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1 1841 census of Eccleston in Prescot, Lancashire, piece 516-05
2 SECOND BOOK

1841 census of Eccleston in Prescot, Lancashire, piece 516-05

Part of 1841 census of St Helens.

Listed below are links to the profile of each head of household and each person not in the immediate nuclear family of the head of household; also notes about each person for whom a profile hasn't been made.

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Matthew Chorley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chorley-126

Ellen Chorley 25

not profiled - there is a possible match on WikiTree already

Edward Smith 20 M.S. Y

not profiled - not enough info

William Chorley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chorley-132

Ann Aspey 10 F.S. Y

not profiled - not enough info. Not a sister of William's wife, possibly a niece, but neither of the

two christenings found on Lancashire OPC matches a brother of his wife:

20 Aug 1826 Prescot St Mary's (Thomas Aspinall farmer of Eccleston & Rachel)

31 Oct 1830 Rainford Chapel (Henry Aspinwall farmer of Rainford & Ellen)

possible match 1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYX-845

Bartholomew Beesley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beesley-528

Thomas Green https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Green-40403

John Dickie https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dickie-1016

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Ann Dickie not profiled - no maiden name known

Joseph Lucas https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lucas-10778

Margaret Bassnett https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Edwardson-105

Samuel Appleton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Appleton-1460

James Ashton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ashton-3185

Peter Pendleton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pendleton-2583

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William Taylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Taylor-75206

Edward Taylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Taylor-75231

Peter Nelson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Nelson-24358

Thomas Lancaster https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lancaster-4654

George Barton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barton-9306

Peter Pendleton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pendleton-2617

Joseph Graham https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Graham-24067

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Peter Barlow https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barlow-4825

Stephen Houghton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Houghton-2284

Peter Sephton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sephton-255

Henry Cross https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cross-10308

Thomas Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-6929

William Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-6936

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Henry Glover https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glover-7626

William Carr https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carr-14254

Elizabeth Leyland 65 F.S Y

not profiled, there is another Elizabeth Leyland aged 65 in Prescot in 1841 and not much to identify either.

No deaths for either in Prescot 1841-1851; one in Parr in 1861

Haven't checked St Helens spreadsheets for 1851-61 for her, or freeCen.

James Robinson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Robinson-45359

John Robinson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Robinson-45361

James Beesley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beesley-548

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Elizabeth Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-6970

Joseph Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-6969

John Gore https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gore-3183

John Shaw https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shaw-22259

Thomas Shaw https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shaw-22260

Thomas Rigby 20 Sail cloath Weaver Y

not profiled, not enough information to identify without an exact match on occupation, which I haven't found so far.

James Hunter https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hunter-19171

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William Leyland https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Leyland-280

John Steward 20 Joiner Y

not profiled, not found in other censuses positively (?shipwright in 1861)

John Saggerson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Saggerson-1

Ann Dutton 15 Ind Y

not profiled, couldn't find a good match for these two

William Do 12 Cl Y

not profiled, couldn't find a good match for these two

Mary Pownal https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lough-659

Margaret Kneal 30 F.S. N

not profiled because LNAB uncertain (could have been a widow)

probably from the Isle of Man, where her employer owned property and the surname Kneal is found.

Possible match (the attached FS tree may contain errors -

she had a Kermode daughter born in 1844 but doesn't marry Kermode till 1850).

Thomas Brownbill https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brownbill-83

Ann Ellis 60 Ind Y

not profiled, maiden name not known, not found 1851,

might have died third qtr 1841 Prescot aged 70 but there was a burial matching the d reg in Garston, address Oglitey, Speke which is in Prescot.

(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPRH-C2C, image link https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996Y-4SFH?i=58)

She could have moved from Eccleston to Speke between the census and her death, but given the

age discrepancy there's a reasonable likelihood these are two different women even though only

one is showing on FS in 1841.

No wills on NA for Ellises in Prescot.

1841 on FS https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ2G-G3W

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Elizabeth Glover 14 F.S. Y

not profiled, several possible baptisms, none a perfect match

James Galloway https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Galloway-4193

Mary Rigby 14 F.S. Y

not profiled, multiple possible matches

Joseph Yates

Margaret Yates

not profiled, maiden name not known

Peter Makin

not profiled, couldn't identify in other records

Ann Jackson

William Grapes

not profiled, couldn't identify reliably in other records.

John Finney https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Finney-643

Elizabeth Finney

not profiled, identity uncertain, may be mother of Elizabeth Jones 2 doors on and sister of Mary Jones if that helps

William Gilderson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gilderson-9

Mary Jones 25 Shop K Y

not profiled, couldn't identify reliably. May be a relative of Elizabeth Finney above.

