Pam (Cormac) Cormac Smith
Honor Code SignatorySigned 2 Aug 2014 | 60,755 contributions | 8,005 thank-yous | 2,300 connections
Signed 2 Aug 2014 | 60,755 contributions | 8,005 thank-yous | 2,300 connections
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Pam Cormac Smith formerly Cormac
Born 1980s.
Ancestors 
Daughter of Dave Cormac
and Sharon (Foulis) Cormac
Sister of
[private brother (1980s - unknown)], [private sister (1980s - unknown)], [private brother (1990s - unknown)] and [private sister (2000s - unknown)]
[children unknown]
Profile last modified
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Biography
Pam (Cormac) Cormac Smith has Scottish Ancestors.
Pam (Cormac) Cormac Smith is genealogies verbind aan Suid Afrika /is genealogically connected to South Africa
Pam was featured in a Meet Our Members Post on the G2G Forum!
Pam (Cormac) Cormac Smith has completed the England Project's Post 1700 Orphan Trail I.
WikiTree Day Attendee: 2022
en
This user is a native speaker of English.
Genealogical Interests
All things/people genealogical.
Pam has completed the Profile Improvement Project's Voyage
Pam is a Voyager Guide for the Profile Improvement Project
I love WikiTree because it celebrates our connectedness in the best way - our shared familytree! And collaboration just makes it so much more fun.
I've always loved history so I wasn't surprised when I was bitten by the genealogy bug.
I'd like to encourage anyone who wants to chat about our tree to contact me, I'm always available. I also love helping people, so if you have a question about how WikiTree works please don't be shy to reach out to me.
Projects that I'm currently busy with are:
- Cemeteries: Cato Ridge Lutheran Church and Cato Ridge Methodist Church
- Ambassadors
- South African Anglo Boer War 1899-1902
- South African Roots Project
- Mentors
- Cape Dutch Colony (1652-1806)
- PIP Voyage
- Profile Improvement Project
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Free Space Profiles
Need some help creating Free Space Profiles? I totally love FSP's! This isn't an official WikiTree help page, just something that I threw together to help some people out. I figured that I'd try to spread the love of Free Space Profiles and would attempt to inspire you to create one for yourself. See my quick and easy Free Space Profile tutorial here.
My Biggest Brick Wall
Cormac
My greatest brick wall, and I wish I could just crack it a little is my Cormac branch. I can find no record of Robert Cormac before his marriage to Sarah Jane Campbell on 30 Jan 1891, his parents are both deceased by the time of this marriage and are named in the record.
His parents are again named in Robert's Death Notice. However, I have found no other records to back up this information. Roberts parents are named as George Cormac (Plate Layer) and Mary Fraser (formerly Cormac, born Stephens).
I have researched every Robert *corm* born between 1859 and 1862 in the statutory registers on scotlandspeople.gov.uk (there are 10), and he is not there. I can also find no record for a marriage between George *corm* and any Stephens or Stevens.
In the 1891 Scotland census Robert claims to have been born in Roslin, Midlothian, and according to the census, marriage, shiplist and death notice he was born in 1860-1861. He was also a widower at the time of his marriage to Sarah Jane Campbell in 1891, Coatbridge - residence Browns Building, Gartsherrie Road. In June/July 1891 Robert Cormac and Sarah Jane Campbell left Scotland and headed to South Africa aboard the Trojan.
An old family tale I was told a few times as a child was that Arthur David Cormac changed the family surname from Mc Cormack to Cormac when he immigrated to South Africa. I have been able to prove that Arthur was born in South Africa and had always carried the name Cormac, however I often find that family tales are like legends - rooted in truth but get distorted over time.
My grandfather Len Cormac (1936-2020) told me that when he was a young boy/man he would write to a cousin named Robert Watt in Scotland who was around the same age, Robert was the son of David and Helen Watt. I have a photo of David and Helen taken in about the early 1970's. This is the only clue that I have. Just a note that I'm not sure whether is relevant or not: a witness at Robert and Sarah's wedding was Robert Watt.
