Rosalie (Martin) Neve
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I am the eldest of my family and the first female in my matrilineal line in Australia, to be educated formally at school. I am also the first of the women in my family born on Gumbainggirr land to be and to identify as an Aboriginal person and to be accepted as such by the Aboriginal community I live and work in. I have always had a keen interest in family history and my fathers family tree has been passed on to me by word of mouth from my father and others over decades since I was about 8 years old. I am an Aboriginal cultural heritage specialist and educator and I enjoy opportunities to work with and for Aboriginal communities on all matters relating to Aboriginal cultural values and family lines. I was educated through St Mary's Bellingen, Bellingen High School, University of New England and Flinders University. When my first child was arriving I opted to be a 'stay at home parent' until my children were at school and in the care of others for large sections of the day. When they were I had time to complete my university studies and pursue ongoing employment. I graduated with a Bachelor of Arts majoring in archaeology and paleoanthropogy on my mother’s 70 birthday in October 2007. While working as an archaeologist for the NSW government in 2008 I started post graduate studies with Flinders University in Cultural Heritage Management. I have lived mostly in Bellingen until a short-term 18 month contract with Griffith University in Brisbane as the project officer for their ongoing Indigenising their curriculum project took me to Queensland in 2008. In March 2010 I started working in Coffs Harbour again for the same agency I started with in 2007 for a 3-month contract and started commuting weekly by car from my new home in Queensland to my old home in Bellingen. However, that has evolved into ongoing employment over the years in a number of different roles in Aboriginal cultural heritage regulation.
In 2017 at the request of other family members who were also the descendants of Jack and Jesse Cook I was their contact officer for the purposes of registering the family's Aboriginal corporation with the Office of the Registrar of Indigenous. Corporations Cook Family of Barrington.
Between July 2020 and December 2021 I was working for the NSW Department of Premier & Cabinet in a work from home capacity in Queensland as part of the COVID response.
I accepted a voluntary redundance offer and left the Department on 13 December 2021. I am currently the contact officer for the Cook family of Barrington and an Indigenous representative on the Australian Archaeological Association's national executive.
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Eileen Grieve
Once again it is time for our annual Ireland Project check-in.
1. Would you like to continue as a member of the project?
2. Do you have any suggestions for project priorities in the next year?
3. Do you have any interest in taking a more active role in the project and, if so, what might you be interested in doing?
A response to the check-in is one of the project’s few requirements for all members. Please either post a reply below or send me a private message on WikiTree. If we don’t hear from you, we’ll assume your interests have changed and you no longer have time to participate in the project.
Thank you for all of your contributions to WikiTree and to the Ireland Project.
Gach beannacht,
Jen, Ireland Project co-leader
Thank you for contributing towards the goals of the England Project! Over the past year, a staggering amount has been done to improve English profiles on WikiTree and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.
The England Project leadership like to check in with all our project members at least once a year.
Are you happy to stay in your current project team/s? Or is there another team you would like to join or become more active in?
Please reply to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you. Please also let us know if you have other feedback about the direction of the project.
Many thanks!
Joan, on behalf of the England Project leadership
Thank you so much for joining the Southern Cross Stars for the Connect-a-Thon this weekend. There is information on the Southern Cross Stars page, and our chat post at https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1682615 . We'll be chatting during the Thon on the new Aussie Challenge Teams Discord channel. You can message me any time if you have any other questions. I'm always happy to help! Gillian, Southern Cross Stars Team Leader
for that very appropriate and helpful tip on working with pre-1800 ancestors. I will certainly keep it in mind as I venture into what is so far fairly "blank" territory for me. I do have a lot of questions and very few answers about where to find any records of what was happening in my ancestors' lives during this time period.
James Shuman
Thank you for your commitment to the England Project and its goals in 2023! Together we are making English WikiTree profiles the best they can be!
I'd like to share our end-of-year 2023 Newsletter. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading about what we have achieved in 2023!