Might have married Thomas Anderton in 1847 (PRO) and had no kids by 1851

Elizabeth Jones 3 Y

Not profiled. Possible daughter or niece of Elizabeth Finney

Grace Lloyd https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lloyd-9445

James Appleton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Appleton-1524

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Thomas Pye https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pye-1331

James Pye https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pye-1338

Ellen Allen https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Allen-51445

John Jarvis https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jarvis-5226

Adam Glover https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glover-7732

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Thomas Prescot https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Prescott-2655

Thomas Hewitt https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hewitt-5902

William Arnold https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Arnold-17982

William Young https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Young-46044

Elizabeth Clarke https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Young-46043

Mary Banks https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Miller-86888

William Dagnall https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dagnall-107

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John Prescot https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Prescot-57

Ellen Chorley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chorley-142

Margaret Franks https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Franks-3204

James Davies https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Davies-12970

William Prescot https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Prescot-58

John Meadows https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Meadows-3919

William Balmer https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Balmer-545

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John Roby https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Roby-912

Mary Bailey 20 F.S Y

not profiled, identity uncertain

Martha Hewitt https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wainwright-1708

Benjamin Johnson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnson-108193

Robert Johnson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnson-108194

Judith Hughes https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hughes-24477

Sarah Hewitt https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnson-108190

Jane Southern 50 Y

profile not created, insufficient information

No deaths in Prescot to 1851

?? 1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5X-LWP

Ellen Southern 12 Y

profile not created

May have married Peter Ball 30 Sep 1850 All Saints Church Wigan (Lancashire OPC)

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5X-LWP

b. reg. last qtr 1850 Wigan - Fanny Ball, mother Southern

1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M71B-3JJ

Henry Stott https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stott-1027

William Scott https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Scott-44656

Henry Stanley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stanley-4477

William Hardman https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hardman-2544

Thomas Clarke

profile not created, no obvious match 1851-61

Thomas Sephton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sephton-257

John Cross https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cross-10800

Mary Cross

not profiled - surname uncertain

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Henry Cross https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cross-10805

Margaret Adamson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Seddon-14610

Joseph Watson 60 Under looker Y

not profiled, couldn't find in other records

John Rainford 20 Coal m Y https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rainford-293

Elizabeth Do 15 Y

not profiled, couldn't find enough info

Margaret Whitaker 10 Y

not profiled, couldn't find a unique match in other records

Thomas Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-7063

Thomas Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-7064

William Naylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naylor-2972

Ellen Winstanley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jackson-44100

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Alfred Stone https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stone-21328

John Savage https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Savage-8173

Mary Steward 2 Y

couldn't identify her in other records.

A James and Mary Steward in Liverpool (556-20 folio 12) could conceivably be her parents.

There was a Maria Steward birth registration in liverpool in 1838, or a Mary Stewart in 1839.

Robert Charnock https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Charnock-289

Thomas Gore https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gore-3239

John Byron https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Byron-460

Elizabeth Sephton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sephton-12

Job Preston https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Preston-7936

William Ford https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ford-16163

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Joseph Orford https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Orford-202

Charles Witcherley https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wycherley-108

Richard Cross https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cross-10843

Jonathan Case https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Case-6454

Richard Harnitt [Arnold] https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Arnold-18074

John Traverse https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Travers-990

John Ainsworth https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ainsworth-1918

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James Ainsworth https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ainsworth-1921

William Carlow https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carlow-123

George Latham https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Latham-3302

John Vose https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vose-910

Margaret Preston https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Blakeledge-2

Ellen Birch https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Birch-3230

John Higham 60 Ag Lab Y

not profiled as difficult to match reliably to other records. No 1851 for him or wife, but no death in Prescot.

Probably married Mary Woodward 1816 (farmer, widower) and had Mary 1817 (Rainhill, lab) and William 1820 (Rainhill, lab)

No sign of Wm in census; Mary poss m Peter Ratcliff 1836, not found in census

Edward Copple https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Copple-260

Ann Copple 75 Ind Y

not profiled, maiden name uncertain.

George Willcock 15 Watch m ap Y

not profiled, surname a little uncertain and no match found in other records.