Any help on this tree would be greatly appreciated.
Advance Directive
- Digital Afterlife
- It may seem morbid, but in the event of my untimely demise I want to be sure that none of my hard work on WikiTree ends up being deleted. While I fully intend on being around to manage all my profiles for the next 80 years or so, in the event of my sudden death I hereby give permission for all of my private profiles to be transferred to any of the following slightly-active WikiTreers in my family, whether or not they are currently on the trusted lists:
- Gillian (Roberts) Smith (first choice as she is an active contributor)
- Samantha Jane Brownlie (second choice as she is an active contributor)
- Sharon Cormac
- Shannon Cormac
- Lauren Cormac
Sources
Only the Trusted List can access the following:
- Pam's formal name
- e-mail address
- exact birthdate
- birth location
- images (3)
- private siblings' names
- spouse's name and marriage information
DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Pam by comparing test results with other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Pam by comparing test results with other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
- Nicoline (Krüger) van der Merwe
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AncestryDNA Maternal Lineage (discontinued) HVR1 and HVR2, haplogroup J - Petrus Boshoff :
Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test Full Sequence, haplogroup J2a1a1, FTDNA kit #291336
- Danie Bezuidenhout :
Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test HVR1 and HVR2, haplogroup J2a1a1e, FTDNA kit #IN18719
- Sarel Jacob du Plessis :
Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test Full Sequence, haplogroup J2a1a1e, FTDNA kit #744197
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~3.12%
Kayla Fourie :
AncestryDNA, Ancestry member kaylabeth41
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~0.78%
~6.25%
Grant Dickinson :
23andMe
Have you taken a DNA test? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Ancestry DNA.
Genealogist-to-Genealogist (G2G) Forum posts about Pam:
- Pam Cormac Smith is a Wonderful WikiTreer Jun 12, 2022.
- Pam Cormac Smith is a Wonderful WikiTreer May 27, 2022.
- Pam Cormac Smith is a Wonderful WikiTreer Mar 31, 2022.
- Pam Cormac Smith is a Wonderful WikiTreer Mar 18, 2022.
- Pam Cormac Smith is a Wonderful WikiTreer! Thank you for welcoming me. Mar 17, 2022.
- Pam Cormac Smith is a Wonderful WikiTreer Feb 23, 2022.
Featured National Park champion connections: Pam is 20 degrees from Theodore Roosevelt, 12 degrees from Stephanus Johannes Paulus Kruger, 20 degrees from George Catlin, 23 degrees from Marjory Douglas, 28 degrees from Sueko Embrey, 20 degrees from George Grinnell, 20 degrees from Anton Kröller, 23 degrees from Stephen Mather, 23 degrees from Kara McKean, 24 degrees from John Muir, 19 degrees from Victoria Hanover and 33 degrees from Charles Young on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.
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Categories: Cormac-6 | South African Roots Project | South Africa Research Assistance | Anglo Boer War Projectmembers | Voyager Guides | PIP Graduates | WikiTree Leaders | WikiTree Day Attendees | En | Af-1
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Thank you for your commitment to the England Project and its goals in 2023! Together we are making English WikiTree profiles the best they can be!
I'd like to share our end-of-year 2023 Newsletter. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading about what we have achieved in 2023!
On behalf of all the England Project Leaders, we wish you a peaceful, productive and enjoyable 2024!
Best wishes,
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Best Regards,
Maddy
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members periodically to make sure everything is going well. This is our formal annual check-in with you.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Would you like to join any other teams?
Also, we would really like to hear which team is currently your highest priority. If you are a member of more than one team, could you please rank them from highest priority to lowest? Thank you! If you don’t see yourself as being part of a team, please let us know.
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I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
On behalf of all the Leaders, thank you again for all you do and we look forward to you continuing to be a part of our collaborative and fun Project!
Kind regards,
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Have uploaded my Gedcom from My Heritage although my main tree is on FamSearch. How do you add the gedcom data to the tree on Wiki? Surely the gedcom data becomes the tree on Wiki? You don't have to add one by one do you?
