My pleasure Angela.

I am happy to help you wherever possible on your WikiTree journey. If you have specific questions just send me a personal email. If I cannot help you, I will do my best to put you in touch with someone who can. We are very lucky here. So many members are very generous with their time and knowledge. There is so much to learn and I still have a long way to go myself. Thank too for your very kind feedback on my profile.

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi Rosalie,

It's that time of the year again: check-in time! As England Project Leaders, we like to check in with you every six months or so to see how things are progressing. Back in May, we didn't ask for a response due to the rapid emergence of Covid-19 because we understood that people's lives were changing rapidly. While we are still living in a Covid world, we do need to hear back from you this time around

First of all, how are you doing? What are you currently working on? Are you happy with the team(s) you're in, or would you like to change things up?

Secondly, we're looking for some feedback on the Google Group and our Discord server. Do you use either or both of these? If you don't use either, why not? Do you have any suggestions on how we can improve participation and collaboration, either generally or for you personally?

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Lizzie, Amy, Joan

England Project Leaders

posted by Lizzie (Batman) Griffiths
edited by Lizzie (Batman) Griffiths
Hi, Rosalie!

Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.

Keep up the great work!

Pippin Sheppard WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Hi Rosalie,

The Australia Project leadership team are carrying out a check-in to see how you are going in the project and especially to thank you for all your work on Australian profiles on WikiTree. We really value your participation.

Please could you get back to me by private message to let me know if you are happy with your current role and team involvement within the project or if you would like to do something additional or different. Currently you are on the Indigenous Australians team. If you would like a change, you can check on the Australia Project page to see what other options there are.

It would also be great to hear any feedback and any suggestions that you have to improve the project. On a practical note, if you are a member of the google group, are you receiving messages ok? I do have your email you sent Gillian, so you only need to reply if there is anything else you would like to add.

Kind Regards

Margaret Haining Membership Coordinator

Rosalie, I am here through the Family News feature as well, it came to my attention after I finished reading Ambelin Kwaymullina's "Living on Stolen Land" which arrived today in the postbox. So now please accept many thank yous for moving your work to wikitree.

I note you are the closest connection I have had with anyone featured in the WikiTree Family News email. At 20 steps this is a record for me, and is only three marriages distant (practically in-laws) (Knight-Gardner, Senior-Mison and Mison-Gallop). I wish you well.

Nice to make contact with a fellow Wikitreer who is not so distant by degrees. Thank you for stopping by and for the kind wishes.
posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
As simply as I can put it, your Great Great Aunt Martha married Ninian Gardner, who is first cousin once removed to Ellen Senior who married George Mison, who was nephew to Ephraim Mison who married my second cousin twice removed Coralie Gallup.
Through your Family News feature today, I discovered Kübler relatives of my mother who migrated from Germany to Australia. My branch of the family came to the US. Thank you for your faithful work on the Indigenous Australians Project. Best wishes from a distant connection. Jane
posted by Jane (Snell) Copes
Hello, Rosalie!

Thanks for all the work you accomplished during our Connect-A-Thon 2020. It is amazing how many more profiles were created and added to our Shared Tree. You have every right to be pleased with your efforts!

Kind regards,

Pippin Sheppard ~ WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Welcome to the Scotland project. I hope you get a great deal of pleasure collaborating with colleagues in this great project. If you have any questions or wish any advice either send me a private message or email me.
Looking forward to learning on the Tartan Trail
posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi Rosalie,

Re Holmes-11364 - Do you know when your auntie Shirley married? Was she Dennis' second wife? And did Dennis already have any children? Kind regards, SueCD.

posted by Sue (Armitage) Carlson Dunn
edited by Sue (Armitage) Carlson Dunn
Hi Rosalie,

Thanks for replying. I don't think that we have a connection here: Dennis was married to Olga Armitage (a very distant cousin) who died in Sydney in 1969; they had three children Brian, Michael and Raymond. Brian was the source of my information for this part of the extended family tree and I'm sure he would have mentioned if his father had remarried.

Kind regards, and good luck with your search, SueCD.

Thank you :-) Your prompt responses and collaboration has been greatly appreciated.
posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi Rosalie!

One of our mentors created a tutorial for the GEDCOMpare process that others found very helpful. I hope that you will too.

If you have any questions about how WikiTree works, let us know by using the "reply" link under our comments, or by clicking our names to visit our profiles. From there, you can leave a comment, or send a private message.

Cheryl ~~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by Cheryl (Smith) Hess
Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!!  :) - that's so much easier than trying to reduce my current online private ancestry tree to under 5000 people (and yes I did start deleting from a copy of the tree- only wasted enough time to delete around 800 odd and had 2000 to go.

What can I say in my defence - I learn best by having a go at something.

posted by Rosalie (Martin) Neve
Hi Rosalie

Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz. As Pre-1700 ancestors are shared by many descendants, working within a project is essential you are already in the Australia projects but you have created profile born in England below are some links for this project

Please ensure locations are entered on all profiles you have a number with no locations. The location data should match dates of profile. Avoid abbreviations, add sources with citations & links for sources to support the data. From wiki ID go to Research to find sources.  Sources & England Reliable Sources and [please review this page  Reliable Pre-1700 sources} 

The England Project may be of interest. Adding the tag  ENGLAND will provide updates about the project.  Follow this link for your Tags:   your tags  Also explore  Also explore  County Teams other pages to explore are the  England Pages England Pages Explore Pre-1700 Projects list to find one to fits your research focus,

Questions ask Here To contact me, be sure to use the "reply" link for this comment so that I will be notified. You can also click my name to send a private message, or post a comment, on my profile page.   

Janet ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

PS Links not working, click them in your comment box 

posted by Janet (Langridge) Wild
Hi Rosalie

As you have been a member of WikiTree for a few weeks now, I thought I would check in to see how you are getting on with the site.

Has the New Member How-To been helpful, or left you with any questions?

I am here to help with any problems or queries you may have. To contact me, be sure to use the "reply" link below this comment so that I will be notified. Alternatively, you can click my name to visit my profile, where you can send a private message, or post a comment on my profile page.

Sometimes links don't work in emails. If that's happened to you, check the public comments on your profile. The links will work from there.

Wendy ~ WikiTree Greeter

Hi Rosalie, Welcome to the Australia Project. We are so delighted that you have joined us. I'll be looking forward to working with you. Gillian, co-Leader, Australia Project
posted by Gillian Thomas
I am pleased to welcome you to WikiTree! Thank you for upgrading. You are now ready to add and edit profiles.

Click here to start with New Member How-To. They will save you time, energy as you add your family profiles.

I hope you enjoy WikiTree as much as I do.

If you have questions about how WikiTree works, let me know. You can use the "reply" link under this comment or click my name, then ask in the comment section of my page.

Gilly ~ WikiTree Greeter

P.S. Sometimes links don't work in emails. If that's happened to you, check the public comments on your profile, as the links will work from there.

posted on Neve-185 (merged) by [Living Wood]

This is just a note to say hello and to let you know that I'm available to answer questions about joining WikiTree.

To contact me, reply to this comment using the link. You can also click my name above, then send a private message or post a comment on my profile page.

Gilly ~ WikiTree Greeter

P.S. If links do not work in an email from WikiTree, try them from the comment section on your profile page.

posted on Neve-185 (merged) by [Living Wood]