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Peter Platt https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Platt-3344

William Rowson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rowson-197

Thomas Atherton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Atherton-1879

Georgina Ba[st]hwell 20 Dress maker Y

not profiled, no match in other records

Thomas Preston https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Preston-7954

Richard Gerrard https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gerrard-1170

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Ellen Arnold 15 F.S. Y

not profiled, couldn't easily identify with certainty, there were several marriages of Ellen Arnolds in the next decade in the surrounding area

James Cook https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cook-38478

Elizabeth Ashcroft https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ashcroft-917

James Marsh https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marsh-10589

Henery Rushton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rushton-1042

William Napper https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Napper-529

John Clitherow https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Clitherow-37

SECOND BOOK

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John Melling https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Melling-323

Alice Melling

not profiled, maiden name uncertain though likely to be Webster

Charles Warren https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warren-19139

John Marland https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marland-263

John Ellison https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ellison-3977

Willm Clark 49 Vat Maker Y

not profiled, not matched in other records

Thos Forter 25 Weelwright N

not profiled, not matched in other records

Closest match Thomas Foster b 1822 Liverpool (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TY-PHR),

m. 9 Feb 1851 Christ Church Everton to Martha Sumner (both full, ba sp, wheelwright, LanOPC)

but age and birthplace both off (and surname but Forter is weird anyhow, probably either Foster or Forster)

Mary Dagnall https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marcleton-2

Ann Grimshaw https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dagnall-119

James Robinson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Robinson-46482

Elizabeth Robinson https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Robinson-46481

Thomas Bushby 15 Turner in Mettle I

not profiled, not matched in other records in England

John Long 15 Mecanic I

not profiled, not matched in other records in England

George Taylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Taylor-78205

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George Millett https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Millet-754

Richard Ward https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ward-28874

Eliza Ward https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ward-34946

Henry Houghton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Houghton-3766

Ellen Woolrich https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Woolrich-82

William Ford https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ford-17670

John Ward https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ward-34954

Charles Fildes https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fildes-88

Peter Lyon https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lyon-7114

Peter Anders https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Anders-1255

John Forshaw https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forshaw-400

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James Forshaw 21 Wheel Wright Ap Y

not profiled, not certain of matches in other records.

Possible death first qtr 1847 aged 29 but age a couple of years off

Only certain age match born Huyton, lived in Australia for a while before returning to Lancashire around 1869:

1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-R6KH

1891 "General Register Office: 1891 Census Returns database, FreeCEN (https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/608bf0b0f4040bda1ae6838f : viewed 18 Jul 2021), James FORSHAW, Ansdells Villa Rd, Lancashire, England; from 1891 "England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images; citing The National Archives RG 12/3015, Folio 33, Page 25, Schedule 141, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

No wheelwrights found.

Thos Barron 18 Wheel Wright Ap Y

not profiled, not certain of matches.

possibly ag lab in 1851, age 2 years off: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYX-CDZ

Ann Monks 17 Y F.S. Y

not profiled, not certain of matches.

May have married John Greenough 22 Nov 1846 Farnworth Chapel (Lancashire OPC)

William Naylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naylor-2998

Joseph Naylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naylor-2693

Joseph Cross 55 School master N

not profiled, couldn't match in other records

Ann Do 65 Y

not profiled, couldn't match in other records

Elizabeth Taylor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Taylor-78362

John Springfellow https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stringfellow-748

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Sarah Tickle

Thomas Tickle

John Tinsley

Mary Travers

not profiled, too difficult to identify currently.

only one Mary Travers in 1841 in Prescot of this age, but 3 Mary Traverses and 1 Mary Travis.

Identity therefore somewhat uncertain. One Traverse baptism (identifiable as one of the 3 Mary Traverses),

one Travers baptism (dau of John Travers potter of Sutton & Mary; with her parents in Sutton in 1841).

Other baptisms in same family spelled Traverse and Travis, so spelling not a useful distinguishing tool.

Both girls from baptisms still with parents by 1851.

William Lewis 62 Independent N

not profiled:

Nut Grove

Willm Lewis 62 Independent N

Margaret Do 62 Y

Margaret Lewis 62 Y

not profiled

d. reg. second quarter 1844 Prescot district aged 65

No death for William in Prescot 1841-1851 but not found in 1851 census;

perhaps returned to where he came from after Margaret's death.

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James Prescott 26 Coal Miner Y (in Thatto Heath)

No match in other records, particularly marriages and 1851 census

Mary Do 20 Y

No match in other records, particularly marriages and 1851 census

Mary Traverse 70 Y

Not profiled as maiden name uncertain.

More than one possible marriage, difficult to sort kids' christenings by parents.

d. reg. Prescot Dec q 1847 aged 81 (b. abt. 1766)

b. abt 1767-71(1841)

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Richard Porter 3 N

Not profiled, identity uncertain

Allice Jones 20 Y

Not profiled as maiden name uncertain.

James Robinson 15 Y

Not profiled, no certain match in other records

folio 22 page 7

Mary Edwards 65 N

Not profiled because maiden name uncertain. Possibly Easto - see notes on Richard's profile.