Thank u kindly,
See you in the chat
We've put together a survey for you to fill out to check in with you, it will only take a moment as there are only a few questions. Filling out the survey lets us know you are still interested in coordinating your study and provides an opportunity for you to share any suggestions you may have for the project.
If you have decided to step away from your study, please reply to this comment to that effect.
🤓🤗
My X-husband’s sister.
We are delighted to have you on our team !
Pleas post all your remarks and/or questions here Chat Room
Have you registered for the April 2023 Connect-a-Thon yet?
Please join the South African Springboks is our quest we will have lots of fun while we upgrade our South African team
The link to follow is : https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1553800/have-you-registered-for-the-april-2023-connect-a-thon-yet?show=1555665#c1555665
Looking forward to see you there
Warm regards
Just a heads up and to give you time to prepare should you like to join in the fun
The next spring Connect-a-Thon will be 21-24 April 2023
Warm regards Ronel
Thank you so much for the headsup...It's my sons 18th that weekend so I won't be able to be there for the entire thon but I'll definitely pop my head in as often as I can.
Warm regards ~ Pam
I sent you an email on 31 Jan with the subject line Profile Improvement Project. Hopefully it didn't go into your 'spam' mail. Would you please let me know if you received it.
Thanks,
Robin
Her mother was Catharina Lavia (born Fourie). The daughter should read as (born Holiday) married to Baker as you entered. How can we merge these 2. It will cause a problem as she is registered under Fourie.
She is one of the children in the Boer Concentration camp with her mother Catharina Lavia Holliday. Our line is through her first son born to Christina Maria Gertruida Noordman. Thanks Sue
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
I'd also like to share our annual Newsletter with you. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading a bit about what has gone on in 2022 and what our Project has achieved.
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members every 6 months just to make sure everything is going well. There's no need to reply to this message unless you have something you'd like to let us know about (e.g. if you would like to change your team choices or provide other feedback). We will be in touch with you again in the middle of next year when we do our annual check-in with project members.
On behalf of all the Leaders, I wish you a peaceful and productive 2023.
Best wishes,
Joan, England Project Leader
News and update on the ABW project by Marco Nel
Read all about it here: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/320578/anglo-boere-oorlog-second-boer-war and Here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Anglo_Boer_War
Do join the conversation if you had family members that was involved in this battle
Warm regards Ronel [SA Roots leader]
Baie dankie jy is 'n ster !!
Oh that is so cool, we seem to swim in all the same waters! ...and I think you're right, I need to hunt in Ireland now.
It's great to meet you, and thanks for the message, I hope we bump into each other often 😊
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Will you join us?
To register, just click the ANSWER button and say "Sign me up!" and include South Africa team Springbokke
It would be great to "see" you there!
Kindest Regards ~ Ronel ~ South African Roots Leader
Looking forward to have you on our team.
We are going to have lots of fun !!!
Baie dankie vir jou belangstelling in ons projek en wonderlike hulp wat jy bereid is om nuwe lede te bied.
Jou tyd en insette maak 'n groot verskil en word hoog op prys gestel
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!
The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
Many thanks!
Ian, England Project Leader
I'm super happy with my current team choices 😊
Thanks
Ian
Thank you so much for your email. I'm a new starter at family searching for the Barnes/Brown/Chirgwin/McCabe families. I started back in 2017 and decided to leave it for a while. It opens up a new world solving and searching for our ancestors. I just wish I'd asked my mother some more questions when I was younger. Once again, thank you kindly for your help. Yours sincerely Judi Barnes
I am the several times grand-daughter of John Bunyan Orr and Rebecca Kesiah Ann C. Scot Mary Ellen Orem
It's so exciting as it sounds like you have made your first connections on WikiTree already, you must send a private message to the profile manager or place a public comment on the profiles of your great grandparents for him to see - he is also a descendant and I am sure he'll be over the moon to "meet" you too.