On behalf of all the England Project Leaders, we wish you a peaceful, productive and enjoyable 2024!
Best wishes,
Joan, England Project Leader
We're contacting you for the annual Australia Project membership checkin. We really appreciate your involvement in the Project in the last year. Thank you so much for all your help to improve Australian profiles on WikiTree.
Please could you reply to this message, or send me a private message to let us know if you'd like to stay on in the Project, and if you'd like to make any changes to the teams that you belong to. The teams are listed on Australia Project Teams.
If you've moved on to other things for the moment, that's absolutely fine. We'd appreciate if you'd let us know so that we can remove you from the membership list.
We're always happy to receive any ideas or suggestions that you have to make our project even better.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
The Australia Project Leadership Team ~ Gillian, Margaret and Veronica
Regards, Margaret
It is once again time for our annual Scotland Project check-in. Please respond within the next three weeks to let us know:
•If you would like to continue as a project member •If you are happy with your current teams or would you like to join a different team •How much time per month (on average) you spend working on Scottish profiles •Anything you’d like the Scotland Project to do more of in the future
You can respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. If we don’t hear from you within the next three weeks we’ll assume your interests have changed or you are no longer able to participate in the Scotland Project at this time, and your badge will be removed. If your circumstances change later you will be welcome to reapply for membership.
On behalf of the Scotland Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve Scottish profiles!
Sheena - Scotland Project Membership Coordinator
Yes I would like to continue in the Scotland Project.
I am happy in the Scotland - Scottish Diaspora - Australia Team. I would also like to join the Scotland - Kirkcudbrightshire Team if they are recruiting please.
I spend around 4 to 6 hours a month working on Scottish profiles, most of them outside of Scotland for their life events following birth.
I have no suggestions on future directions at this time. If I think of anything I will input it then.
Kind regards Rosalie
Thanks for your reply.
I've asked Amy to add you to the Kirkcudbrightshire team - it's one of the smaller county teams!
Sheena
It is once again time for our annual Ireland Project check-in. Please respond within the next three weeks to let us know:
You can respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. If we don’t hear from you within the next three weeks we’ll assume your interests have changed or you no longer are able to participate in the Ireland Project at this time, and your badge will be removed. If your circumstances change later you will be welcome to reapply for membership.
Many thanks for all that so many of you have contributed to the project in the past year, and very special thanks to those who answered the project’s call and gave generously of their time to be part of Team Seanchaithe during the most recent connect-a-thon. We are looking forward to hearing from you.
le dea-mhéin, Jen Hutton, Ireland Project co-leader
1. I would like to contine as an Ireland Project member going forward and my current interest in the Diaspora Team (focus on Australia) remains my priority.
2. I think that maintenance/improvement/creation of at least 5 profiles annually is not unreasonable.
3. Over the last year I have spent at least 1-5 hours per month on average on Ireland Project matters and I enjoyed being part of the Irish team during the April connect-a-thon.
4. I am not sure I am the right person to answer for future proposals as I have been working on a free space page for about a year for The Irish of Bakers Flat in South Australia and still have not progressed it from a word doc on my computer to something on WikiTree.
Kindest regards Rosalie Neve
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I am new to wikitree. Thomas Lethbridge is my Great-Great Grandfather. His son Thomas married Charlotte Gard. One of their daughters Pearl had a daughter Venetia ( Vineta ) who is my mother's mother. Venetia passed when my mother and her brother Allan were very young. They were adopted out separately and lost contact and never reunited. Anywho my siblings and cousin are looking to fill in some gaps and maybe photos of any of our Ancestors. If you can help in anyway it would be most appreciated.
Thanking you in advance. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Kind Regards
Julia
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members periodically to make sure everything is going well. This is our formal annual check-in with you.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Would you like to join any other teams?
Also, we would really like to hear which team is currently your highest priority. If you are a member of more than one team, could you please rank them from highest priority to lowest? Thank you! If you don’t see yourself as being part of a team, please let us know.