Thos Easto

James Stock

Ellen Birkey

Not profiled - no match in other records

Surname perhaps Birket or Burke?

folio 23 page 8

Esther Rooke 1 N

Not profiled - no match in other records

Surname possibly should be Rourke - see notes on profile of Surman-241.

folio 23 page 9

Ellen Smith

Not profiled; maiden name/marriage uncertain

Mary Alcock

Sarah Naylor

Elizabeth Hall 45 Ind N

Not profiled; maiden name/marriage uncertain. Husband John Hall.

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Henry Smith 45 Ag Lab Y

No profile made, because it would be hard for people to tell if the resulting profile was a match

or not. However he was buried 7 Apr 1850 at Prescot St Mary's aged 58, abode Eccleston.

Mary Smith 45 Y

No profile made, maiden name uncertain.

Probable matches in census: 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881

Her being with the family of Alexander McConnell and Margaret (Leyland) McConnell in the

censuses of 1851 and 1861 might indicate a family connection, but no obvious one found.

Margaret's parents were John Leyland and Margaret (Woodward) Leyland;

no Henry Smith - Mary (Leyland/Woodward) marriages found.

Elizabeth Pinnington 60 F.S. Y

Not profiled, but mother-in-law of John Laurence

death reg. first quarter 1846 Prescot aged 67

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John Briars

Mary Briars

Thos Parsonage 3 months Y

Not profiled; probably nephew of Mary (Parsonage) Briars if age correct

See notes on her profile.

Ann Rimmer 45 Y

No profile made, maiden name uncertain - see William's profile for notes.

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Joseph Parkins

Sarah An Parkins

George Parkins

Mary Atherton 11 F.S. Y

Not profiled yet, hoping identifying her will be easier once more other work done

Not the daughter of John and Alice chr 30 May 1830 Prescot St Mary's

(she's with her parents in 1841)

The only other christening listed on Lancashire OPC in St Helens area within 2 years is

11 Sep 1831 Farnworth near Prescot (James & Ann, Cuerdley, shoemaker)

But there are others in Liverpool and could be other Marys not listed there

Cuerdley Mary in 1851 (possibly) and 1861 and 1901

Margaret Millington 45 Y

Not profiled, maiden name uncertain

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Samuel (Jun) Fillingham

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Elizabeth Harrison 65 Y

Not profiled, identity unknown

Buried 25 May 1848 Prescot St Mary's aged 69, abode Prescot

No very plausible marriages of an Elizabeth Tatlock or Ashton to a Harrison found

but she could be just a lodger not related to the family she's with

Surname ending a bit unclear on 1841 census

Thos Barton 30 Stone Getter? Y

Not profiled, no clear match in other records

The likeliest looking two matches in 1851 are both a bit older than they should be and

both match other 1841 records.

One, a grocer born in Eccleston in 1807

1851, 1841 piece 515-04 folio 16 p 24

The other, a hawker born in Prescot in 1806

1851, 1841

No burials or marriages listed for him in Prescot between 1841 and 1851 on Lancashire OPC

No marriage registrations for him in Prescot district 1841-1851

The only death registration in Prescot district 1841-51 is aged 29 in 1845,

so could be him if the 1841 age is actually 20 (meaning 24); but it looks like 30

James Mills

Thos Tither

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Joseph Taylor 56 Labourer Y

Death reg probably 2nd qtr 1843 Prescot aged 58

No burial record found

Sarah Taylor 60 N

Death reg probably last qtr 1846 Prescot aged 66

No burial record found

George Taylor 30 Labourer Y

No convincing baptism match found

No convincing match in 1851-61 in St Helens

possible marriage 20 Apr 1851 to Mary Poval but his father was a wheelwright, so probably not

(there was another Joseph Taylor, a wheelwright, in Huyton 1851 1861 wife Mary)

No deaths in Prescot district 1841-51

Henry Taylor 20 Labourer Y

No convincing baptism match found

probably not the Henry Taylor living in Frazier St Parr in 1851 with wife Mary & son Thomas -

Henry Taylor m Mary Taylor 1840 Winwick, his father John Taylor hers Isaac Taylor

No other good matches for Henry in St Helens in 1851

No deaths in Prescot district 1841-51

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Elizabeth Garner

not profiled - maiden name unknown

born abt 1771 Eccleston - see son John's profile for censuses of 1841 & 1851 and death

Only possible marriage found was in Barthomey Cheshire (image)

which seems a bit unlikely given all other records of Elizabeth are in Eccleston

John Garner

James Piggot

Mary Piggot

Henry Piggot

not profiled - no baptism record, so age uncertain

possible burial 17 Aug 1848 St Helens chapel aged 20 abode St Helens image

folio 28 page 18

Esther Steevans

John Hill 15 Y

Not profiled. There were about 5 matches in St Helens and its hinterland in 1851

The one living in Eccleston in 1851, married to Mary Ann Marsh,

probably is with his parents in 1841 though he's their only child with an obvious baptism record

might be easier to identify once more work has been done on more of the other John Hills

Willm Palmer

Not profiled - identity uncertain.