Another fantastic tool is the RootsSearch Tool, you'll find a clickable link at the bottom of the right hand column of any open profile.
My favourite thing of all about the profiles on WikiTree is the bio box - what a fantastic way to tell an ancestor's story.
Enjoy the rabbit hole, and holler if there's anything that I can do to help •*¨*.¸.•*¨*🐰
18 April 1843 – Deceased • G682-SDC born in Odanak Village or Ste Francis du Luc Yamaska Canada married a woman named Obeline Genest also Quebec or Odanak Village..her dob: est. 1855-1883 Here is where it gets thorny: Its listed as they had 6 children at least and one of the eldest was my great grandmother Sarana (Marie) deGonzague. That would be fine, except that all the records I can find (Heritage, Ancestry & Family Research- Geni say that the children are all hers including the ones born after she died which is at least 4 of them. Her mother is named: Scholastique Garneau (French) Loretteville Quebec and father: Joseph Genest 1835.
I found a marriage page for them and wonder if I can sent it to you somehow? Its all in the French language, (one paragraph and may clue us in to whether he married a 2nd time or if she is truly the mother of the 2 eldest after all. Please let me know, if you are interested or who else I might interest with helping me. The church record may be his baptism with his parents listed on it in French pg. 170 - Canada, Quebec Catholic P...rish Registers, 1621-1979 Saint-François-du-Lac Saint-François-du-Lac Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1836-1847 .... I know his father's name was also Jean "Baptiste" de Gonzague. thanks in advance, Deborah
I wish that I could help, but unfortunately I don't speak or read French, however an idea might be for you to upload the document here on Wikitree to your ancestors profile or to a Free Space Profile, then post a question in G2G (use great tags in the provided box, such as the surnames and "France" so that members of the France Project will be alerted to your question.) Put as much information as you can into the profiles and G2G post as you can. There is a separate field for you to paste in the URL of either the document/image, your ancestors profile, or the Free Space Profile, this way members can click the link to go straight where they need to.
If you need any help with this at all send me a private message.
The Profile Improvement Project (PIP) is performing its first annual check-in with our project members. We are in the process of transitioning to a team structure. There will be three participant PIP Teams to start -- The Maintenance Category Team, the Unknowns Team, and the Biography Team. Thanks so much for leading the Voyage Team who guide new Voyagers. See the Profile Improvement Project Teams for a brief outline of each team. We would also like to invite you to join the email GoogleGroup for our project. (When you request to join our GoogleGroup, please be sure to include your Wiki ID). You will find more information on the GoogleGroup.
We thank you for all you do to help the Profile Improvement Project and WikiTree. The Project’s mission is to:
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Sincerely,
Debi Hoag and Robin Shaules Co-Leaders, Profile Improvement Project
Thank you so much for the post and for the opportunity to be a part of the PIP Project 💚 I think the project is absolutely wonderful
My absolute pleasure, and thanks for the tip on variations of Cormac/k - when you add on the possibility of Mc/Mac, Cormic/k and all other versions it just gets crazy LOL - I sometimes think I'll never find my branches on that side...what I do know is that my direct ancestor left Scotland for South Africa in 1891 and have never found any siblings. I have some cousins would recently moved to Alaska!
I have learned a great deal and am really grateful for this early opportunity to learn the ropes and not pick up any bad habits - as I already have far too many of them!
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I know how you feel, it can be a lot to take in when you're new to the site. The best thing is to take it slow, work on one family unit at at time. Explore the site, test everything out....you can't break it, and anything can can be undone (except merges, so always research and collaborate through any issues on those). Don't be shy, there are tons of people here willing to help if you just let them know you need it - the G2G is a super place to find them. I'm always here for you too, if you send me a private message I'll be able to respond via email, then you'll be able to email me anytime. You're never alone here 🦋
I think you've come to exactly where you want to be to accomplish this task. I never realised it at the time, but that was what I needed too when I first started out with genealogy. I created files...many of them, and filled them with notes of all the people in my tree, and other peoples tree's too so that I could compare branches to see if there were any matches. I still have those files today, I don't have the heart to throw all that work out. But now that I have started using WikiTree more I realised that I don't need those files anymore. Here at WikiTree I can link to any other webpages on the internet, I can cite sources that are in precious Family Bibles that great aunts hold onto dearly, I can upload treasured photo's or transcribe letters (adding photo's of them too). I don't have to worry about mould or fishmoths or sun fading..it's lovely!