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
On behalf of all the Leaders, thank you again for all you do and we look forward to you continuing to be a part of our collaborative and fun Project!
Kind regards,
Joan, England Project Leader
I am currently part of the Orphan Trail Team and the Kent County team. I do have interests in and contribute where I can to a number of other County teams and general profile and tree improvement.
I am happy with my current team choices and they keep me busy enough. :)
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I am glad that everything is Ok and that you are happy. Thank you for your work on WikiTree. Regards Joan
I am looking forward to working together going forward and I love our discord channels.
Thank you for all your profile-creating in the April 2023 Connect-a-Thon, Rosalie. The Irish Seanchaithe appreciate all your efforts!
I hope you and yours are all safe and well, Take care, Mindy
1) someone may have not gotten that far yet, 2) WikiTree depends on *documentary* evidence, and it is possible that that kind of evidence is not present for those profiles to be created.
If you have evidence for the existence of missing ancestors, then you are free to add those ancestors with links to the document proving the data.
Hope this helps,
Pippin Sheppard - WikiTree Greeter
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
I'd also like to share our annual Newsletter with you. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading a bit about what has gone on in 2022 and what our Project has achieved.
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members every 6 months just to make sure everything is going well. There's no need to reply to this message unless you have something you'd like to let us know about (e.g. if you would like to change your team choices or provide other feedback). We will be in touch with you again in the middle of next year when we do our annual check-in with project members.
On behalf of all the Leaders, I wish you a peaceful and productive 2023.
Best wishes,
Amelia, England Project Leader
Thank you for the welcome email. I only registered this morning so have not yet had the time to explore properly but will do so very soon. I have dipped in and out of my family tree for several years but now that I have more time on my hands, I'm getting back into it. Karen.
It's time for the annual Australia Project membership checkin. Thank you so much for contributing to the project and Australian profiles on WikiTree during the last year. We really appreciate you!
If you would like to stay in the project, please reply to this message or send me a private message to let us know that you would like to stay on. Alternatively, if your WikiTree and research interests have moved away from Australia, please let us know and we can remove you from the membership list for the moment. You will, of course, be very welcome to rejoin the project down the track whenever you want to.
We are also keen to know if you want to make any changes to the team or teams that you want to focus on. Take a look on Australia Project Teams to see what teams there are to choose from. If you want to discuss this, or have any questions or suggestions about the Australia Project we'd love to hear your ideas.
Thanks for taking the time to get back to us!
Gillian, co-Leader, Australia Project
We are all so glad you are a part of our project! On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!
The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
Many thanks!
Maddy, England Project Leader
For now I am happy to continue with the teams I am already in.
I am learning so much but there is still much to learn.
Maddy
This year we are hoping to learn what our membership would like to accomplish over the next 12 months.
In case you aren't aware, this year is WikiTree's ""Year of Connections"" and the Project's leadership would like to contribute to this in as many ways as possible.
We would appreciate it if you would share your thoughts and ideas with us on how we can accomplish this goal. We would also appreciate it if you would provide some feedback on our existing goals, including:
We continue to communicate with our Project members via Google Group (official) and Discord (unofficial), as well as G2G. You may also reach out to any of the Project leaders via WikiTree's internal messaging system at any time.
Thank you for all you do to help the Scotland Project become a knowledge hub for Scottish genealogical research! We wish you all the best in 2022!
Sincerely, Amy Gilpin on behalf of the Scotland Project Leaders
It’s time for our annual Ireland Project check-in! Please respond within the next two weeks to let me know:
Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. If we don’t hear from you within two weeks, we will assume you are no longer interested in participating in the Ireland Project, and your badge will be removed. If you wish to reapply for membership later, we will be happy to have you back. Many thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you!