Possibly a brother or nephew of Richard Palmer - no baptism found for either of them.

Or could be his illegitimate son and have reverted to his mother's surname in later censuses.

No matching death registrations Prescot 1841-1851.

No sign of him as William Palmer in censuses of 1851-61.

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John Lawson 20 Labourer Y

Not profiled. There are several possible matches in other records.

One christening - John Lowson chr 7 Apr 1822 St Helens Chapel (William collier of Hardshaigh & Helen)

A labourer in 1851 born 1819 Cuerdley & living in Parr;

he married Margaret (Laurenson) Middlehurst on 14 Jul 1844, his father Robert Lawson, flatman

A collier in 1861 born St Helens, married to Alice from Culcheth.

John Lawson married Alice Parker on 8 Jun 1851 (after the census) at Christ Church, Eccleston, son of Francis Lawson, Collier

Jane White

Widow of Joseph White, and also his first cousin.

Profile not made for Jane because she may or may not be Jane Garner (bef.1808-).

Notes on Joseph White's profile.

George White

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Jane Seddon 2 months Y

Not profiled - identity uncertain (see 1841 census description in bio of Edward Seddon)

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Thos Eaton

Elizabeth Eaton

Henry Eaton

Not profiled because LNAB uncertain - he might have been illegitimate.

See notes on profile of his father

Catherine Eaton

Mary Eaton

Samuel Eaton

Samuel Morris

Not profiled because identity uncertain. Might have been illegitimate son of Elizabeth (Morris) Eaton, or brother or nephew.

Mary Macarey 12 (Ireland)

Not profiled, no match in other records

FamilySearch has a few Macarey and Macureys, but Macevoy is also a possibility if mistranscribed

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William Fishwick

Ellen Molynuex

Elizabeth Lyon 15 F.S. Y

Not profiled yet, several possible matches

There are 4 Elizabeth Lyons born between 1817 and 1826 in Prescot in 1841

The daughter of Edward and Margaret is with her parents in 1841

The daughter of Wiliam & Mary is single & with her parents in 1851 (haven't looked for them in 1841 yet)

There is also a christening for a daughter of James & Martha

Not clear who the fourth is, but there were other christenings in nearby towns

Will probably be easier to identify when more work has been done in general

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John Grice 25 Labourer Y

Not profiled - no plausible match in censuses of E/W from 1851 onwards

(there's one the right age in 1851 who's a labourer, but he married in 1835 and was with

his wife & children in 1841)

No deaths Prescot 1841-51

No baptisms found in Prescot

John Anderson 11 Watchm Ap Scotland

Not profiled - no match in Eccleston in later censuses,

no match found in other areas who was a watchmaker

no deaths Prescot 1841-51

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Ellen Harrison 60 Scotland

Not profiled - probably mother of James and his brother Andrew

Maiden name not known

Willm Fishwick

Thos Dennett 60 Y

Not profiled - there are a few possible matches in baptisms, deaths, 1851 census

and it's not clear which of these are him. Also easy to confuse with Bennett if poorly written.

George Yates

Elizabeth Yates 55 Y

Not profiled - maiden name uncertain

Margaret Pilkerton 40 F.S. Y

surname probably Pilkington

marital status uncertain - probably keeping house for Henry Fildes in Windle in 1851 & 1871 & in 1861 recorded as his aunt

she was probably Henry's wife Martha's aunt

Henry Files m Martha Pilkington 1840 Rainford her father Joseph Pilkington, Collier

Henry chr 29 Sep 1811 Rainford (George, Anne of Windle)

Martha Fildes d Jun q 1850 Prescot aged 34, no baptism found

No obvious match for a Margaret Pilkington the right age in baptisms either

John Monks 25 Ag Lab ?

Not profiled - two possible matches

one ag lab born Westhoughton

one carter born Newbrough Lanc

John Callon

Tabetha Callon

Sarah Callon

folio 32 page 26

Elizabeth Smith 20 Ind Y

Not profiled, identity uncertain - only match in Eccleston in 1851 is married

folio 38 page 1

Margaret Beesley 70 F.S. Y

Not profiled. Probable match in 1851 which has no other match in 1841.