Here's some links that I hope will prove handy for you:
For privacy information see this page here: Privacy
I hope this helps!
Kindest regards, Pam
And then, coming to your page I can see lots of encouragement you give and helpful suggestions, like uploading documents and so on. So I just wanted to add my thanks to the pile :>) Laura James Sykes
Carol J
I'm so glad that you decided to upgrade and join us here at WikiTree!
Both Family Tree Maker and Ancestry offer the option to download a gedcom, which you can upload here at WikiTree. But you will still need to do the gedcompare process where you will need to match or reject each profile to other possible matches of profiles already on WikiTree.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any way to copy WikiTree profiles info over to Family Tree Maker. I usually find opening each site on a separate browser tab and then copying and pasting works quite well.
There is an app called WikiTree Tool Kit which I think might be what you're looking for. If that doesn't help then perhaps searching for, or asking your question in our G2G chat forum will yield more results?
I hope this helps, and have fun!
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I've just 'found' your reply, sorry. Even though Genealogist A. Scott Atkinson tried to prepare his class, inspire us to step up to WikiTree, assure us that this step was our best place to store our proven work, I admit to being overwhelmed. Thank you for that now valued 'Greeting.' I'm grateful for each and every helping hand! And I'm intrigued at your comments/request/command to have your work, at your demise, bequeathed to those named others......my goodness.....I had no thought to what happens to submissions upon the passing of the contributor. Where is that guidance? I didn't see anything of that ilk in the Tutorials.
WikiTree is known for having quite a learning curve, so don't feel alone there. I'm here for you any time (just send me a private message and I'll get back to you as soon as I can), there really are no silly questions!
That bit at the bottom of my bio is called an "Advance Directive" - you can read more about those here
There are loads of really great guides/help pages. They can be found in the little menu at the top right under the title "help" which can be found by hovering your mouse over that word. Then a drop down list appears where you can click on "help index" or "help category" depending on which layout you prefer.
Welcome to WikiTree Carol, I hope you enjoy the site as much as I do!
I'm glad that you made it back, and I'm here if you need me. Don't be shy to explore as much as you can..there is a lot here. I 💚 that you love accuracy as much as I do LOL
Congrats on the Super Star Badge!
You all are just too awesome!
Bye, greetings from Eva
Neil
Have a super day!
Marion
Have a lovely evening/morning.
Thanks, Bob
I just wanted to say thank you for welcoming Adam Mayer. He said he doesn't know much about his family - boy, is he about to become very enlightened! He just sent me a trusted list request for his grandpa, whose profile - along with several ancestors, siblings, cousins and all their spouses - was added by Eddie King while he was working on his own special project with the Holocaust project - the Ritchie Boys. Adam's grandpa is one of these incredible people! Of course, I immediately made Adam manager of his grandpa and all the rest of his family and will reach out to offer him help with these profiles.
My absolute pleasure, I love greeting and am lucky to get the opportunity to do so. I'm really glad that I got to welcome Adam. I'm so excited that he gets to learn so much about his family, and what a family it is! He's going to be very proud...how lovely!
And thank you so much for being a part of that journey for him, for adding him as manager to those profiles, and especially for offering to help him. Stories like these are what makes it all so wonderful, and you have plastered a smile not only on Adams face, but on my own too.
Have a beautiful day, and I hope we chat again soon.
There are some special search sources, for Texas historical figures, which I did use for the Alamo Defenders and Signers of the Declaration of Independence. But they are only for historical figures. They would not yield results for current residents of Texas.
Mary
Have a lovely day.
Kindest regards, Pam