Sincerely,
Jen Hutton, on behalf of the Ireland Project
If so - this Find a Grave link may provide hints to information that is not currently on his WikiTree profile: Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 17 February 2022), memorial page for Joseph Rutley (4 Feb 1788–1861), Find a Grave Memorial ID 185049240, citing Martins Anglican Cemetery, Newington, Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry United Counties, Ontario, Canada ; Maintained by Joan Donnelly Ellis (contributor 48058555) Cremated, Other https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185049240/joseph-rutley
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Sutherland as I had not registered first.) Catherine Allen (nee Grace)
See the Help for DNA Confirmation for directions. Try the DNA Confirmation Citation Maker with your match to see how it should look.
Thank you.
The Australia Project leadership team are carrying out our annual check-in to see how you are going in the project. We'd really like to give you a huge thank you for all your work on Australian profiles over the past year! We've made great progress in 2020/21 with your assistance.
Please could you reply to this message, to let us know if you would like to stay on in the project and if you are happy with your current role and team involvement.
If you would like to do something additional or different, take a look on the Australia Project page to see what other opportunities there are.
It would also be great to get any feedback or suggestions that you have to improve the project.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Gillian, Co-leader, Australia Project
I am happy with my current role and team involvement. I love the way that collaboration within the Australia Project (and accross other projects) means that I can follow my interests as my own family research progresses.
Just to be clear, no charge is incurred if one clicks on an item, such as the red colored "place" bullet and then program pulls up a screen that is not the record desired but an intervening step requiring user's input...? Thank again for your time. RD Kenney
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Thank you again. RD Kenney
Do you have any Martin family in western New York State? I have fairly distant cousins that lived in Western New York by the last name of Martin
I honestly do not know where any of my Martin relatives may be.
My great grandfather married my great grandmother, a local Aboriginal woman in a small country town in New South Wales Australia in 1915. We have evidence he was in the country here for at least 7 years before they married. Nothing else about his life before that times is currently known.
They raised my father and his younger siblings. My father was encouraged to recite his Aboriginal family tree from childhood. He could list off his grandmother's parents and her siblings and all their known families.
For my great grandfather he was told very little. The few bits he was told he repeated word for word. He told me that his grandfather would say "I was born in Glasgow but my family didn't live there. MY father's name was Thomas Martin, I am Thomas Martin and I have a son Thomas Martin".
The certificate evidence he left in this Country records his parents as Thomas Martin and Catherine McGuire. He died in 1950 and was believed to be 80 years old.
I would love to explore the possibility of cousins I have not yet found. I have taken a DNA test through Ancestry if that ever helps solve the mystery.
Kind regards Rosalie
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Thank you for contributing to my tree during the WikiTree Challenge this week! Yvette Hoitink
I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the goals of the England Project during the past six months. We've achieved a huge amount during this period and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.
As the England Project Leaders, we are completing our six monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to stay in your current project team(s)? Which team(s) are you most active in? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
Also, do you have any feedback on what the project is doing well and anything we could do better in the future?
Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks!
Nic, England Project Leader
I enjoy working on the English lines in the WikiTree Challenge as well as my own family ones. I think this is being done well. Not sure what else to add at this time.
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Here is a link to Ancestry's instruction on downloading a GEDCOM from Ancestry. It takes some time to download a GEDCOM. Once it has downloaded, you can then upload it on WikiTree. It will take some time to upload and you will get a message emailed to you when it is ready. The GEDCOM will not automatically populate your tree. It generates a GEDCOMpare report which you work through, either accepting or rejecting, suggested matches. This link is very helpful when working through your report GEDCOMpare Process
This is time-consuming, though can be worth it in the end. Unlike other sites, where there are many trees, WikiTree is a single tree, so checking before uploading will save you the effort of having to merge duplicate profiles later. This process allows you to look for existing profiles that can save you a lot of time later.
Once you have completed the match/reject review in the GEDCOMpare process, an Add button will appear beside the remaining records in your GEDCOM. That Add button will let you create new profiles without having to type everything. It is still a one by one process because the data needs to be reviewed for completeness and sources.