In 1851 she is the mother-in-law of Robert Huyton, whose wife is Mary

She was bur 11 Nov 1851 at Rainford Chapel aged 83 (abode Scarisbrick)

Robert Huyton m. Mary Birch 16 Jun 1828 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk

Michael Beesley is one of the witnesses

Michael Beesley labourer m. Margaret Birch widow 9 Jan 1815 St Nicholas, Liverpool

Mary Huyton's maiden name confirmed as Birch by one of the children's birth registrations

No baptism found for Mary Birch born about 1805 Rainford with mother Margaret

Robert Huyton d reg Dec q 1859 Ormskirk aged 59

Mary still a widow in 1861

Mary still a widow in 1871:

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No marriage at all found for a Mary Huyton with father's surname Birch

More than one possible marriage of a Birch to a Margaret followed by death of the Birch within

10 years of 1815 when Margaret remarried

Most promising is Richard Birch (m. Margaret Smith 19 Aug 1793 All Saints, Wigan) together with

Richard Birch bur. 17 Dec 1812 All Saints, Rainford (farmer of Rainford)

Another possibility is that Mary was Margaret's stepdaughter, and Margaret married her father

after Mary's birth in about 1805.

There were 3 Margarets baptisms in 1769 in Rainford, surnames Pickavance, Barrow & Hurst, and a Birchall in 1768 (protestant dissenters).

folio 39 page 2

Henry Swift 20 M.S. Y

Not profiled - four possible matches in 1851, one of which can be eliminated as having an

obvious 1841 match. May be easier to identify when more work on the others has been done

John Forber

Grace Forber

folio 39 page 3

Alice Bordman 20 F.S. Y

Probably easier to identify from a later census or marriage

Peter Robinson

Sarah Robinson

Mary Kirkham

Shusane Allen

Not to be confused with Susanna (Allen) Yates/Hewitt (ca 1822-1849), who's with her parents in 1841

not identified in other records, no profile made

Ann Eden 15 F.S. Y

if her age is accurate, there is only one match in baptisms, daughter of Peter and Alice.

Haven't found them in 1841, there is a Peter and Alice Eden in N in M but with daughter Mary

who doesn't match baptism list for this family (and in 1851).

May be easier when more work has been done

Peter Laylay

folio 40 page 4

Mry Laylay 70 Y

Not profiled - maiden name uncertain.

Most likely marriage 3 Jan 1803 Rainford to John White (nailor), because son William a nail maker

No baptism found for their one known son William (b 1807 Windle) but there was a William White son of John (collier of Windle) born in 1803 & christened at St Helens Chapel, if he was consistently wrong by 4-5 years about his age in records

William & Mary in 1851 with two

young Ralph Whites, one probably William's son, the other perhaps a nephew or grandson

William not found 1861

Mary Leyland d Mar q 1855 Prescot aged 88

Mary Robinson 14 FS Y

Not profiled yet, probably easier to identify once more work is done generally

John Hulm 30 Publickan Y

Not profiled, no match found in other censuses or death registrations 1841-51 or marriages -

possible surname error??

Ester Hulm 30 Y

as John above

Thomas Black 20 MS Y

Not profiled, no obvious match in 1851

James Buckly 35 Glass Blower Y

Family not profiled - no marriage found for parents, no birth registrations, no obvious match in

other censuses, no deaths Prescot 1841-51 (the death reg for Elizabeth Buckley in Dec q 1842

is Elizabeth (Hart) Buckley). Not James Buckley m. Elizabeth Taylor 1834

(he's a farmer in the marriage bond).

Betsey do 25 Y

Not profiled, see above

Mary do 7 Y

Not profiled, see above

Alice do 5 Y

Not profiled, see above

William do 3 Y

Not profiled, see above

Jane do 7 months Y /

Not profiled, see above

John Belles

Hanna Belles

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Ann Parr 15 FS Y

not profiled, will probably be easier to identify later

Thomas Shaw 20 Book Seller N

No clear match found in other records

Catharn Cary 15 FS Ireland

not profiled, will probably be easier to identify later

William Files

Hannah Files

William Files

folio 41 page 7

Mary Harison 85 FS Y

not profiled - maiden name uncertain. Probably mother of Hannah Files above but not certain.

d reg Dec q 1842 aged 89

burial St Helens Chapel 7 Nov 1842 age 89 abode Eccleston, LanOPC

Margret Mary?_end 25 FS Y

Not identified, name uncertain

folio 42 page 8

Ellen Forstaine? 75 Widow (crossed out) Y

Not profiled - identity uncertain. Surname perhaps Forster or Forshaw, miscopied?

Thomas Pery 25 Butcher N

Not matched in other records, no profile made

Ann Pery 25 N

Not matched in other records, no profile made

William Pery 3 N

Not matched in other records, no profile made

Jane Daues/Danes/Davies 15 FS Y

Not profiled because name uncertain, might turn up later

Ann Smith

Not profiled - birthplace and exact age uncertain

Jane Smith

Edward Jones 20 Police Constable N

No good match found (if police constable) in local area, too many matches nationally

to check occupations

Ann do 25 N

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John Beventon/Bevington/Benington? 25 Miller N

No good match found for family

Ellen do 20 N

Thomas do 5 mons Y

Joseph Doud 50 Taylor Y

Other possible surname readings Danel, Dauel, Davel

No match found with any of these in 1851 for Joseph or Mary

No deaths for Joseph or Mary in Prescot as Doud/Dowd

Mary Doud 40 Y

Betty Cook 60 Y

Not profiled - maiden name uncertain. Lodger in 1851, folio 428 schedule 139.

Not found 1861.

Probably buried 4 May 1859 Christ Church Eccleston aged 80 abode Whiston (LanOPC)

No grave photo on FindAGrave, which has good coverage of Christ Church

folio 43 page 10

Joseph Rolison 15 Lab Y

Not profiled - not matched in other records

Edward Houghton 70 Independent Y

Not matched in other records, not profiled

Betsey Cheetam 15 F.S. Y

Not profiled - probably easier to identify later when more work done

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Barnaby McCay 45 M.S. I

Not profiled - not matched in other records

folio 44 page 12

Thomas Parr

Ann Parr

Mary Draper

presumed mother of Ann Parr

not profiled - maiden name not known, marriage not found.

A possible niece or daughter Elizabeth (born Eccleston about 1831) with her in 1851

Two possible matches for Elizabeth in 1841: in Huyton or Liverpool.

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Margret Vose 6 months Y

Probably illegitimate daughter of Phoebe or Elizabeth Vose

(eldest sister Ellen was already married before Margaret born)

Could also be John's daughter and legitimate, but working as

a servant by the age of 12, so more likely born out of wedlock.

Found in 1861 and 1851 but not thereafter

No marriage or death found 1851-61.

Margaret Vose who married Charles Page is wrong age to be her

Alice Wilcock 70 Y

Not profiled; maiden name uncertain

Alice Riding 9 FS Y

Not profiled; not matched in other records

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Ellen Browne 20 FS Y

Probably sister of Ann Kilshey but couldn't find a matching pair

of baptisms for them on Lancashire OPC - haven't checked FS

folio 45 page 15

Wm Mulner 45 Coler Y

Family not matched in other records. Milner? Molyneux?

FS link

Mary do 45 Y

William do 11 Y

folio 46 page 16

Ellen Chapman

Not profiled - maiden name unknown

Sampson Waring

Margret Pilkington

Not profiled - possibly grandchild of James & Ellen, but not confirmed from records,

no Chapman-Pilkington marriage found

Catharn Pinnington 80 Pauper Y

Not profiled - maiden name unknown

buried 23 Nov 1850 All Saints, Rainford age 89 abode Rainford (LanOPC) - Catherine Pinnington

death reg Dec q 1850 Prescot PINNINGTON, CATHARINE aged 89

1841 census on FS

William Sephton

Thomas Sephton

Ellen Loyde

Faney Bibbey 15 F.S. Y

Not profiled because no match found in other records

Possibly forename is wrong, or she may have emigrated

possibly a younger sister or other relation of William Sephton's son James

(who is in the next household below)

Thomas [B?]ordwood 20 M.S. Y

Not profiled, not matched in other records

Mary James 20 F.S. Y

Not profiled, probably easier to do later

1841 census

Margret Parr 13 F.S. Y

Not profiled, probably easier to do later

1841 census

Only baptism match on LanOPC 9 Dec 1827 St Helens Chapel (John collier of Parr & Elizabeth)

family of the above baptism not found in 1841 - checked the two youngest children

youngest daur Ann b reg Sep q 1838 gives mmn Twist

John Parr m. Betty Twiss 19 Aug 1816 St Mary The Virgin, Prescot

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Mary Ashton 50 Y

Not profiled - maiden name not known

William Arnald

Mary Coldwel 20 F.S. Y

Elizabeth Coldwel 20 F.S. Y

If the above 2 are sisters and listed in descending age order, there are 2 matches in baptisms on Lancashire OPC -

(1)

Mary Ann and Elizabeth (chr. 9 Jul 1815 & 13 Jan 1819 at all Saints Wigan, dtrs of William farmer of Scholes/Aspull & Sarah)

Mary Ann m. James Battersby on 27 Dec 1845 at All Saints Wigan

Elizabeth m. James Ormrod 30 May 1849 at All Saints Wigan; both marriages by licence, so it's somewhat unlikely the girls worked as farm servants in 1841.