If you have more than 5,000 names, you will need to split your tree.splitting a tree
If your Ancestry tree is more than 5,000 people, you have to download your tree as a GEDCOM, then upload it to Ancestry as a duplicate tree, or upload it to a desktop program, then remove records until you have less than 5,000 names. You then download this as a GEDCOM and then you can upload it on WikiTree. Then you do the same with the remaining names.
We do not download DNA Data on WikiTree. We do enter our DNA testing information and it is very easy to do. On the top right of most pages, there is an active button "ADD". If you hover over that button there is a drop-down box and the first item is DNA. Click on that and follow the instructions. You can enter your testing company and the type of test such as Y-DNA, mtDNA, or Autosomal (Family Finder): Ancestry, FTDNA, My Heritage, and GedMatch are examples of the companies. You will also add your identifying information such as the kit # for FTDNA.
If you have already entered ancestors it will take about 24 hours for your test information to populate those profiles. As you add more profiles the information will continue to show up on all the appropriate ancestors' profiles. I hope this helps, any problems please let me know
Take care
Rosalie ~ WikiTree Greeter
1. Click on your account picture in the top right corner.
2. Click site settings
3. On the site settings page, scroll to the far right, and click on help.
4. In the help menu, click on download account data.
5. On the Requesting a download of your account data page, scroll down to the section that says Requesting your tree data, the click the link that says click here
6. Under the family tree Data section, click the request button
7. Click the download link
That will get you the download file for the tree. Then you just upload it here. The process is roughly the same for the DNA file. You will see when you got through the steps where you can select either tree or dna.
On here there is a section that says GEDCOM uploads...you can upload the tree there. The is also a section here for uploading the DNA file...feel free to reach out to me if you run into any problems with the process. I look forward to speaking to you soon.
Thank you for joining our first ever Connecting Challenge and helping us create 2729 profiles!
You can add the participation sticker to your profile if you’d like. Connecting Challenge Stickers
We’ve started the March challenge here: March Connecting Challenge
Emma
It’s time for a Project check-in!
Scotland Project Leaders check in with you at least once a year to see how you are doing. With the changes happening around the world, we understand that life is hectic right now.
What are you planning to work on for the Scotland Project this year? Are you happy with the team(s) you part of, or would you like to make some changes?
This time round, we’re also looking for feedback on the use of Google Group and Discord. Do you use one or both of these? If you don’t use either of them, what is the best way to ensure you receive Project communications? If you would like to join us on Google Group or Discord, let us know in your response.
I have so much I would like to discuss I will send you a private message. Looking forward to another year chipping away at my Scotland based brick walls and helping out with any untended incomplete profiles when and if I can.
Thank you for adding your DNA to WikiTree. Getting the Best from DNA will tell you more about how DNA kits are used on WikiTree.
I hope this helps! If you have any questions or problems, let me know.
Take care,
Laura ~ WikiTree Greeter
I spent hours last evening trying to add my mother (to my initial entry) and kept getting notices that there was contradictory information indicating she was both alive and dead. I gave up after midnight.
I'd also tried to find trees with any other known relatives (i.e. deceased maternal grandmother), again, zilch. There are loads of census records and obituaries, but I don't see other trees yet.
Is there something totally likely to have been missed in an eye's blink, something that assures failure of my attempts to add an entry for my mother?
I have sent you an email.
I'm Julie :)
thank you for reaching out. at the moment I'm attempting to set up my family tree lol . its not as straight forward i thought it would be … nothing like the other genealogy sites lol but ill get there...… I think??!! lol. thank u so much though .. ill definitely take u up on your offer of assistance if I get too stuck :)
regards julie
At https://aulis.org/Calendar/Regnal_Years.html there is a tool that can help figure out the year Calendar Regnal Years. She tells us that you just add the regnal year (a month if you know it) and choose the King or Queen from the drop menu and have it convert it. It will even give you dual years for January through March.
On Wikitree there is always something new to learn
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