(2)

Mary (chr. 30 Jul 1820) & Elizabeth (19 Sep 1824) at St Chad's Kirkby, dtrs of William farmer of Kirkby & Ann.

Neither found in 1851 if single; no marriage for either found yet.

folio 47 page 18

Mary Prescot

Thomas Prescot

Mary Penney 20 F.S. Y

Not profiled

No marriages in local district 1841-51 (nearest is 1843 in Haigh, Wigan to James Atherton but

unlikely as she's 20 at marriage and of Haigh

No obvious match in 1851 but a couple of possibles in the hinterland

Thomas Griffin 25 M.S. Y

Not profiled

Possible match in 1851 if born Ireland

Faith Dickinson 35 F.S. Y

Eliz Hughes 40 FS Y

Not profiled - might be easier later

Anne? Midlon 25 FS Y

Not profiled - might be easier later

Mary Woods 20 FS Y

Not profiled - might be easier later

Anna Waterworth 13 FS Y

Joseph Hulm

Henry Taylor

Joseph do 3 Y

possibly brother of Henry, or a nephew - not tracked down yet

R A Davidson 25 FS Y

Not profiled yet

Jane Winstaley 25 FS Y

Not profiled yet

Julia Arnet 20 FS S

Possible marriage Stockton district 1850, 4 possible men

folio 47 page 19

Gorge Johnson 40 MS Y

Not profiled yet

Eliz Buchan 9 F.S. Y

not profiled

James Hewitt 12 M.S. Y

not profiled

Two matches in baptisms on LanOPC -

16 May 1830 Son of William Hewet & Margaret (Eccleston, glass maker); 1841, 1851

11 Mar 1827 Son of George Hewitt & Margaret (Whiston, watch maker); 1841, 1851

Both marry Margarets, marriages listed on LanOPC, neither matches this James

James Lyon 12 M.S. Y //

not profiled

Gorge Barnes

Alice Barnes 45 Y

not profiled - maiden name not known

A George Barnes married an Alice Kay in 1820 in Bolton, but he was a carter.

However it's possible this is them, since a Kay was living with them (working as a servant) in 1841

Thomas Barnes

Agabal Kay? 17 FS Y

Not profiled; name uncertain, no match found in other records

Henry Morris? 40 Carpenter J Y (Lane Ends, Eccleston)

Not profiled, not yet identified in other records

Elizebeth do 50 Y /

Not profiled, not yet identified in other records

John Cross 20 Collier Y //

Not profiled, not yet identified in other records

Might possibly be the same person as the 25-year-old John Cross 2 households later

folio 48 page 20

[ Elizbeth Cross]

folio 48 page 21

Mary Hutton 25 Y

Not profiled - Winstanley-449 is a possible but uncertain match.

Born in Prescot (1851,1861) or Eccleston (1871). Maiden name Winstanley.

folio 49 page 22

Mary Hunt

Henry Hunt

Thos Atharton

Thos Simkin 40 Ag Lab Y

Not profiled yet

His age is very clear in the census. There is no match in death regs in Prescot district, or

in the censuses of 1851-61, for this.

There is a burial 31 Jan 1853 at Prescot St Mary's of a 62-year-old Thomas Simkin (abode Whiston) listed on Lancashire OPC website

There is a corresponding 1851 census record for a married ag lab born in Lathom, in Kirkdale Gaol.

He was likely convicted on 21 Jun 1841, reported in the Liverpool Standard on June 22.

Crime was violently striking an old Irishman, penalty 50s fine or a month's imprisonment.

He was described as a stout fellow.

The Liverpool Standard, 22 Jul 1844 reported a prosecution by a Thomas Simkin aged about 40 of a Margaret Burrows for allegedly stealing his silver watch on 7 May after getting him drunk at a pub in Eccleston where he fell asleep. He had also, in spite of being invited there by Margaret and treated to beer by her, gone out and invited in another woman, Molly Bromilow. Margaret and Thomas had been keeping company for eighteen months, and he'd lent her the watch many times before. She claimed to have borrowed it. It seems his mother had tried to reclaim the watch for him this time and offended Margaret. Margaret was acquitted.

Another Thomas Simkins living in Town Green Lane, Aughton in 1841 - a farmer - a few miles from Lathom - is an alternative match for most of the above records.

Ellen Wortington 85 Pauper Y

Not profiled yet

probable death registration Ellen Worthington Dec q 1845 Prescot aged 96

Corresponding burial 26 Nov 1845 Prescot St Mary's aged 76, abode Prescot

Haven't double-checked Prescot St Mary's MIs

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